Was milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely smoking.

[Guest guest]

, " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote:

>

> The nicotine is out of your body after a few days, you should not

get

> cravings 5 years after quitting, that is definitely all in the mind.

>

 

I don't know enough to argue this point either way, although I

believe that addiciton has something to do with receptors in the

brain, which presumably don't go away just because the nicotine has

left your body.

 

Whether physical or mental, the addiction and the cravings are real.

To illustrate, do you overeat because you are *physically* addicted

to too much food? No. Ergo it must be easy to stop, because it's

all in the mind. There's no real difference, Lesley.

 

Cathy

[Guest guest]

you don't need the nicotine to be in yer body to have a craving silly

you crave the chemical reaction, and the way it makes you feel....

and yer body gets use to it...

if you needed nicotine in yer body constantly to be addicted, you'd have to

smoke every 60 minutes...would make sleeping hard i would gather...

 

" Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

 

>

>Losing weight is not easy. I have no willpower at all in that direction

>these days, too stressed with the kids.

>

>The trouble is you could get a doctor who is wrong and tells you you have

>very little time to live, and by the time you know they were wrong you could

>have got addicted to nicotine again.

>

>The nicotine is out of your body after a few days, you should not get

>cravings 5 years after quitting, that is definitely all in the mind.

>

>Nikki, my dad is an ex-smoker and he hates my mum smoking these days, not

>everyone finds it hard to quit, he said it was quite easy, so don't expect

>it to be hard and you will find it easier if you think positively that it

>can be done.

>

>Lesley

>

>  

>  cathyjupp [cj]

>  20 August 2002 17:05

>  

>   Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely

>smoking.

>

>

>  , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote:

>  I think I know enough people close to me who

>  > have quit to be able to say the addiction is all or mostly all in

>  the mind!

>  >

>  > Lesley

>

>

>  Living hell comes close.  A zillion times harder than losing weight

>  (and we all know how easy that is, right?).  Different people,

>  different levels of addiction.

>

>  If 'twere easy, what would be the motivation to continue after some

>  doctor's already cut off a leg and the other foot?  It happens, and

>  it's not all that rare.

>

>  Believe me Lesley, it's the hardest thing I've ever done, by a long

>  way.  And I did it twice.  Gave up for five years, couldn't stand the

>  cravings any longer, took it up again.  Smoked for a few years then

>  stopped again.  Easier with the patches, certainly, but still no fun

>  at all.  Still want one.  I'm with Roseanne, if ever I get the word

>  that I'm not long for this world, I'll be off to the Old Holborn shop

>  like greased lightning.  You have my best wishes, Nikki, good luck.

>

>  Cathy

>

>

>        

[Guest guest]

Smoke never made me feel anything but ill, I am obviously made differently.

And don't call me silly. I hate it when people call me silly.

 

Lesley

 

 

EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]20 August 2002 17:54 Subject: RE: Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely smoking.you don't need the nicotine to be in yer body to have a craving sillyyou crave the chemical reaction, and the way it makes you feel....and yer body gets use to it...if you needed nicotine in yer body constantly to be addicted, you'd have to smoke every 60 minutes...would make sleeping hard i would gather..."Lesley Dove" <Lesley wrote:>>Losing weight is not easy. I have no willpower at all in that direction>these days, too stressed with the kids.>>The trouble is you could get a doctor who is wrong and tells you you have>very little time to live, and by the time you know they were wrong you could>have got addicted to nicotine again.>>The nicotine is out of your body after a few days, you should not get>cravings 5 years after quitting, that is definitely all in the mind.>>Nikki, my dad is an ex-smoker and he hates my mum smoking these days, not>everyone finds it hard to quit, he said it was quite easy, so don't expect>it to be hard and you will find it easier if you think positively that it>can be done.>>Lesley>> > cathyjupp [cj]> 20 August 2002 17:05> > Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely>smoking.>>> , "Lesley Dove" <Lesley@v...> wrote:> I think I know enough people close to me who> > have quit to be able to say the addiction is all or mostly all in> the mind!> >> > Lesley>>> Living hell comes close. A zillion times harder than losing weight> (and we all know how easy that is, right?). Different people,> different levels of addiction.>> If 'twere easy, what would be the motivation to continue after some> doctor's already cut off a leg and the other foot? It happens, and> it's not all that rare.>> Believe me Lesley, it's the hardest thing I've ever done, by a long> way. And I did it twice. Gave up for five years, couldn't stand the> cravings any longer, took it up again. Smoked for a few years then> stopped again. Easier with the patches, certainly, but still no fun> at all. Still want one. I'm with Roseanne, if ever I get the word> that I'm not long for this world, I'll be off to the Old Holborn shop> like greased lightning. You have my best wishes, Nikki, good luck.>> Cathy>>>

[Guest guest]

second hand smoke is different then inhaling it str8

 

and you know wot, i now bow out...this is really not getting us anywhere, and we

are just offending each other

i would rather discuss, and not argue

anyone wanna talk about bees or spiders or the poor hamster i had to bury dis

morn or....

fraggle

 

" Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

 

>

>Smoke never made me feel anything but ill, I am obviously made differently.

>And don't call me silly. I hate it when people call me silly.

>

>Lesley

>

>  

>  EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]

>  20 August 2002 17:54

>  

>  RE: Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely

>smoking.

>

>

>  you don't need the nicotine to be in yer body to have a craving silly

>  you crave the chemical reaction, and the way it makes you feel....

>  and yer body gets use to it...

>  if you needed nicotine in yer body constantly to be addicted, you'd have

>to smoke every 60 minutes...would make sleeping hard i would gather...

>

>   " Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

>

>  >

>  >Losing weight is not easy. I have no willpower at all in that direction

>  >these days, too stressed with the kids.

>  >

>  >The trouble is you could get a doctor who is wrong and tells you you have

>  >very little time to live, and by the time you know they were wrong you

>could

>  >have got addicted to nicotine again.

>  >

>  >The nicotine is out of your body after a few days, you should not get

>  >cravings 5 years after quitting, that is definitely all in the mind.

>  >

>  >Nikki, my dad is an ex-smoker and he hates my mum smoking these days, not

>  >everyone finds it hard to quit, he said it was quite easy, so don't

>expect

>  >it to be hard and you will find it easier if you think positively that it

>  >can be done.

>  >

>  >Lesley

>  >

>  >  

>  >  cathyjupp [cj]

>  >  20 August 2002 17:05

>  >  

>  >   Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely

>  >smoking.

>  >

>  >

>  >  , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote:

>  >  I think I know enough people close to me who

>  >  > have quit to be able to say the addiction is all or mostly all in

>  >  the mind!

>  >  >

>  >  > Lesley

>  >

>  >

>  >  Living hell comes close.  A zillion times harder than losing weight

>  >  (and we all know how easy that is, right?).  Different people,

>  >  different levels of addiction.

>  >

>  >  If 'twere easy, what would be the motivation to continue after some

>  >  doctor's already cut off a leg and the other foot?  It happens, and

>  >  it's not all that rare.

>  >

>  >  Believe me Lesley, it's the hardest thing I've ever done, by a long

>  >  way.  And I did it twice.  Gave up for five years, couldn't stand the

>  >  cravings any longer, took it up again.  Smoked for a few years then

>  >  stopped again.  Easier with the patches, certainly, but still no fun

>  >  at all.  Still want one.  I'm with Roseanne, if ever I get the word

>  >  that I'm not long for this world, I'll be off to the Old Holborn shop

>  >  like greased lightning.  You have my best wishes, Nikki, good luck.

>  >

>  >  Cathy

>  >

>  >

>  >        

[Guest guest]

I was sorry to hear about your hamster (and your bad week). I wanted to tell

you I'll be sending happy vibes your way.

 

Hannah

 

 

EBbrewpunx

 

8/20/2002 1:19 PM

RE: Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely

smoking.

 

 

second hand smoke is different then inhaling it str8

 

and you know wot, i now bow out...this is really not getting us

anywhere, and we are just offending each other

i would rather discuss, and not argue

anyone wanna talk about bees or spiders or the poor hamster i had to

bury dis morn or....

fraggle

 

" Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

 

>

>Smoke never made me feel anything but ill, I am obviously made

differently.

>And don't call me silly. I hate it when people call me silly.

>

>Lesley

>

>  

>  EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]

>  20 August 2002 17:54

>  

>  RE: Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very

definitely

>smoking.

>

>

>  you don't need the nicotine to be in yer body to have a craving silly

>  you crave the chemical reaction, and the way it makes you feel....

>  and yer body gets use to it...

>  if you needed nicotine in yer body constantly to be addicted, you'd

have

>to smoke every 60 minutes...would make sleeping hard i would gather...

>

>   " Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

>

>  >

>  >Losing weight is not easy. I have no willpower at all in that

direction

>  >these days, too stressed with the kids.

>  >

>  >The trouble is you could get a doctor who is wrong and tells you you

have

>  >very little time to live, and by the time you know they were wrong

you

>could

>  >have got addicted to nicotine again.

>  >

>  >The nicotine is out of your body after a few days, you should not

get

>  >cravings 5 years after quitting, that is definitely all in the mind.

>  >

>  >Nikki, my dad is an ex-smoker and he hates my mum smoking these

days, not

>  >everyone finds it hard to quit, he said it was quite easy, so don't

>expect

>  >it to be hard and you will find it easier if you think positively

that it

>  >can be done.

>  >

>  >Lesley

>  >

>  >  

>  >  cathyjupp [cj]

>  >  20 August 2002 17:05

>  >  

>  >   Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very

definitely

>  >smoking.

>  >

>  >

>  >  , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote:

>  >  I think I know enough people close to me who

>  >  > have quit to be able to say the addiction is all or mostly all

in

>  >  the mind!

>  >  >

>  >  > Lesley

>  >

>  >

>  >  Living hell comes close.  A zillion times harder than losing

weight

>  >  (and we all know how easy that is, right?).  Different people,

>  >  different levels of addiction.

>  >

>  >  If 'twere easy, what would be the motivation to continue after

some

>  >  doctor's already cut off a leg and the other foot?  It happens,

and

>  >  it's not all that rare.

>  >

>  >  Believe me Lesley, it's the hardest thing I've ever done, by a

long

>  >  way.  And I did it twice.  Gave up for five years, couldn't stand

the

>  >  cravings any longer, took it up again.  Smoked for a few years

then

>  >  stopped again.  Easier with the patches, certainly, but still no

fun

>  >  at all.  Still want one.  I'm with Roseanne, if ever I get the

word

>  >  that I'm not long for this world, I'll be off to the Old Holborn

shop

>  >  like greased lightning.  You have my best wishes, Nikki, good

luck.

>  >

>  >  Cathy

>  >

>  >

>  >        

[Guest guest]

thanx hannah

it is appreciated

i know critters die, but, the timing could have been a bit better

and i have to deal with a room mates guilt, cuz its her fault basically that lil

boobie got out

 

 

" Trusty, Hannah " <hannah.trusty wrote:

 

> I was sorry to hear about your hamster (and your bad week).  I wanted to tell

you I'll be sending happy vibes your way.

>

>Hannah

>

>

>EBbrewpunx

>

>8/20/2002 1:19 PM

>RE: Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely

smoking.

>

>

>second hand smoke is different then inhaling it str8

>

>and you know wot, i now bow out...this is really not getting us

>anywhere, and we are just offending each other

>i would rather discuss, and not argue

>anyone wanna talk about bees or spiders or the poor hamster i had to

>bury dis morn or....

>fraggle

>

> " Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

>

>>

>>Smoke never made me feel anything but ill, I am obviously made

>differently.

>>And don't call me silly. I hate it when people call me silly.

>>

>>Lesley

>>

>>  

>>  EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]

>>  20 August 2002 17:54

>>  

>>  RE: Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very

>definitely

>>smoking.

>>

>>

>>  you don't need the nicotine to be in yer body to have a craving silly

>>  you crave the chemical reaction, and the way it makes you feel....

>>  and yer body gets use to it...

>>  if you needed nicotine in yer body constantly to be addicted, you'd

>have

>>to smoke every 60 minutes...would make sleeping hard i would gather...

>>

>>   " Lesley Dove " <Lesley wrote:

>>

>>  >

>>  >Losing weight is not easy. I have no willpower at all in that

>direction

>>  >these days, too stressed with the kids.

>>  >

>>  >The trouble is you could get a doctor who is wrong and tells you you

>have

>>  >very little time to live, and by the time you know they were wrong

>you

>>could

>>  >have got addicted to nicotine again.

>>  >

>>  >The nicotine is out of your body after a few days, you should not

>get

>>  >cravings 5 years after quitting, that is definitely all in the mind.

>>  >

>>  >Nikki, my dad is an ex-smoker and he hates my mum smoking these

>days, not

>>  >everyone finds it hard to quit, he said it was quite easy, so don't

>>expect

>>  >it to be hard and you will find it easier if you think positively

>that it

>>  >can be done.

>>  >

>>  >Lesley

>>  >

>>  >  

>>  >  cathyjupp [cj]

>>  >  20 August 2002 17:05

>>  >  

>>  >   Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very

>definitely

>>  >smoking.

>>  >

>>  >

>>  >  , " Lesley Dove " <Lesley@v...> wrote:

>>  >  I think I know enough people close to me who

>>  >  > have quit to be able to say the addiction is all or mostly all

>in

>>  >  the mind!

>>  >  >

>>  >  > Lesley

>>  >

>>  >

>>  >  Living hell comes close.  A zillion times harder than losing

>weight

>>  >  (and we all know how easy that is, right?).  Different people,

>>  >  different levels of addiction.

>>  >

>>  >  If 'twere easy, what would be the motivation to continue after

>some

>>  >  doctor's already cut off a leg and the other foot?  It happens,

>and

>>  >  it's not all that rare.

>>  >

>>  >  Believe me Lesley, it's the hardest thing I've ever done, by a

>long

>>  >  way.  And I did it twice.  Gave up for five years, couldn't stand

>the

>>  >  cravings any longer, took it up again.  Smoked for a few years

>then

>>  >  stopped again.  Easier with the patches, certainly, but still no

>fun

>>  >  at all.  Still want one.  I'm with Roseanne, if ever I get the

>word

>>  >  that I'm not long for this world, I'll be off to the Old Holborn

>shop

>>  >  like greased lightning.  You have my best wishes, Nikki, good

>luck.

>>  >

>>  >  Cathy

>>  >

>>  >

>>  >        

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry about your poor hamster, I used to have hamsters as a kid.

We have a lot of spiders in our flat, no pets though.

We also get a few mosquitoes around and get bitten quite a bit.

I suppose people who smoke don't suffer mozzy bites, with nicotine being an insecticide?

Second hand smoke is bad, inhaling it "str8" is even nastier, I did try it briefly many years ago in an effort to understand why my mum did it becaused she had messed up my health and I was so resentful about it. I was forcing myself to try it to see why she had done it. *Shudder*, it is horrible to remember, because it was really so nasty, just many times nastier than second hand smoke, made me so ill, thumping headache, worse than being punched the other day, as well as constant phlegm for days. I really regretted trying it. Nothing pleasant about it at all. I'm not arguing, just telling it how it was.

 

Lesley

 

 

EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]20 August 2002 18:20 Subject: RE: Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely smoking.second hand smoke is different then inhaling it str8and you know wot, i now bow out...this is really not getting us anywhere, and we are just offending each otheri would rather discuss, and not argueanyone wanna talk about bees or spiders or the poor hamster i had to bury dis morn or....fraggle"Lesley Dove" <Lesley wrote:>>Smoke never made me feel anything but ill, I am obviously made differently.>And don't call me silly. I hate it when people call me silly.>>Lesley>> > EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]> 20 August 2002 17:54> > RE: Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely>smoking.>>> you don't need the nicotine to be in yer body to have a craving silly> you crave the chemical reaction, and the way it makes you feel....> and yer body gets use to it...> if you needed nicotine in yer body constantly to be addicted, you'd have>to smoke every 60 minutes...would make sleeping hard i would gather...>> "Lesley Dove" <Lesley wrote:>> >> >Losing weight is not easy. I have no willpower at all in that direction> >these days, too stressed with the kids.> >> >The trouble is you could get a doctor who is wrong and tells you you have> >very little time to live, and by the time you know they were wrong you>could> >have got addicted to nicotine again.> >> >The nicotine is out of your body after a few days, you should not get> >cravings 5 years after quitting, that is definitely all in the mind.> >> >Nikki, my dad is an ex-smoker and he hates my mum smoking these days, not> >everyone finds it hard to quit, he said it was quite easy, so don't>expect> >it to be hard and you will find it easier if you think positively that it> >can be done.> >> >Lesley> >> > > > cathyjupp [cj]> > 20 August 2002 17:05> > > > Was Re: milk sucksssssssss Now very definitely> >smoking.> >> >> > , "Lesley Dove" <Lesley@v...> wrote:> > I think I know enough people close to me who> > > have quit to be able to say the addiction is all or mostly all in> > the mind!> > >> > > Lesley> >> >> > Living hell comes close. A zillion times harder than losing weight> > (and we all know how easy that is, right?). Different people,> > different levels of addiction.> >> > If 'twere easy, what would be the motivation to continue after some> > doctor's already cut off a leg and the other foot? It happens, and> > it's not all that rare.> >> > Believe me Lesley, it's the hardest thing I've ever done, by a long> > way. And I did it twice. Gave up for five years, couldn't stand the> > cravings any longer, took it up again. Smoked for a few years then> > stopped again. Easier with the patches, certainly, but still no fun> > at all. Still want one. I'm with Roseanne, if ever I get the word> > that I'm not long for this world, I'll be off to the Old Holborn shop> > like greased lightning. You have my best wishes, Nikki, good luck.> >> > Cathy> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Fraggle

 

> anyone wanna talk about bees or spiders or the poor hamster i had to bury

dis morn or....

 

You buried some bees and spiders this morning? Was this some ancient

Egyptian hamster burial so she had servants in the next life?

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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