Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi I am not really new to this group, but I dont often post. I am a 51 year old female who is a vegetarian, I have been for 18 years, I had a 6 month period I ate meat last year because my companion is a meat eater and I tried to accomadate her. But couldn't keep with it because I just don't feel well when I eat animal flesh. I am allergic to the hormones and antobodics they inject them with, I can eat organic but choose to not. I guess I just am ment to be a non meat eater. My issue is I am the only Vegetarian I know! I have never known any others, my friends all eat meat but do adapt their recipies for my visits, but it is exaperating. I went to a fast food restaurant that has a " beef and mushroom " burger, I asked for the mushrooms and other stuff on the bun, they put a beef sause and mushrooms. I took it back and they were rude. But gave me my money back. So I stick with burger king for any fast food meals. I guess I just needed to vent, thanks for listening, Michelle from Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hi Michelle, yes it is difficult to eat out isn't it? The diet revolution is slow in its rolling program! Another problem with asking for non-meat options in fast and slow food outlets is in the matter of trust. Is that really a tofu burger or did they just say that to make life easy for themselves or as a joke. However, you'll get plenty of veggie protein by eating some nuts, say, from a store on the way home so don't worry too much about a balanced diet from one meal in town. That way you can enjoy, say a salad and fries (oops this is a slimming group - OK one fry). Be brave, you have veggie friends around the planet on the web. Geoff http://geoffnelder.com , " Michelle " <jasmine_mooneagle wrote: > > Hi I am not really new to this group, but I dont often post. I am a 51 > year old female who is a vegetarian, I have been for 18 years, I had a > 6 month period I ate meat last year because my companion is a meat > eater and I tried to accomadate her. But couldn't keep with it because > I just don't feel well when I eat animal flesh. I am allergic to the > hormones and antobodics they inject them with, I can eat organic but > choose to not. I guess I just am ment to be a non meat eater. My issue > is I am the only Vegetarian I know! I have never known any others, my > friends all eat meat but do adapt their recipies for my visits, but it > is exaperating. I went to a fast food restaurant that has a " beef and > mushroom " burger, I asked for the mushrooms and other stuff on the bun, > they put a beef sause and mushrooms. I took it back and they were rude. > But gave me my money back. So I stick with burger king for any fast > food meals. I guess I just needed to vent, thanks for listening, > Michelle from Alabama > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 My son and I can tell within a bite or two if it is not veggie, because we get sick. Hubby takes a few hours before it bothers him. Now that we are working on GFCF, fast food veggie burgers are out anyway . . . Pam On Jan 8, 2008 3:40 PM, Geoff Nelder <geoffnelder wrote: > > Hi Michelle, yes it is difficult to eat out isn't it? The diet > revolution is slow in its rolling program! > > Another problem with asking for non-meat options in fast and slow > food outlets is in the matter of trust. Is that really a tofu burger > or did they just say that to make life easy for themselves or as a > joke. However, you'll get plenty of veggie protein by eating some > nuts, say, from a store on the way home so don't worry too much about > a balanced diet from one meal in town. That way you can enjoy, say a > salad and fries (oops this is a slimming group - OK one fry). > > Be brave, you have veggie friends around the planet on the web. > > Geoff > http://geoffnelder.com > > , " Michelle " > > > <jasmine_mooneagle wrote: > > > > Hi I am not really new to this group, but I dont often post. I am a > 51 > > year old female who is a vegetarian, I have been for 18 years, I > had a > > 6 month period I ate meat last year because my companion is a meat > > eater and I tried to accomadate her. But couldn't keep with it > because > > I just don't feel well when I eat animal flesh. I am allergic to > the > > hormones and antobodics they inject them with, I can eat organic > but > > choose to not. I guess I just am ment to be a non meat eater. My > issue > > is I am the only Vegetarian I know! I have never known any others, > my > > friends all eat meat but do adapt their recipies for my visits, but > it > > is exaperating. I went to a fast food restaurant that has a " beef > and > > mushroom " burger, I asked for the mushrooms and other stuff on the > bun, > > they put a beef sause and mushrooms. I took it back and they were > rude. > > But gave me my money back. So I stick with burger king for any fast > > food meals. I guess I just needed to vent, thanks for listening, > > Michelle from Alabama > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thank you So much, and your right no fries! Nuts are a good source of protein. There are alot more organic foods available but I worry that the word " organic " is becoming so easy to put on packaging. I work for a store that does not have many " Organic " foods,( wal*mart) they are so expensive also. But McDonalds does have Newmons salids and a fruit and yogurt snack pack that is good. Have a great day:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 What is GFCF? I also get sick if I have hidden ingredients, by the afternoon if It's in the morning, I went to my sisters house she had made breakfast, I eat eggs so she had made the family eggs, toast fried potatoes and bacon. I ate the eggs and toast and a bit of potatoes. I got sick because she had put as she said, " just a spoonful " of bacon fat in the eggs and potatoes. By afternoon I was very much in the restroom for the rest of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Hello Michelle - and even if you're not new it's nice that you took the trouble to introduce yourself! (Maybe some other 'oldies' in the group could follow your lead? [hint hint] > I am a 51 > year old female who is a vegetarian, I have > been for 18 years That's a long time to be veggie. Good for you!!! > I had a > 6 month period I ate meat last year because my > companion is a meat > eater and I tried to accomadate her. But > couldn't keep with it . . . Bad luck, eh. Broke away from it and couldn't even enjoy it Well, never mind. You're back on track now and no doubt are feeling less sick and also happier about yourself. And with luck your companion understands. > My issue > is I am the only Vegetarian I know! I have > never known any others I know how that feels! We used to know vegetarians years ago - and I think they influenced us ('us' being me and my dh of many many years), but now they have either moved far away so that we lost track of them OR they have given away the veg lifestyle. I understand your frustration and anger over fast food places and similar restaurants. They don't often understand, and it it means that one has to settle for 'just a salad' until there's a chance to find Real Food. But I find that more and more poplular places are putting vegetarian items on their menus - that has to be a good thing! My dh and I don't eat egg or dairy either, so we are always on the lookout for places that will accommodate our needs. They are few and far between, but, as I say, increasing in number Vent all you want! We're just pleased that you feel you can do that here!!! And come back to post again soon, okay. It's really nice to 'chat' with you. Love and hugs, Pat ---- Dr Patricia M. Sant http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld Vegetarian Spice: Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada 'To cultivate kindness is a valuable part of the business of life.' Samuel Johnson (1709-1784) ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 I have been a vegetarian for over 30 years. I have the advantage that I live in northern California where there are many vegetarians, but I still run into problems when I go into certain kinds of restaurants. I primarily frequent Asian, Italian, and Mexican restaurants. I never go to fast food places, primarily because of the low wages paid to their staff [that is my personal ethical issue] plus the food is unhealthy and horrid. I live in an area with two colleges within about 25 miles of each other so there are many alternative lifestyles. My husband is not a vegetarian and I cook meat for him, but I never eat it. In 15 years he has learned to cook a lot more because there are some things I will not do, like barbecue. I have developed recipes that are basically vegetarian and then I will add meat like locally made sausages to a bean and vegetable soup before I serve it. Good luck. Kathleen Eureka CA My issue is I am the only Vegetarian I know! I have never known any others, my friends all eat meat but do adapt their recipies for my visits, but it is exaperating. I went to a fast food restaurant that has a " beef and mushroom " burger, I asked for the mushrooms and other stuff on the bun, they put a beef sause and mushrooms. I took it back and they were rude. But gave me my money back. So I stick with burger king for any fast food meals. I guess I just needed to vent, thanks for listening, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thank you Pat, It is nice to not feel so alone:) and to hear others stories too. Yes my companion understands, or at least bares with me. She used to cook all the time( for the 6 months I tried her diet), but now she says she can't because she doesn't know how.. It's ok. She eats some things I make, but not tofu! lol unless I disguise it as cheese( stuffed tofu and spinich shell noodles) she thought it was cheese till I told her the truth! Yes I feel much better now... It has been nice chatting, Hugs Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thank you Kathleen, I have friends who are tolerent and make food for me when I visit, but even they don't live where I live now, ( my job moved me) I feel like I am greasy when I cook meat, Silly I guess. I just don't care to cook it either. I Was born in SanFrancisco California and lived in California until I married a Military man and moved to Alabama, I stayed here when we divorced, I never returned because the cost of living is so much higher than here. I do miss California the culture and one day would like to visit again. I live close to a collage, Auburn University, There is only one health food store in our area, but Kroger has a lot of good stuff in it. Thank you for your feedback, Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 On 1/8/08, Michelle <jasmine_mooneagle wrote: > > What is GFCF? That's gluten-free/casein-free which basically means no wheat, barley or milk products. I try to eat GFCF myself, due to my Asperger's, but sometimes I slip up because of hidden ingredients and sometimes because of cravings and sometimes because I'm really hungry and it's the only food available. But I do notice a big difference in my ability to focus mentally and in how I feel physically when I'm being good and avoiding the gluten and casein foods. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Sparrow, I just discovered another called vegan-and-dairy-free. Looks quite active, too. Pam On Jan 9, 2008 4:16 AM, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote: On 1/8/08, Michelle <jasmine_mooneagle wrote: > > > > What is GFCF? > > That's gluten-free/casein-free which basically means no wheat, barley > or milk products. I try to eat GFCF myself, due to my Asperger's, but > sometimes I slip up because of hidden ingredients and sometimes > because of cravings and sometimes because I'm really hungry and it's > the only food available. But I do notice a big difference in my > ability to focus mentally and in how I feel physically when I'm being > good and avoiding the gluten and casein foods. > > Sparrow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Duh, that was a slip of the fingers. Pam On Jan 9, 2008 10:36 AM, pdw <pdworkman wrote: > Sparrow, > > I just discovered another called vegan-and-dairy-free. > > Looks quite active, too. > > Pam > > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:16 AM, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/8/08, Michelle <jasmine_mooneagle wrote: > > > > > > What is GFCF? > > > > That's gluten-free/casein-free which basically means no wheat, barley > > or milk products. I try to eat GFCF myself, due to my Asperger's, but > > sometimes I slip up because of hidden ingredients and sometimes > > because of cravings and sometimes because I'm really hungry and it's > > the only food available. But I do notice a big difference in my > > ability to focus mentally and in how I feel physically when I'm being > > good and avoiding the gluten and casein foods. > > > > Sparrow > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 > I just discovered another called > vegan-and-dairy-free. > > Looks quite active, too. Interesting (you'd think that 'vegan' *would* be dairy-free, after all) - but I can't find it at all, or anything like it Could you check again and give the url? many thanks. Love, Pat ---- Dr Patricia M. Sant http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld Vegetarian Spice: Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada 'To cultivate kindness is a valuable part of the business of life.' Samuel Johnson (1709-1784) ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 > Duh, that was a slip of the fingers. > > Found it! Thanks Love, Pat ---- Dr Patricia M. Sant http://beanvegan.blogspot.com Vegan World Cuisine: http://www.care2.com/c2cvegworld Vegetarian Spice: Vegetarian Slimming: vegetarianslimming Vegetarians In Canada: vegetariansincanada 'To cultivate kindness is a valuable part of the business of life.' Samuel Johnson (1709-1784) ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Cool my son when he was a child was alergic to soy, wheat and peanuts, he was/ is ADHD with hyperactivity and astma, and the doctor thought it was a lot to do with his diet. He is 32 now and the ADHD is the same, cant hold a job, etc., they don't grow out of it I guess but he eats a awful diet of anything and smokes ( with astma) I controlled his diet as a child but now that it is up to him he eats more chemicals than food, lol, fast foods and junk foods. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 On 1/9/08, Michelle <jasmine_mooneagle wrote: > > Cool my son when he was a child was alergic to soy, wheat and peanuts, > he was/ is ADHD with hyperactivity and astma, and the doctor thought it > was a lot to do with his diet. He is 32 now and the ADHD is the same, > cant hold a job, etc., they don't grow out of it I guess No, they don't. ADD and ADHD are differences in the brain that last a lifetime (which is why there is also no such thing as " adult onset ADD " (although there is unrecognized ADD that's not diagnosed until adulthood) because it's a brain difference one is born with, much like my Asperger's.) Where ADD or ADHD become a disease is, just as you and your doctor suspect, when the proper environment (both internally, through nutrition as well as externally) is not achieved. > but he eats a > awful diet of anything and smokes ( with astma) I controlled his diet > as a child but now that it is up to him he eats more chemicals than > food, lol, fast foods and junk foods. And that's more of the key to why he can't find success in the world. Many people with ADHD have grown up to be successful professionals - businessmen, EMT workers, etc. Some of the very same things that make the ADHD brain so hard to deal with are the same things that lead the person with ADHD to great success in the world. You gave your son a good start in life. I hope some day he comes to realize that and turns his nutrition around again. It's a shame when ADHD people don't get it together because, in my experience, they are some of the brightest minds you'll find. Sparrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Statistics show that up to 50% of children with ADD do not have symptoms as adults. Recent studies show that brain development is delayed, but does eventually catch up. The question for the researchers, then, is why some kids outgrow it and some don't. (And yes, I know that others believe that no-one outgrows it, they just manage the symptoms, but that is not what the research shows.) Pam On Jan 9, 2008 4:28 PM, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote: On 1/9/08, Michelle <jasmine_mooneagle wrote: > > > > Cool my son when he was a child was alergic to soy, wheat and peanuts, > > he was/ is ADHD with hyperactivity and astma, and the doctor thought it > > was a lot to do with his diet. He is 32 now and the ADHD is the same, > > cant hold a job, etc., they don't grow out of it I guess > > No, they don't. ADD and ADHD are differences in the brain that last a > lifetime (which is why there is also no such thing as " adult onset > ADD " (although there is unrecognized ADD that's not diagnosed until > adulthood) because it's a brain difference one is born with, much like > my Asperger's.) > > Where ADD or ADHD become a disease is, just as you and your doctor > suspect, when the proper environment (both internally, through > nutrition as well as externally) is not achieved. > > > > but he eats a > > awful diet of anything and smokes ( with astma) I controlled his diet > > as a child but now that it is up to him he eats more chemicals than > > food, lol, fast foods and junk foods. > > And that's more of the key to why he can't find success in the world. > Many people with ADHD have grown up to be successful professionals - > businessmen, EMT workers, etc. Some of the very same things that make > the ADHD brain so hard to deal with are the same things that lead the > person with ADHD to great success in the world. > > You gave your son a good start in life. I hope some day he comes to > realize that and turns his nutrition around again. It's a shame when > ADHD people don't get it together because, in my experience, they are > some of the brightest minds you'll find. > > Sparrow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Thank you Sparrow, He hopefully one day will learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 The Doctors pretty much told me he wouldn't outgrow it, he was Hyperactive too and they tried Ritilen( spelled wrong) and it really messed him up later in life he has had problems with chemical dependancy, and in a book I read when he was grown was that it was not the best thing to do to kids, but at the time doctors thought it was and I being a ( dumb) parent did not relise I was giving my son speed until I changed doctors and the new doctor took his off it and told me what it was, that Doctor was working on food allergies and food eliminations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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