Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Hi Susie, Does the dairy bother your digestive system? Have you tried the doy and rice cheeses and the soy yogurt? I also buy a good tofu sour cream. The Rice Dream ice cream is wonderful. I get so ill from dairy that I have no choice but to give it up. Peace, Donna " artichoke72x " <artichoke72x wrote: hi debra, dairy affects me in similar ways....sinus problems (including sinus infections and headaches), congestion, and perpetual post nasal drip. i went completely diary free for 6 months one time and all the problems disappeared completely. unfortunately, i went back to diary (i couldn't live without cheese)and many of my problems returned. i wish i had the willpower to give up diary again. susie --- Debra Lee Thompson <Debrathompson wrote: > > Hey Donna - > > I've always had sinus problems, and kept earaches as > a child. I also > noticed over the years that when I would drink a > glass of milk, I'd > get a sore throat. Well, I decided to go vegan, and > after about two > weeks, I slipped up on some masala tea I ordered in > a restaurant. It > had milk in it, not much, but it was there. First > my throat felt > really fuzzy inside, then I developed a sore throat > within a couple > of hours - that lasted until noon the next day. > Also, after having > been completely off dairy for one week, I started > breathing better - > more like a normal person and less like an > asthmatic! Now I notice > even the slightest bit of milk - and I pay for it - > with sore > throats, earaches, and/or sinus headaches. > > Debra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 hi donna, no, diary doesn't bother my digestive system, thank goodness. i've actually tried alot of the diary alternatives, some of them are just nasty...i'd rather go without. soyco foods rice shreds are my favorite cheese substitutes (but they contain casein). i have hypothyroidism, so i limit the amount of soy i consume. oh yes, rice dream...very good. have you ever had the rice dream pies? yummmy! i was wondering....if people who have problems with cow's milk could tolerate goats milk? i love goat cheese. i could probably survive on goat cheese and rice cheese. susie --- GeminiDragon <thelilacflower wrote: > Hi Susie, > Does the dairy bother your digestive system? Have > you tried the doy and rice cheeses and the soy > yogurt? I also buy a good tofu sour cream. The > Rice Dream ice cream is wonderful. > I get so ill from dairy that I have no choice but to > give it up. > Peace, Donna Meet the all-new My - Try it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Hello, I just read Susie's mail, that she has hypothyroidism and does not eat much soya products. This is completely new for me. I also have hypothyroism and take medication. So what is " casein " ? and why is it not good in cases of hypothyroidism? We do eat dairy products, but of course also soya products. Last year I had to temporarily refrain from calcium-rich products, because of too much calcium in blood. This had to do with bad performance of one of the para-thyroid glands which was taken out and since then I can use calcium-rich products and actually have to take a calcium supplement. No doctor ever told me to be careful with soya products. I would appreciate more information. Thank you and have a nice day ~ Dorith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 About Health & Fitness Allergies Casein Is a Milk Protein A milk protein called casein could be the cause of unnecessary suffering for those allergic to dairy products. It is used in many processed foods and products, many times as a hidden ingredient. The presence of casein in processed foods can cause anaphylaxis, a life threatening reaction, in susceptible individuals. What Is Casein? Casein is the principal protein of cow's milk. It is the curd that forms when milk is left to sour. It is the most commonly used milk protein in the food industry and contains 21 amino acids. Acid casein, a granular milk protein, is available in two types -- edible and technical. Edible acid casein is highly nutritional, low in fat and cholesterol, and flavorful, making it ideal for medical and nutritional applications. It is used in coffee whiteners, infant formulas, processed cheese, and for use in pharmaceutical products. Technical acid caseins have good binding properties and are used for the manufacture of paper coatings, adhesives, paints, concrete, textile fabrics, and cosmetics. Hydrolyzed casein is casein that has been broken down partially or completely to its constituent amino acids. It may be labeled as hydrolyzed protein and is often used in canned fish. Lactic casein is used in pharmaceutical products, food ingredients, and as a binding agent in industrial products such as paint, glue, and paper. Rennett casein is used in the manufacturing of products. Because of its good dye binding ability and excellent extrusion properties, it is ideal for use in plastics such as buttons, beads, buckles, knitting needles, and high quality plastics for jewelry. What Are Caseinates? Since casein itself will not dissolve in water you will more likely see caseinates, which are the salts of casein, on ingredients labels. They are made by dissolving acid casein in a suitable hydroxide and drying it to make a water soluble product. Ammonium caseinate is used mainly in bakery products, therefore, it does not have to be listed on the ingredients label. Calcium caseinate is used as a nutrient supplement. It is used in creamed cottage cheese, powdered diet supplements, nutritional beverages, processed cheese, and frozen desserts because it has a milky appearance and smooth feel in the mouth. Potassium caseinate is used in frozen custard, ice cream, ice milk, and fruit sherbets. Sodium caseinate is highly soluble and is used as an emulsifier in coffee whiteners, cottage cheese, cream liqueurs, yogurt, processed cheeses, and some meat products. It is also used to improve the whipping properties of dessert whips. Casein Awareness Reading labels is imperative. If in doubt, always check with the manufacturer prior to purchasing a product. The word 'non dairy' does not necessarily mean the product does not contain casein or caseinates. The terms to watch for include the ones mentioned above, as well as cheese, curds, milk proteins, and milk solids. Imitation sausages, soups, stews, high-protein beverage powders, fortified cereals, infant formula, nutrition bars, bakery glazes, coffee whiteners, formulated meats, salad dressing, sauces, and whipped toppings all may contain casein or caseinates. Casein and caseinates are used as extenders, tenderizers, nutritional fortifers, and texturizers, therefore can be found in products other than foods. For instance, Trident For Kids and Trident Advantage contain Recaldent which contains a milk-casein derivative. Other examples of products containing casein include cosmetics, adhesives, pharmaceutical, nutritional, and personal care products. ===== " The cat did not respond. She did not believe in paraphrasing anybody. If people pursued this same feline wisdom, there'd be a lot fewer misunderstandings. " From Kinky Friedman's Meanwhile, Back at the Ranch Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile./maildemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Yes Susie, goats milk is fine but I don't really care for feta cheese or the French cheese. There is one Scandinacian cheese that tastes like caramel that I use on crackers during the holifays. The name escapes my memory right now. " artichoke72x " <artichoke72x wrote: hi donna, no, diary doesn't bother my digestive system, thank goodness. i've actually tried alot of the diary alternatives, some of them are just nasty...i'd rather go without. soyco foods rice shreds are my favorite cheese substitutes (but they contain casein). i have hypothyroidism, so i limit the amount of soy i consume. oh yes, rice dream...very good. have you ever had the rice dream pies? yummmy! i was wondering....if people who have problems with cow's milk could tolerate goats milk? i love goat cheese. i could probably survive on goat cheese and rice cheese. susie --- GeminiDragon <thelilacflower wrote: > Hi Susie, > Does the dairy bother your digestive system? Have > you tried the doy and rice cheeses and the soy > yogurt? I also buy a good tofu sour cream. The > Rice Dream ice cream is wonderful. > I get so ill from dairy that I have no choice but to > give it up. > Peace, Donna Meet the all-new My - Try it today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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