Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Klara - I just did a quick search on using on " macrobiotic " and found a number of dedicated groups there - one of them listed this link: http://www.rosanna.com/macrolist/ I hope you find what you're looking for - I tried macrobiotics year ago, but couldn't get the rest of the household to go that way, so I finally gave up. It was too tiring to cook two full meals all at once every time. I do still love the veg sushi I used to make:) I think that was my fave:) Debra Lee Thompson Analyst - Mortgage I First Horizon Home Loans Corporation debrathompson <debrathompson 214.492.7402 Klara LeVine [klara_levine] Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:08 PM Re: Re: The scoop on gelatin/gelatine and marshmallows I'm in a bit of a quandry - I just joined, but realize like my other forays in vegetarian societies it doesn't quite fit my needs. I follow a macrobiotic diet and love it more than you can imagine. Previous to macro days I did Fit for Life and was a big advocate of vegetarianism for a very long time. I feel the emphasis in macrobiotics on reaching balance in one's life gives much depth to this way of eating. So although I can tell you all there is definitely kosher marshmallows and there were days my kids would love " roasting " them over the gas stove (what a mess) and even better over campfires, the realization of all the junk (chemicals and loads and loads of sugar) I just can't get myself to buy it anymore. As far as gelatin, agar agar is wonderful - you can make sweet jelled food with fruit and fruit juice or do aspics with vegetables. Agar agar is found in health food stores. I highly highly advise you to look up a recipe, as too much agar agar can make it unedible and too little, it won't jell. It is heartening to see there is so much activity on this list for vegetariasnism is definitely the right direction. But for myself, I buy very little in the way of ready foods and many of the other foods mentioned also don't fit how I eat. My dream at the moment is to have an organic vegetable garden where most of my produce can be freshly picked just before cooking. If anyone can advise of a site that would be helpful in this, I'd most appreciate it. Thank you. Klara gzuckier <gzuckier wrote: This is true. And unfortunately, and confusingly, kosher rules don't count fish as meat, so it would be marked P or Pareve, just like the vegetable fake gelatin. The only way is to read the ingredients list. But the fact is, I have never actually seen fish-based kosher (or unkosher for that matter) gelatin for sale in stores, just the vegetable stuff. On the other hand, what they use for gelatin in kosher marshmallows, I cannot say. I'm not even sure vegetable gums would work in a marshmallow, when it came to toasting them etc. It's like veggie hot dogs; they can be pretty convincing as boiled hot dogs, but grilled they don't come out the same at all. Actually, I've never seen a kosher marshmallow either, but like the yeti, many people report having seen them. , " Thompson, Debra lee " <Debrathompson@f...> wrote: > Yes, but some kosher gelatins are made from fish parts. Not all are > vegan. > > > > Debra Lee Thompson > > Analyst - Mortgage I > > First Horizon Home Loans Corporation > > debrathompson@f... <debrathompson@f...> > > 214.492.7402 > > > Jiraph Wirpel [wirpel] > Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:56 AM > > Re: The scoop on gelatin/gelatine > and marshmallows > > > > Kosher food stores have no-hoof " jello. " > ===== > > > Most indian markets carry vegan " jello " made of agar. > It's great...I often use it to make vegan " jello > shots " for their birthdays. > > > ===== > " The cat did not respond. She did not believe in paraphrasing > anybody. If > people pursued this same feline wisdom, there'd be a lot fewer > misunderstandings. " > From Kinky Friedman's > Meanwhile, Back at the Ranch > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 Thanks Debra, That was sweet of you. Yes, I've been on that site for a while and like it very much and yes, there is plenty of great reading on the web on macrobiotics. And yes, it's always harder when the rest of the family doesn't go along, but that's part of living. I've kept it up the best I can despite not having others in my family eat as I do, but we've worked out our own compromises. I no longer cook the meat diet my husband eats - it's just fortunate that he enjoys cooking. Problem is the competition the kids must feel. Well, I've come to the conclusion what I put in my body is my responsibility and an important one and I can't control others. And hopefully at some point all the things I " taught " the kids will reappear in their lives. Klara " Thompson, Debra lee " <Debrathompson wrote: Klara - I just did a quick search on using on " macrobiotic " and found a number of dedicated groups there - one of them listed this link: http://www.rosanna.com/macrolist/ I hope you find what you're looking for - I tried macrobiotics year ago, but couldn't get the rest of the household to go that way, so I finally gave up. It was too tiring to cook two full meals all at once every time. I do still love the veg sushi I used to make:) I think that was my fave:) Debra Lee Thompson Analyst - Mortgage I First Horizon Home Loans Corporation debrathompson <debrathompson 214.492.7402 Klara LeVine [klara_levine] Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:08 PM Re: Re: The scoop on gelatin/gelatine and marshmallows I'm in a bit of a quandry - I just joined, but realize like my other forays in vegetarian societies it doesn't quite fit my needs. I follow a macrobiotic diet and love it more than you can imagine. Previous to macro days I did Fit for Life and was a big advocate of vegetarianism for a very long time. I feel the emphasis in macrobiotics on reaching balance in one's life gives much depth to this way of eating. So although I can tell you all there is definitely kosher marshmallows and there were days my kids would love " roasting " them over the gas stove (what a mess) and even better over campfires, the realization of all the junk (chemicals and loads and loads of sugar) I just can't get myself to buy it anymore. As far as gelatin, agar agar is wonderful - you can make sweet jelled food with fruit and fruit juice or do aspics with vegetables. Agar agar is found in health food stores. I highly highly advise you to look up a recipe, as too much agar agar can make it unedible and too little, it won't jell. It is heartening to see there is so much activity on this list for vegetariasnism is definitely the right direction. But for myself, I buy very little in the way of ready foods and many of the other foods mentioned also don't fit how I eat. My dream at the moment is to have an organic vegetable garden where most of my produce can be freshly picked just before cooking. If anyone can advise of a site that would be helpful in this, I'd most appreciate it. Thank you. Klara gzuckier <gzuckier wrote: This is true. And unfortunately, and confusingly, kosher rules don't count fish as meat, so it would be marked P or Pareve, just like the vegetable fake gelatin. The only way is to read the ingredients list. But the fact is, I have never actually seen fish-based kosher (or unkosher for that matter) gelatin for sale in stores, just the vegetable stuff. On the other hand, what they use for gelatin in kosher marshmallows, I cannot say. I'm not even sure vegetable gums would work in a marshmallow, when it came to toasting them etc. It's like veggie hot dogs; they can be pretty convincing as boiled hot dogs, but grilled they don't come out the same at all. Actually, I've never seen a kosher marshmallow either, but like the yeti, many people report having seen them. , " Thompson, Debra lee " <Debrathompson@f...> wrote: > Yes, but some kosher gelatins are made from fish parts. Not all are > vegan. > > > > Debra Lee Thompson > > Analyst - Mortgage I > > First Horizon Home Loans Corporation > > debrathompson@f... <debrathompson@f...> > > 214.492.7402 > > > Jiraph Wirpel [wirpel] > Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:56 AM > > Re: The scoop on gelatin/gelatine > and marshmallows > > > > Kosher food stores have no-hoof " jello. " > ===== > > > Most indian markets carry vegan " jello " made of agar. > It's great...I often use it to make vegan " jello > shots " for their birthdays. > > > ===== > " The cat did not respond. She did not believe in paraphrasing > anybody. If > people pursued this same feline wisdom, there'd be a lot fewer > misunderstandings. " > From Kinky Friedman's > Meanwhile, Back at the Ranch > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 That's actually very likely - My husband asks for healthful, vegetarian things his mom made while he was growing up that he absolutely hated back then! Eventually, they do " come home. " Debra Lee Thompson Analyst - Mortgage I First Horizon Home Loans Corporation debrathompson 214.492.7402 Klara LeVine [klara_levine] Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:49 PM RE: Re: Klara Thanks Debra, That was sweet of you. Yes, I've been on that site for a while and like it very much and yes, there is plenty of great reading on the web on macrobiotics. And yes, it's always harder when the rest of the family doesn't go along, but that's part of living. I've kept it up the best I can despite not having others in my family eat as I do, but we've worked out our own compromises. I no longer cook the meat diet my husband eats - it's just fortunate that he enjoys cooking. Problem is the competition the kids must feel. Well, I've come to the conclusion what I put in my body is my responsibility and an important one and I can't control others. And hopefully at some point all the things I " taught " the kids will reappear in their lives. Klara " Thompson, Debra lee " <Debrathompson wrote: Klara - I just did a quick search on using on " macrobiotic " and found a number of dedicated groups there - one of them listed this link: http://www.rosanna.com/macrolist/ I hope you find what you're looking for - I tried macrobiotics year ago, but couldn't get the rest of the household to go that way, so I finally gave up. It was too tiring to cook two full meals all at once every time. I do still love the veg sushi I used to make:) I think that was my fave:) Debra Lee Thompson Analyst - Mortgage I First Horizon Home Loans Corporation debrathompson <debrathompson 214.492.7402 Klara LeVine [klara_levine] Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:08 PM Re: Re: The scoop on gelatin/gelatine and marshmallows I'm in a bit of a quandry - I just joined, but realize like my other forays in vegetarian societies it doesn't quite fit my needs. I follow a macrobiotic diet and love it more than you can imagine. Previous to macro days I did Fit for Life and was a big advocate of vegetarianism for a very long time. I feel the emphasis in macrobiotics on reaching balance in one's life gives much depth to this way of eating. So although I can tell you all there is definitely kosher marshmallows and there were days my kids would love " roasting " them over the gas stove (what a mess) and even better over campfires, the realization of all the junk (chemicals and loads and loads of sugar) I just can't get myself to buy it anymore. As far as gelatin, agar agar is wonderful - you can make sweet jelled food with fruit and fruit juice or do aspics with vegetables. Agar agar is found in health food stores. I highly highly advise you to look up a recipe, as too much agar agar can make it unedible and too little, it won't jell. It is heartening to see there is so much activity on this list for vegetariasnism is definitely the right direction. But for myself, I buy very little in the way of ready foods and many of the other foods mentioned also don't fit how I eat. My dream at the moment is to have an organic vegetable garden where most of my produce can be freshly picked just before cooking. If anyone can advise of a site that would be helpful in this, I'd most appreciate it. Thank you. Klara gzuckier <gzuckier wrote: This is true. And unfortunately, and confusingly, kosher rules don't count fish as meat, so it would be marked P or Pareve, just like the vegetable fake gelatin. The only way is to read the ingredients list. But the fact is, I have never actually seen fish-based kosher (or unkosher for that matter) gelatin for sale in stores, just the vegetable stuff. On the other hand, what they use for gelatin in kosher marshmallows, I cannot say. I'm not even sure vegetable gums would work in a marshmallow, when it came to toasting them etc. It's like veggie hot dogs; they can be pretty convincing as boiled hot dogs, but grilled they don't come out the same at all. Actually, I've never seen a kosher marshmallow either, but like the yeti, many people report having seen them. , " Thompson, Debra lee " <Debrathompson@f...> wrote: > Yes, but some kosher gelatins are made from fish parts. Not all are > vegan. > > > > Debra Lee Thompson > > Analyst - Mortgage I > > First Horizon Home Loans Corporation > > debrathompson@f... <debrathompson@f...> > > 214.492.7402 > > > Jiraph Wirpel [wirpel] > Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:56 AM > > Re: The scoop on gelatin/gelatine > and marshmallows > > > > Kosher food stores have no-hoof " jello. " > ===== > > > Most indian markets carry vegan " jello " made of agar. > It's great...I often use it to make vegan " jello > shots " for their birthdays. > > > ===== > " The cat did not respond. She did not believe in paraphrasing > anybody. If > people pursued this same feline wisdom, there'd be a lot fewer > misunderstandings. " > From Kinky Friedman's > Meanwhile, Back at the Ranch > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I'm interested in non-hermithood macrobiotics. Sounds like it might be worth a few thoughts here as well??? there are at least three of us , " Thompson, Debra lee " <Debrathompson@f...> wrote: >I tried macrobiotics year ago, > but couldn't get the rest of the household to go that way, so I finally > gave up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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