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On 2/2/08, rchaloune <rchaloune wrote:

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> I just would like some feedback if anyone has tryed this. I bought a

> organic Vegetarian colon cleanser. Any thoughts ...oh Happy Feburary!!

 

I have never tried a colon cleanse. I have been wary of them because

you can't sweep the colon out without sweeping the whole tract out and

90% of digestion occurs in the small intestines.

 

A cleanse, it would seem, would sweep out desirable bacteria along

with everything else. The reason those of us who eat a lot of beans

are able to digest them is because our bodies have built up a good

supply of the specific bacteria that digest bean sugars. Ditto for

cruciferous vegetables. I would be afraid that a colon cleanse would

leave me unprepared to digest nutritious foods until my bacteria

colonies have repopulated.

 

And I do know that bentonite clay (if there should be any in your

product) is not a very good thing to be eating, by and large.

 

This article from WebMD:

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/colon-cleansers-are-they-safe

also says that colon cleansing can lead to dehydration and

deficiencies in vitamins and minerals and over time can result in a

less effective colon. The article recommends a healthy diet with

plenty of water and dietary fiber as the way to keep a clean colon.

 

All that said, I am not a doctor, I am not a health practitioner, and

I am not the one who lives with your colon so take all of the above as

my opinion, not advice.

 

Sparrow

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" The reason those of us who eat a lot of beans

are able to digest them is because our bodies have built up a good

supply of the specific bacteria that digest bean sugars. "

 

Hi Sparrow (BTW, great name)

Good point, could you give any advice on how to build up adequate supplies of

these good bacterias? I am one of those that finds difficulty on a 100%

vegetarian diet because of gassy stomach and intestines.

I do know all the fibers are much much better for me, but it's taking me

awhile to adjust to it.

 

Also thanks for the links on the excercise videos, I will be checking them out

since I rely solely on at home workouts, outdoors when I can, but indoors when

weather does not permit, which is often during the winter season.

Joan

 

 

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On 2/2/08, JBeard <jbeard_99 wrote:

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> Hi Sparrow (BTW, great name)

 

Thanks.

 

> Good point, could you give any advice on how to build up adequate

> supplies of these good bacterias? I am one of those that finds

> difficulty on a 100% vegetarian diet because of gassy stomach and

> intestines. I do know all the fibers are much much better for me,

> but it's taking me awhile to adjust to it.

 

You've actually hit on it yourself: give your body time to adjust.

 

The average " SAD " (Standard American Diet) has about 14 grams of

fiber. Most veg recommendations I've seen are around 40 g of fiber per

day. I aim for 50g at minimum (because the diabetes research I've read

was done on women eating a 55g/day fiber low-fat vegan diet) and it's

not unusual for me to have an 80g day. But I didn't jump straight from

14 to 80.

 

Start out by logging what you regularly eat that is comfortable for

you. Keep track of the fiber grams (some sites you might find useful

for that include fitday.com and nutritiondata.com) and just see where

you are at when you are digesting easily.

 

After a week, you should have a good idea of your comfort level so

then start upping it. Try adding 5 g of fiber per day the first week.

That's about 1/2 cup of cooked beans (7g) or an extra two servings of

fruit or vegetable. If it's too much and your stomach rebels, cut it

back to an extra 2 g. If your stomach handles it, the next week add

another 5 g of fiber.

 

If you're currently eating, for example, 20g of fiber per day, it will

take about a month at this rate to double your fiber intake to the 40

g per day so many health professionals advise. If it takes longer for

your body to adjust, don't worry -- just keep at it and know that any

improvement is a good improvement!

 

The good bacteria will come as you continue to feed them well - lots

of yummy veggies, whole grains, fruits, and legumes with plenty of

nutrients and fiber. The movie " Field of Dreams " said 'if you build

it, they will come.' Well, your good intestinal flora say " if you feed

us, we will come! " :-)

 

> Also thanks for the links on the excercise videos, I will be checking

> them out since I rely solely on at home workouts, outdoors when I

> can, but indoors when weather does not permit, which is often during

> the winter season.

 

You're welcome! I'm very excited about exercise videos right now

because I'd never done them before and don't otherwise get much motion

in the winter. Working with videos this last couple of months has

really put a lot more cheer into my winter!

 

Sparrow

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oh, yeah:

 

p.s. drink lots of water! People eating the Standard American Diet can

get by without drinking the recommended amount of water because their

fiber is low enough. Even if they drink no water at all, the body

breaks down carbohydrates to extract needed water from it and they can

get by just fine.

 

Once you go veggie and are increasing the fiber content of your food

you need more water. Yes, you're getting more water in your food if

you're eating lots of fruits and veggies, but you need even more water

than that to keep the fiber moving. Otherwise it turns into a stubborn

bulk and just sits there and you get digestive distress and/or

constipation.

 

(Some water substitutes count as water, too. Herbal teas, for example.

You want to avoid fruit and vegetable juices if you're trying to slim

down, though some say it's okay so long as you're making them in a

high-powered blender (such as Vita-Mix) so that you're still getting

the whole food. Otherwise, you can go over your calorie limit very

quickly if you're drinking your veggies.)

 

Try to at least get the basic 64 ounces of water. Again, if you're not

drinking that much, build up to it. Try to avoid drinking large

amounts in one sitting - carry around a water bottle if you can and

train yourself to take sips of it every ten to fifteen minutes.

 

Not only will the water help your body process all that veggie fiber

but it helps you to eat less. You have something to satisfy that urge

to put things in your mouth that can tend to make us over-snack and

you avoid dehydration. Many times people interpret low-level

dehydration as hunger and eat when they really only needed to drink

some water.

 

Sparrow

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I am a vegetarian. Thanks I am drinking 8 glasses a day :)

 

Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote: oh, yeah:

 

p.s. drink lots of water! People eating the Standard American Diet can

get by without drinking the recommended amount of water because their

fiber is low enough. Even if they drink no water at all, the body

breaks down carbohydrates to extract needed water from it and they can

get by just fine.

 

Once you go veggie and are increasing the fiber content of your food

you need more water. Yes, you're getting more water in your food if

you're eating lots of fruits and veggies, but you need even more water

than that to keep the fiber moving. Otherwise it turns into a stubborn

bulk and just sits there and you get digestive distress and/or

constipation.

 

(Some water substitutes count as water, too. Herbal teas, for example.

You want to avoid fruit and vegetable juices if you're trying to slim

down, though some say it's okay so long as you're making them in a

high-powered blender (such as Vita-Mix) so that you're still getting

the whole food. Otherwise, you can go over your calorie limit very

quickly if you're drinking your veggies.)

 

Try to at least get the basic 64 ounces of water. Again, if you're not

drinking that much, build up to it. Try to avoid drinking large

amounts in one sitting - carry around a water bottle if you can and

train yourself to take sips of it every ten to fifteen minutes.

 

Not only will the water help your body process all that veggie fiber

but it helps you to eat less. You have something to satisfy that urge

to put things in your mouth that can tend to make us over-snack and

you avoid dehydration. Many times people interpret low-level

dehydration as hunger and eat when they really only needed to drink

some water.

 

Sparrow

 

 

 

 

 

 

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