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> Sparrow (it's my name, not a nickname)

 

Well hi there, Sparrow - and fancy finding you

here, eh? LOL

 

> I grew up vegetarian, went SAD . . .

> and went back to vegetarian when I converted to

> a religion that . . . allow followers to eat

> anything half the year and vegan the other half

Sounds good to me :) especially since you're not

required to add in the meat, eggs and dairy!

> My husband is a staunchly devoted carnivore.

> This means I cook two

> completely different meals at the same time.

One hand in each pot, eh? I get quite a

picture!!! That must keep you busy, seriously -

that and, I assume, taking care of your dh.

> I know this list is about food

Oh that's okay - we go on about other matters too

*nodding wisely*

> I also have a request: I've just started doing

> low-impact aerobics . . .

> I am currently using Leslie Sansone's Walk Away

> the Pounds Express and

> like the pace and the fact that I can do

> everything in the tiny patch

> of floor I have available. . . . if anyone

knows

> other DVDs that fit the criteria (low-impact,

> interesting exercise

> leader, can be done in a very small space of

> floor) drop me an offlist

> e-mail to let me know the title? Thanks!

Actually I use Leslie Sansone too - but being 67

(not 40-Onederful) I started out this last year

with her walk aerobics for Older Adults and also

do the 2-mile walk aerobics for Over 40s (which

would include you, although I suspect you're too

advanced for that one).

Does anyone know of others that are similar, as

Sparrow requests? Let me know ON list if you have

any ideas - it's not off topic by any means!

Enjoy the group - sorry for the long post - this

is getting to be a habit :)

Lovely to have you here too!

Love and hugs, Pat (Co-Owner with Cindi)

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Vegetarian Spice:

Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming

Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada

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Walk Away the Pounds are good and I have several, but I can also highly

recommend Susan Powter¹s videos! Not the newer stuff she released in the

last couple of years, because those are confusing, poorly edited and hard to

follow. But if you can still get your hands on her videos from the 90s,

they are really very good! It¹s low-impact and yet you get a really good

workout. It involves a lot of stepping up and down on a step box, but I

don¹t find it boring at all, and if you don¹t have the box they have class

members showing you the workout without the box as well, so just follow

them. I love her workouts and feel great after them!

 

I actually just took stock of all the workout videos I have and couldn¹t

believe how many I have accumulated ‹ I have 21! A friend is going to help

me develop a month¹s rotation to develop a varied workout schedule as your

body quickly adjusts if you do the same thing all the time and you won¹t see

as much progress. Most of my workout videos can be modified to be low

impact, or will have one or two in the group demonstrating the low-impact

version. I love Turbo Jam and do those frequently. I follow the low-impact

lady when I need to and just modify some of the other moves to go easy on my

knees.

 

Anna

--

http://eatbreathemove.blogspot.com/

 

 

 

 

On 4/1/08 10:28 AM, " Patricia Sant " <drpatsant wrote:

>

> Actually I use Leslie Sansone too - but being 67

> (not 40-Onederful) I started out this last year

> with her walk aerobics for Older Adults and also

> do the 2-mile walk aerobics for Over 40s (which

> would include you, although I suspect you're too

> advanced for that one).

>

> Does anyone know of others that are similar, as

> Sparrow requests? Let me know ON list if you have

> any ideas - it's not off topic by any means!

>

 

 

 

 

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> Gee, I wonder how I found this group? *grin*

 

Heh heh heh

 

> I've been trying to think of ways to

> " sneak " a little more

> veggie into his diet, but most of the things he

> likes to eat aren't

> very sneakable.

 

Does he like homemade soups at all? If he does

and if he or you like to have the creamy pureed

kind, you can put all kinds of 'hidden'

vegetables in those - without them tasting

particularly of themselves or looking it. If he

likes split pea soup (yellow or green), for

example, it's easy to make a veggie version

without the @#% & and to add a little bit of

liquid smoke to counterfeit the same

flavour/aroma. Then you can add all kinds of

things to that - onions,carrots and celery being

already in it - such as zucchini, spinach, swiss

chard, green beans etc. (though not necessarily

all at once :) ) as long as you puree them along

with most of the split peas, etc. Or puree the

whole thing, of course. A sprinkle of faux bakon

bitz on top and voila! (Or for your dh, the real

thing if you like.) Just a thought. But you've

probably tried that kind of thing.

 

Borscht is another good soup - usually made with

me*t stock but veggie stock will do very nicely

and he'd be none the wiser. Some versions add

carrot to the beets and cabbage. I make one which

adds a cup of fresh cranberries to the beets and

beet greens (and I've found you can sub spinach

for the greens). All pureed, it's delightful -

and would pass muster with most omnivores.

 

My point is that by using soup as a conveyor of

veggies you can probably get away with not having

to make a separate soup for yourself :) unless of

course you want to.

 

> I have managed to convert him

> to fried rice with lots

> of veggies in it, though. . . . I've been able

> to get between a half

> pound to a pound of veggies in him that way . .

.. .

 

Good work! That's really impressive!

 

About the exercise videos:

I can't suggest much more since I'm limited as to

exercise routines, sadly, because of an old

injury (not a war wound, although I feel I went

through the wars with trying to get it treated

[ignore whine, please]) plus a little prob with

one of my hips that 'improves' itself with age

just to prove it can. So walk aerobics (plus

walking outside - a lot) plus a little yoga

adapted for us oldies is my limit. I so admire

anyone who can do proper workouts, no matter at

what level. Still, I improve - a year ago I was

still walking with a cane. Next year, no doubt,

I'll be leaping tall buildings in a single bound.

Or the year after.

 

> At least since it's low-impact I'm not thumping

> too loudly on my

> downstair's neighbor's ceiling. I hope. :-)

 

I agree with the importance of low-impact

exercises - neither of us can afford to mess up

our bones and joints - or upset the neighbours,

come to that.

 

I don't know Netflix - yet.

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

 

 

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Dr Patricia M. Sant

http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld

Vegetarian Spice:

Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming

Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada

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Sparrow:

> > I've been trying to think of ways to

> > " sneak " a little more

> > veggie into his diet, but most of the things he

> > likes to eat aren't

> > very sneakable.

 

Pat:

> Does he like homemade soups at all?

 

The only homemade soup I've gotten him to eat is chili and he won't do

it without ^% & *( in it and I haven't been able to slip an analog past

him - he can tell the difference (even though I learned that he can't

tell the difference between white rice and brown rice! Bad me for

sneaking brown rice on his plate. And he *swears* he hates brown rice!

LOL)

 

He likes soup from a can, particularly $%^ & chowder (I haven't figured

a good way to fake that one) and one with potatoes, cheese and bac*n.

He's mostly not a soup person, though. To imagine what he prefers to

eat, think of traditional summer picnics and fairgrounds. See why I

cringe? It's a dilemma, because I know he'd feel better if he'd eat

better but I don't push too hard because I don't want a lot of strife

in the home and because he once said, " if I have to live with all

these illnesses, I might as well at least get to eat something I like "

and since his health stuff isn't *directly* food-related (like mine) I

just let it go.

 

> If he

> likes split pea soup (yellow or green),

 

I made it for me and he visibly shuddered!

 

> Then you can add all kinds of

> things to that - onions,carrots and celery being

> already in it - such as zucchini, spinach, swiss

> chard, green beans etc.

 

Now I'm getting hungry! :-)

 

> Borscht is another good soup

 

Oh, man! He hates beets so much that I have to eat them in the kitchen

so he can't smell them. He's that way about brussels sprouts, too

(which I LOVE) and a few other foods that aren't springing immediately

to mind.

 

> - usually made with

> me*t stock but veggie stock will do very nicely

 

No way! I never knew borscht was made that way! I've never even had to

do substitutions, since the recipes I have gotten have all been from

Russian and Ukrainian ladies who make it during the winter fast (no

m*at for the forty days before Christmas in my church) and no one ever

told me they had modified it for fasting! I just assumed that's how it

was supposed to be.

 

> I make one which

> adds a cup of fresh cranberries to the beets and

> beet greens

 

Whoa! Cranberries in borscht? Is the recipe in the files? That sounds

intensely cool.

 

Sparrow:

> > I have managed to convert him

> > to fried rice with lots

> > of veggies in it, though. . . . I've been able

> > to get between a half

> > pound to a pound of veggies in him that way . .

 

Pat:

> Good work! That's really impressive!

 

Well, he's a big eater (at 6'8 " he has a lot of room to put it away)

so there's where it's easy to get lots of veggies in him if I find

something he likes to eat with them.

 

>

> So walk aerobics (plus

> walking outside - a lot) plus a little yoga

> adapted for us oldies is my limit.

 

Walk aerobics is my upper limit at this point. I used to walk outside

but since my feet injuries, a mile of walking means I can't do

anything the next day because my feet swell up and hurt too much to

use.

 

In my searching, I found another walk aerobic person named Debbie

Rocker. I'm going to try her videos and see if I like them. I'm happy

with Leslie Sansone but I'm afraid of burning myself out on one

workout and not wanting to exercise anymore.

 

> I so admire

> anyone who can do proper workouts, no matter at

> what level. Still, I improve - a year ago I was

> still walking with a cane. Next year, no doubt,

> I'll be leaping tall buildings in a single bound.

> Or the year after.

 

Or what was it " Letterman " (as narrated by Joan Rivers) could do?

 

Ah yes . . .

Faster than a rolling 'O'

Stronger than silent 'E'

Able to leap capital 'T' in a single bound!

It's a word, it's a plan...it's Letterman!

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Letterman)

 

I'm hoping to become stronger than a silent E. Or, more specifically,

I'm hoping that some of my ongoing foot problems improve when the

weight comes off. My podiatrist told me that losing weight is the

single most effective treatment for fasciitis and tendonitis of the

foot.

 

> I don't know Netflix - yet.

 

I don't know if they have it in Canada or not. It's a DVD renting

company that sends you DVDs in the mail and you keep them as long as

you want and then send them back in the pre-paid envelope and they

send you more. I think Blockbuster and a few other companies are doing

something similar.

 

I love it because it's cheaper than renting at the store, the

selection is better, and I don't have to go all the way across town to

the video store. Since we don't have a television feed (interference

from the mountains and cable TV is too expensive) it's our one

entertainment luxury. And, as it turns out, a great way to find

exercise videos!

 

Sparrow

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Hi Sparrow, I wrote:

> > Does he like homemade soups at all?

And you say:

> The only homemade soup I've gotten him to eat

> is chili and he won't do

> it without ^% & *( in it and I haven't been able

> to slip an analog past

> him - he can tell the difference . . .

> He likes soup from a can, particularly $%^ &

> chowder (I haven't figured

> a good way to fake that one) and one with

> potatoes, cheese and bac*n.

> He's mostly not a soup person, though.

 

Bad luck. It was worth a shot though :)

 

> I don't push too hard because I

> don't want a lot of strife

> in the home and because he once said, " if I

> have to live with all

> these illnesses, I might as well at least get

> to eat something I like "

 

Well, it's his body - but of course you have to

live with the consequences if he makes himself

sicker through poor eating habits :(

 

> and since his health stuff isn't *directly*

> food-related (like mine) I

> just let it go.

 

Probably very wise. Who wants to create problems

over food in the home - there's enough of that

going on outside the home with people not

understanding

or agreeing with the veg lifestyle without our

wilfully

asking for trouble, eh? I think he might come to

it in time

with your example. If not, then you've done what

you can.

 

> > If he

> > likes split pea soup (yellow or green),

>

> I made it for me and he visibly shuddered!

 

Yeah, I used to do that once too. Most guys love

split-pea soup though. Again, worth a shot.

 

> Oh, man! He hates beets so much that I have to

> eat them in the kitchen . . .

 

OK ok ok, I get his message loud and clear LOL I

surrender!!!

 

> > I make one [borscht] which

> > adds a cup of fresh cranberries to the beets

> and

> > beet greens

>

> Whoa! Cranberries in borscht? Is the recipe in

> the files?

 

Don't think so. I'll check it out and see and if

not I'll

add it in and post the info to the group :) It

isn't

trad borscht, but it is a nice beet soup and

tastes

wonderful - provided, of course, that you like

beets,

greens and cranberries!

 

Off to check on a sick pooch - poor little lass,

she's

always got something wrong *siggghhhh* and we

dote

on her something fierce. Another bout of tests

and

time at the vet hospital again today - it's a

wonder

she's so even-tempered. And of course, with her

out

of the house for a few hours, our other beagle

and

the cat go ballistic - or depressed - whichever

comes

first. Talk about dependence!

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

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Dr Patricia M. Sant

http://beanvegan.blogspot.com

Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld

Vegetarian Spice:

Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming

Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada

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Hi Sparrow ~

 

Welcome. I see you've jumped right in. Good! :-)

 

This list is definitely a place we can discuss exercise videos and options;

after all, most of here are looking to get healthier and that means both food

and exercise!

 

I'm glad my partner is also vegetarian; I can't imagine making 2 separate meals

each night. Good for you for taking care of both of your needs/desires.

 

Cindi

co-owner of group with Pat

 

Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote: Hi,

everybody!

 

> * your name or nickname

 

Sparrow (it's my name, not a nickname)

 

> * where you live (continent, region or city, whatever)

 

Southeastern Idaho, USA

 

> * your age group - teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s,

> 70s, 80s or more (congratulations!)?

 

I'll be turning 41 in March (I would say " Forty One-derful " but that

one's already taken by people who make food I don't eat. LOL)

 

> * Are you vegetarian (or vegan), still working at

> it, or still thinking about it? How long?

 

I grew up vegetarian, went SAD (standard American diet) as an adult,

and went back to vegetarian when I converted to a religion that

encourages it. (Vegetarian foods have always been my " comfort foods "

all along, though.) I am mostly-vegan. My religion (don't worry, I

don't proselytize!) has unusual food rules that allow followers to eat

anything half the year and vegan the other half (I have helped a lot

of SAD eaters who panic when the vegan times of year come around

because they're convinced that means three salads a day!) I changed

the anything half of the year to vegetarian for myself (though, in

practice, I usually eat about the same (vegan) all year.)

 

So I'm " mostly-vegan " but not opposed to an egg at Easter. :-)

 

> * Are you the only veggie or wannabe in your

> household? How many others?

 

My husband is a staunchly devoted carnivore. This means I cook two

completely different meals at the same time. Sometimes it gets pretty

hectic and crazy in the kitchen. (Some have told me I should make him

cook his own food, but he's disabled.)

 

> * Do you do the cooking or is it shared?

 

Just little ol' me. As I was saying to someone the other day: I do the

cooking, the cleaning, the shopping, take the garbage out . . . how

can I be out of shape? LOL

 

> WAIT! Anything else you would like to tell us? This is your

> Big Chance!!!

 

I know this list is about food and I am eager to learn and share, but

I also have a request: I've just started doing low-impact aerobics and

I like it (less stress on the cracked bones in my feet than my walking

program was -- it was the long walks with too much body weight that

cracked my foot bones in the first place) but I am completely

unfamiliar with any of the low-impact " gurus " out there (and don't get

a television feed.)

 

I am currently using Leslie Sansone's Walk Away the Pounds Express and

like the pace and the fact that I can do everything in the tiny patch

of floor I have available. I want to have more workouts available so I

don't get bored with the same one all the time so if anyone knows

other DVDs that fit the criteria (low-impact, interesting exercise

leader, can be done in a very small space of floor) drop me an offlist

e-mail to let me know the title? Thanks!

 

Sparrow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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