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Was she the one paired up with the ZZ Top-looking Harley guy who had

the messy front lawn? I thought she was GREAT! She was so

open-minded—she bartended at a biker's bar in leather chaps, she rode

on the Harley, she never got bent out of shape like her own husband did

with the other family....I thought she was very classy, and

open-minded.

 

Matthew

On Dec 2, 2004, at 5:55 PM, Truequality17 wrote:

 

> Did anyone watch Trading Spouse on Monday?  Well, their was a

> Vegetarian on

> the show named Barbara, and she ate deep-fried alligator to prove a

> point to

> the meat eaters that change is good b/c they didn't enjoy Barbara's

> Vegan

> lifestyle.

>

> If u were in Barbara's situation would u eat meat to prove a point to

> someone?

>

>

> My response: HELL NO, I've been there and done that, I am at peace

> being a

> Vegetarian.

> " The means we choose dictate the ends we achieve. "

>

>

>

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Funny you brought that up...I watched a spouse switch show last

night, the hubbies switched. One was a biker & kind of a slob, but

ever so sweet, the other lived in sort of a commune, was very earth

consious and aware. They discussed that the commune guy didn't let

his kids eat candy, but I don't believe they were vegetarian.

ANYWAY - leaning more to the earth centered lifestyle myself, it

made me wonder if I could ever do something like that...especially

given our veggie diet & we are aware of things like serving utensils

that may have been in meat, etc. I know my husband would never be

able to eat any sort of meat no matter what - I'm not so strict as

he, but I wouldn't eat meat to prove a point, I'd have to want to

eat it & can't imagine that, especially alligator!!

 

m

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At 05:55 PM 12/2/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>Did anyone watch Trading Spouse on Monday? Well, their was a Vegetarian on

>the show named Barbara, and she ate deep-fried alligator to prove a point to

>the meat eaters that change is good b/c they didn't enjoy Barbara's Vegan

>lifestyle.

 

Oh my god, Barbara was SUCH a snot. Sadly, she embodied every ugly vegan

stereotype there is. She was rude, disrespectful, pushy, and pushed " weird

food " as much as possible (Why not cook a nice, familiar vegan spaghetti

dinner with all the delicious fixings instead of making them drink

green smoothies or whatever and pushing fake meat on them? Pasta, garlic

bread, salad, green beans...mmm!) She also hit the dog repeatedly while

shoving the animal's head down trying to rub her face in the urine...a

stupid, useless way to try to train a dog. She was mean to the family's kid

and had no tact or people skills at all. If she'd backed off and tried to

be nice, she would have been far more likely to encourage people to try

veggie living, or at least reduce the killing, but instead she gave america

an excuse to believe that we are all nasty, anti-social, vegan police.

 

 

>If u were in Barbara's situation would u eat meat to prove a point to

>someone?

 

Nope. They didn't care if she did or didn't and what does it prove? I also

was annoyed with her " it's not a mammal, it's a reptile so it's not as

bad. " They're both sentient. No brain, no central nervous system, I

understand (and providing animals weren't tortured to get that non-sentient

food to the table.)

 

Veronica

 

 

 

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> Did anyone watch Trading Spouse on Monday? Well, their was a

Vegetarian on

> the show named Barbara, and she ate deep-fried alligator to prove a

point to

> the meat eaters that change is good b/c they didn't enjoy Barbara's

Vegan

> lifestyle.

>

> If u were in Barbara's situation would u eat meat to prove a point

to

> someone?

>

>

> My response: HELL NO, I've been there and done that, I am at peace

being a

> Vegetarian.

> " The means we choose dictate the ends we achieve. "

 

 

But that makes good TV - Did you watch the show? Then the TV people

achieved the ends they were after. Are you still talking about it?

Then the TV people achieved the ends they were after. This all part

of the TV game.

Also remember that Barbara CHOSE to be on the TV show.

Amy

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My wife and I also agree with these posts. That person was not a true veggie

based on the ones that I have met in my life. I am writing the network and the

producers of the show reflecting these issues. They want relality, huh, such

for this reality. We thought we were the only ones who did not like what we

saw, but this is the Jerry Springer of reality TV. I know some cajuns who did

not like what they saw either regarding the other spouse, and his earing habits

as it made all cajuns look like they will eat anything. That is not true

either, they do not eat bugs......except mud bugs (crawfish). LOL, Just my .02,

Brian

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melly0

Friday, December 03, 2004 11:27 AM

Re: Trading Spouse

 

 

my husband and i agree with you whole heartedly. we

couldn't believe the things she did. we liked the part

were she was offering everyone a gardenburger " that

didn't cause cancer " (her words), but went out side to

smoke a cigarette. i don't like two faced veggies

either. how can you teach and offer advise if you

don't practice what you preach. glad someone thought

that episode was silly too.

mel

--- Diamond Dog <diamonddog wrote:

 

> At 05:55 PM 12/2/2004 -0500, you wrote:

> >Did anyone watch Trading Spouse on Monday? Well,

> their was a Vegetarian on

> >the show named Barbara, and she ate deep-fried

> alligator to prove a point to

> >the meat eaters that change is good b/c they didn't

> enjoy Barbara's Vegan

> >lifestyle.

>

> Oh my god, Barbara was SUCH a snot. Sadly, she

> embodied every ugly vegan

> stereotype there is. She was rude, disrespectful,

> pushy, and pushed " weird

> food " as much as possible (Why not cook a nice,

> familiar vegan spaghetti

> dinner with all the delicious fixings instead of

> making them drink

> green smoothies or whatever and pushing fake meat

> on them? Pasta, garlic

> bread, salad, green beans...mmm!) She also hit the

> dog repeatedly while

> shoving the animal's head down trying to rub her

> face in the urine...a

> stupid, useless way to try to train a dog. She was

> mean to the family's kid

> and had no tact or people skills at all. If she'd

> backed off and tried to

> be nice, she would have been far more likely to

> encourage people to try

> veggie living, or at least reduce the killing, but

> instead she gave america

> an excuse to believe that we are all nasty,

> anti-social, vegan police.

>

>

> >If u were in Barbara's situation would u eat meat

> to prove a point to

> >someone?

>

> Nope. They didn't care if she did or didn't and what

> does it prove? I also

> was annoyed with her " it's not a mammal, it's a

> reptile so it's not as

> bad. " They're both sentient. No brain, no central

> nervous system, I

> understand (and providing animals weren't tortured

> to get that non-sentient

> food to the table.)

>

> Veronica

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

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my husband and i agree with you whole heartedly. we

couldn't believe the things she did. we liked the part

were she was offering everyone a gardenburger " that

didn't cause cancer " (her words), but went out side to

smoke a cigarette. i don't like two faced veggies

either. how can you teach and offer advise if you

don't practice what you preach. glad someone thought

that episode was silly too.

mel

--- Diamond Dog <diamonddog wrote:

 

> At 05:55 PM 12/2/2004 -0500, you wrote:

> >Did anyone watch Trading Spouse on Monday? Well,

> their was a Vegetarian on

> >the show named Barbara, and she ate deep-fried

> alligator to prove a point to

> >the meat eaters that change is good b/c they didn't

> enjoy Barbara's Vegan

> >lifestyle.

>

> Oh my god, Barbara was SUCH a snot. Sadly, she

> embodied every ugly vegan

> stereotype there is. She was rude, disrespectful,

> pushy, and pushed " weird

> food " as much as possible (Why not cook a nice,

> familiar vegan spaghetti

> dinner with all the delicious fixings instead of

> making them drink

> green smoothies or whatever and pushing fake meat

> on them? Pasta, garlic

> bread, salad, green beans...mmm!) She also hit the

> dog repeatedly while

> shoving the animal's head down trying to rub her

> face in the urine...a

> stupid, useless way to try to train a dog. She was

> mean to the family's kid

> and had no tact or people skills at all. If she'd

> backed off and tried to

> be nice, she would have been far more likely to

> encourage people to try

> veggie living, or at least reduce the killing, but

> instead she gave america

> an excuse to believe that we are all nasty,

> anti-social, vegan police.

>

>

> >If u were in Barbara's situation would u eat meat

> to prove a point to

> >someone?

>

> Nope. They didn't care if she did or didn't and what

> does it prove? I also

> was annoyed with her " it's not a mammal, it's a

> reptile so it's not as

> bad. " They're both sentient. No brain, no central

> nervous system, I

> understand (and providing animals weren't tortured

> to get that non-sentient

> food to the table.)

>

> Veronica

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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> > If u were in Barbara's situation would u eat meat to prove a

point to someone?

 

No, but then I wouldn't go on any reality show- I do not watch them

but I hear about them and several people asked me about this show

because the woman ate meat(like vegetarians don't get enough guff out

here already).

I do not see how eating a piece of meat proves that change is good or

possible. If you wanted someone to stop smoking, would you smoke to

prove something to them? What is the fascination people have

with " reality " shows- which of course are not real- they are being

recorded. It seems to me the real life we have is scary enough-if

that is why people watch these things. People should be getting up,

turning off the tube(oops- I guess it may be a plasma flatscreen now)

and making their own real life. Sorry, but these TV " realities " cause

me to rant

 

Andrea

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The off switch is a wonderful thing. ;)

 

, " andrearkline "

<andrearkline> wrote:

>

> > > If u were in Barbara's situation would u eat meat to prove a

> point to someone?

>

> No, but then I wouldn't go on any reality show- I do not watch

them

> but I hear about them and several people asked me about this show

> because the woman ate meat(like vegetarians don't get enough guff

out

> here already).

> I do not see how eating a piece of meat proves that change is good

or

> possible. If you wanted someone to stop smoking, would you smoke

to

> prove something to them? What is the fascination people have

> with " reality " shows- which of course are not real- they are being

> recorded. It seems to me the real life we have is scary enough-if

> that is why people watch these things. People should be getting

up,

> turning off the tube(oops- I guess it may be a plasma flatscreen

now)

> and making their own real life. Sorry, but these TV " realities "

cause

> me to rant

>

> Andrea

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