Any Kosher vegetarians out there?

[Guest guest]

In general if you are vegetarian you keep a Kosher diet - especially

if you are vegan. Ovo-lacto veggies have to be careful about cheeses,

many are nto kosher. many are not vegetarian either - depending upon

how you view cheese. Pesce veggies also may or may not be Kosher

depending upon the fish they eat. Finally - some prepared veggie

foods (in the frozen area) are not kosher (Business choice more than

dietary rules.).

Amy

[Guest guest]

, " Amy P. "

<aviva_hadas> wrote:

>

> In general if you are vegetarian you keep a Kosher diet -

especially

> if you are vegan.

 

You'll have to forgive my ignorance, but I've never fully understood

the term Kosher. I actually thought it had something to do with a

slaughter method, evidently I was a little off track.

 

>Ovo-lacto veggies have to be careful about cheeses,

> many are nto kosher. many are not vegetarian either -

 

Look for ones that contain animal-free rennet, or no rennet

(sometimes only listed as " starter culture " if I've got my info

right). Not sure which other ingredients in cheese we need to watch

out for. Over here, Mainland cheeses produce a cheese simply

called " Vegetarian " , which is quite tasty. Obviously not suitable

for vegans though.

 

Regards

Louise

South Australia

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[Guest guest]

aside from a blessing by a certified orthodox rabbi, i think it is to do with a

method of slaughtering for meat-eaters, and also that some types of meat are

considered " unclean " in jewish standards (like pork). some products that are

considered lacto-ovo (cheese & eggs) must also be certified kosher, to be

suitable for an orthodox vegetarian diet.

 

by definition, shouldn't most if not all vegan foods be kosher, if it contains

no animal products of any kind?

 

Megan Milligan

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Louise

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 11:55 PM

Re: Any Kosher vegetarians out there?

 

 

 

, " Amy P. "

<aviva_hadas> wrote:

>

> In general if you are vegetarian you keep a Kosher diet -

especially

> if you are vegan.

 

You'll have to forgive my ignorance, but I've never fully understood

the term Kosher. I actually thought it had something to do with a

slaughter method, evidently I was a little off track.

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[Guest guest]

> You'll have to forgive my ignorance, but I've never fully

understood

> the term Kosher. I actually thought it had something to do with a

> slaughter method, evidently I was a little off track.

 

That is part of it, but it also looks are processing methods and

mixing. no milks and meats together (Makes being veggie part of the

chioce in keeping kosher as well - not meat to mix) and some fish

types are not-kosher - shrimp, lobster, oysters to name a few - those

are not slaughtered. Finally animals like rabbits are not kosher -

even if they are ritually slaughtered, because they do not have

cloven hooves. Pigs are not because of how/what they eat (same

principle for bottom feeder fish - catfish) and the fact that they do

not work - like a cow provides milk.....

 

With all of the rules, it is easier to be veggie while keeping a

kosher diet except when you are looking for porcessed foods. Some of

Amy's products are o.k., while others are not.....

[Guest guest]

> by definition, shouldn't most if not all vegan foods be kosher, if

it contains no animal products of any kind?

 

In theory yes, but some processed foods are " 100% vegetarian, but not

Kosher. " While for some processors " brands " this is a business

chioce, for others it is more puzzling - like Amy's brand all are

vegetarian, but only some are kosher.

 

If you are making vegan food from scratch there are no problems. Eggs

& milk in the US is also o.k. (Becasue the dept. of Ag. is more

strict) but some cheeses are not. In the " hard " cheese dept., I only

eat Tillamook mild cheddar - it is veggie and kosher (some of their

other products are not veggie or kosher).

 

For the Indian food, I have found a shelf stable Indian food that has

vegetarian and kosher choices.

[Guest guest]

Remember too that a food can be perfectly kosher without the commonest

certification labels on them, u and k and all those. In order to get

those, manufacturers have to pay a rabbinic group a number of

certification fees and travel expenses on a frequent basis (to the

point a few people appear to think it's kind of a scam), and probably

more still to get it on each and every product they make.

 

 

, " Amy P. " <aviva_hadas>

wrote:

>

>

> > by definition, shouldn't most if not all vegan foods be kosher, if

> it contains no animal products of any kind?

>

> In theory yes, but some processed foods are " 100% vegetarian, but not

> Kosher. " While for some processors " brands " this is a business

> chioce, for others it is more puzzling - like Amy's brand all are

> vegetarian, but only some are kosher.

>

> If you are making vegan food from scratch there are no problems. Eggs

> & milk in the US is also o.k. (Becasue the dept. of Ag. is more

> strict) but some cheeses are not. In the " hard " cheese dept., I only

> eat Tillamook mild cheddar - it is veggie and kosher (some of their

> other products are not veggie or kosher).

>

> For the Indian food, I have found a shelf stable Indian food that has

> vegetarian and kosher choices.

[Guest guest]

> Remember too that a food can be perfectly kosher without the

commonest

> certification labels on them, u and k and all those. In order to

get

> those, manufacturers have to pay a rabbinic group a number of

> certification fees and travel expenses on a frequent basis (to the

> point a few people appear to think it's kind of a scam), and

probably

> more still to get it on each and every product they make.

 

 

yes, but A) everyone needs a job, even the rabbi who certifies food

as kosher, B) when it is part of your religious observance, it is

important, & C) if there is a hecksher on the product, you do not

have to worry so much about non-veggies additives. Just stick with

the parve heckshers or the dairy ones if that is your slant.

 

Amy - who made a turnip (rudabaga) peas and shrooms dish for dinner

last night.

[Guest guest]

Of course I read the ingredients if I think it should be safe, even if I don't

see the prefered symbol. And I am now remembering the time I saw a U-D on soy

milk. I wrote to the company!

 

 

 

" Amy P. " <aviva_ha> wrote:

 

 

> Remember too that a food can be perfectly kosher without the

commonest

> certification labels on them, u and k and all those. In order to

get

> those, manufacturers have to pay a rabbinic group a number of

> certification fees and travel expenses on a frequent basis (to the

> point a few people appear to think it's kind of a scam), and

probably

> more still to get it on each and every product they make.

 

 

yes, but A) everyone needs a job, even the rabbi who certifies food

as kosher, B) when it is part of your religious observance, it is

important, & C) if there is a hecksher on the product, you do not

have to worry so much about non-veggies additives. Just stick with

the parve heckshers or the dairy ones if that is your slant.

 

Amy - who made a turnip (rudabaga) peas and shrooms dish for dinner

last night.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

And I am now remembering the time I saw a U-D on soy milk. I wrote

to the company!

 

I saw this on sorbet adn questioned it.... The product itself is

parve, but the machinery used to make it also makes ice cream, so it

is a dairy product. I switched from Haagen daz to sharon's.