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what is purine?

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> what is purine?

 

See:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purine

 

http://library.med.utah.edu/NetBiochem/pupyr/pp.htm

 

http://www.britishdalmatianclub.org.uk/downloads/Purine%20Table%202003.htm

 

[WARNING: These sites also discuss non-vegetarian

sources of purine.]

 

There are other sites - just google for purine.

 

Note that the purine concern was for one specific

member who had written of a medical problem with

it.

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/6/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote:

>

> Note that the purine concern was for one specific

> member who had written of a medical problem with

> it.

 

Whew! So vegetarian with no (quoting from wikipedia) " asparagus,

cauliflower, spinach, mushrooms, green peas, lentils, dried peas,

beans, oatmeal, wheat bran and wheat germ " as well.

 

It appears that meats have between 100-300 mg of purine per 100 g of food.

 

If *low* purine is okay, then garbazo beans in small amounts might be

okay. (50 mg/100g) The other beans look like they have about

150-230mg/100g. Also cottage cheese is 8mg/100g and yogurt is

7mg/100g. If small amounts of purine are okay, these look like better

protein sources. The unfortunate thing is that purine and protein seem

to usually come together. The fortunate thing is that all vegetables

have protein in them and some dieticians say that even a diet of

nothing but vegetables will supply enough protein for the average

human.

 

Rice is another food with a small amount of purine (5.9mg/100g) but I

notice two of my favorite grains don't show up on any of the lists. I

can't find any purine figures for them, but it looks like they may be

low (ask your doctor if you aren't sure.) That's quinoa and millet.

 

Here's a couple of things I see right away that look like they might

be okay to eat. I could be wrong and missing some purine, but I've

looked at the lists I've found on the pages Pat cited and a few others

and this is my best guess:

 

quinoa - I have a recipe for a green pepper quinoa skillet dish that

might work. I just dug through my recipes and can't find it, but I

know it's around here somewhere so I'll come back with that one. I'm

glad you made me think of this because I haven't made it in a while

and now I'm craving it! :-)

 

millet - look in the list archives here [http://tinyurl.com/2a2b6c]

for my millet chili recipe. Leave out the pinto beans and it should

still taste good but be low in purine.

 

I'll keep the purine issue in mind and probably come up with a few

more recipes and thoughts in the coming days. I hope I can be helpful.

 

Sparrow

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Great info Sparrow. Thank you for helping Rupa out.

Cindi

 

Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote:

Whew! So vegetarian with no (quoting from wikipedia) " asparagus,

cauliflower, spinach, mushrooms, green peas, lentils, dried peas,

beans, oatmeal, wheat bran and wheat germ " as well.

 

It appears that meats have between 100-300 mg of purine per 100 g of food.

 

If *low* purine is okay, then garbazo beans in small amounts might be

okay. (50 mg/100g) The other beans look like they have about

150-230mg/100g. Also cottage cheese is 8mg/100g and yogurt is

7mg/100g. If small amounts of purine are okay, these look like better

protein sources. The unfortunate thing is that purine and protein seem

to usually come together. The fortunate thing is that all vegetables

have protein in them and some dieticians say that even a diet of

nothing but vegetables will supply enough protein for the average

human.

 

Rice is another food with a small amount of purine (5.9mg/100g) but I

notice two of my favorite grains don't show up on any of the lists. I

can't find any purine figures for them, but it looks like they may be

low (ask your doctor if you aren't sure.) That's quinoa and millet.

 

Here's a couple of things I see right away that look like they might

be okay to eat. I could be wrong and missing some purine, but I've

looked at the lists I've found on the pages Pat cited and a few others

and this is my best guess:

 

quinoa - I have a recipe for a green pepper quinoa skillet dish that

might work. I just dug through my recipes and can't find it, but I

know it's around here somewhere so I'll come back with that one. I'm

glad you made me think of this because I haven't made it in a while

and now I'm craving it! :-)

 

millet - look in the list archives here [http://tinyurl.com/2a2b6c]

for my millet chili recipe. Leave out the pinto beans and it should

still taste good but be low in purine.

 

I'll keep the purine issue in mind and probably come up with a few

more recipes and thoughts in the coming days. I hope I can be helpful.

 

Sparrow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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This page says quinoa has no measurable levels of purines:

 

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice & dbid=142

 

Millet is at 62 mg purine/100g:

 

http://www.acumedico.com/purine.htm

 

The above link is quite detailed and hopefully helpful (warning, lots

of mentions of different kinds of meat). Down at the bottom is a sort

of summary of what you should eat: mainly Group A 0-50 foods, with

" modest amounts " Group B 51-100 foods, which includes the whole

grains, legumes, etc.

 

 

If you want to avoid the Group B foods (which doesn't appear to be

necessary), you might want to join a couple of other too,

such as vegetariangf, , and foodallergykitchen.

I know that foodallergykitchen in particular has had a lot of

discussion lately on how to do gluten free (wheat, barley, etc.) and

avoid beans and/or soy on a vegetarian diet.

 

Pam

 

 

On Feb 6, 2008 1:24 PM, Sparrow R Jones <sparrowrose wrote:

On 2/6/08, Pat <drpatsant wrote:

> >

> > Note that the purine concern was for one specific

> > member who had written of a medical problem with

> > it.

>

> Whew! So vegetarian with no (quoting from wikipedia) " asparagus,

> cauliflower, spinach, mushrooms, green peas, lentils, dried peas,

> beans, oatmeal, wheat bran and wheat germ " as well.

>

> It appears that meats have between 100-300 mg of purine per 100 g of food.

>

> If *low* purine is okay, then garbazo beans in small amounts might be

> okay. (50 mg/100g) The other beans look like they have about

> 150-230mg/100g. Also cottage cheese is 8mg/100g and yogurt is

> 7mg/100g. If small amounts of purine are okay, these look like better

> protein sources. The unfortunate thing is that purine and protein seem

> to usually come together. The fortunate thing is that all vegetables

> have protein in them and some dieticians say that even a diet of

> nothing but vegetables will supply enough protein for the average

> human.

>

> Rice is another food with a small amount of purine (5.9mg/100g) but I

> notice two of my favorite grains don't show up on any of the lists. I

> can't find any purine figures for them, but it looks like they may be

> low (ask your doctor if you aren't sure.) That's quinoa and millet.

>

> Here's a couple of things I see right away that look like they might

> be okay to eat. I could be wrong and missing some purine, but I've

> looked at the lists I've found on the pages Pat cited and a few others

> and this is my best guess:

>

> quinoa - I have a recipe for a green pepper quinoa skillet dish that

> might work. I just dug through my recipes and can't find it, but I

> know it's around here somewhere so I'll come back with that one. I'm

> glad you made me think of this because I haven't made it in a while

> and now I'm craving it! :-)

>

> millet - look in the list archives here [http://tinyurl.com/2a2b6c]

> for my millet chili recipe. Leave out the pinto beans and it should

> still taste good but be low in purine.

>

> I'll keep the purine issue in mind and probably come up with a few

> more recipes and thoughts in the coming days. I hope I can be helpful.

>

> Sparrow

>

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On 2/6/08, pdw <pdworkman wrote:

>

> This page says quinoa has no measurable levels of purines:

>

> http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice & dbid=142

>

> Millet is at 62 mg purine/100g:

>

> http://www.acumedico.com/purine.htm

>

> The above link is quite detailed and hopefully helpful (warning, lots

> of mentions of different kinds of meat). Down at the bottom is a sort

> of summary of what you should eat: mainly Group A 0-50 foods, with

> " modest amounts " Group B 51-100 foods, which includes the whole

> grains, legumes, etc.

 

Ah, thanks Pam! You found the info I couldn't - and lots more of it!

 

The people on this list are such a great resource! So much combined

knowledge and skill! And a helpful spirit as well!

 

Sparrow

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Pam said:

> The people on this list are such a great

> resource! So much combined

> knowledge and skill! And a helpful spirit as

> well!

 

You are all just fabulous! Thanks, Pam and

Sparrow - this is an eye-opener for us all, I

think. Rupa, I shall be looking for recipes for

you - there are some beautiful ones that should

make the rest of your family envious that THEY

don't have gout!

 

Btw, Rupa, thanks for your good explanation of

purines and your condition - I also understand

that a low-purine diet is appropriate for those

with kidney stones (could be wrong there, of

course - I'm not a health practitioner), so I

couldn't assume what your problem was/is.

 

Let's kick this problem of yours in the head,

shall we? I shall look for low-purine recipes I

can recommend (as in, recipes that I have tried

or members of this group have tried), and I see

Sparrow is doing the same. What with that and

help from other members - hey, you should be

eating gourmet veggie food that will help your

gout AND drop weight off you at the same time.

(Sorry, don't yet have a recipe/diet that helps

you win the lottery!!!!)

 

Good for you for taking this as a wake-up call.

Hang in there!

 

Love and hugs, Pat

 

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Now that we have a good basis to draw from - Rupa, what do you like to

eat? What meals or pieces of the puzzle are empty now that you are

trying to fill? There's no point in us sending salads and pilafs if

what you are looking for is soups, pastas, or filling dinners. And

how strict do you intend to be? Do you want to avoid the B group or

just keep your intake " moderate " ?

 

Pam

 

On Feb 6, 2008 3:16 PM, Pat <drpatsant wrote:

> Let's kick this problem of yours in the head,

> shall we? I shall look for low-purine recipes I

> can recommend (as in, recipes that I have tried

> or members of this group have tried), and I see

> Sparrow is doing the same. What with that and

> help from other members - hey, you should be

> eating gourmet veggie food that will help your

> gout AND drop weight off you at the same time.

> (Sorry, don't yet have a recipe/diet that helps

> you win the lottery!!!!)

>

> Love and hugs, Pat