Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 At 05:05 AM 1/13/2005, you wrote: >Who else would rather not have to eat around people >who feel fine shoveling warmed dead flesh into their >digestive system? >I have a friend who I share meals with often. A long >time ago, he asked me not to refer to eating meat as Judge and be judged, or live and let live? I suggest the latter is far better way to treat a self described friend. Nutritional proseletyzing is as annoying in either direction, and as likely to succeed. And its no way to treat a friend. Respect eachothers opinions, however different they might be. And if you really can't stomach watching someone eat carnivorously, then choose your friends more carefully, ludicrous as that sounds for the basis for friendship. " Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Well put! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I have only had one person treat me the way you describe. It was at a party. He tried to force little sausages on me. I had to get ugly with him. He made sexual advances to me several times after that. I found out later he was a crack-head. But, I have to admit, that I do not think less of someone for being a meat eater. I tell them that I respect their rights to eat what they feel their body needs. I explain to them that the growth hormones and bacterias in meat products simply aren't agreeable to me. If I know someone very well I might expound and talk about the unpleasant taste of blood, and the disgusting smell of meat putrefaction compared to veggies. Other than that one time, I've had no one " dis " me about being a veggie, on the contrary, they show interest and respect for my convictions. I believe it may be the laid back way that I approach the topic. I'm very non- militant and matter of fact about the whole thing. ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:52:48 -0800 (PST) Jiraph Wirpel Advice / opinions, please! First off, who is veggie miostly for life-is-precious reasons, and slaughter-is-murder? That is how I feel! Who else would rather not have to eat around people who feel fine shoveling warmed dead flesh into their digestive system? I have a friend who I share meals with often. A long time ago, he asked me not to refer to eating meat as using your stomach as a burial ground for decaying flesh! :^) I stopped. But he knows I will not eat meat! And he knows I came from an environment of observing laws of keeping kosher. He teases about offering me pork products. Yesterday, he brought it up. He challanged me that, eating meat is just his posiion in the food web. " Snakes eat rodents, are they vulgar, immoral murderers? " " We have so removed ourselves from the actual killing, " I explained. " If you actually made your own kill, with your own agility, teeth and claws, I might feel differently. " And I contend, he would!. " We are capable of making choices, " I offered. He kept going, challanging me to prove that eating a carrot is any less taking a life than eating a Perdue. Suggestions, please, for when (and why) meat-eaters think they have to defend, and prove somethng to a vegetarian? The all-new My – Get yours free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Great way to handle things, Sherri. If you try to force something on many people, they'll revolt without thinking, no matter whether they agree or not. Having a casual conversation on any subjuct or sharing facts with others even in an indirect fashion tend to work better, imo. Just as we don't like being harped on for ordering a baked potato and salad at a bbq restaurant (been there), they (meat eaters) don't want to be interrogated while about to bite down on a hamburger. There are always better and more effective means to go about it. Sometimes even the more subtle the better, imho. I will probably never become a full-time vegan, however there have been those here that have shared facts about milk and cheeses that on many occasions make me think about. I still cook with dairy on occasion (more cheese than anything), however I rarely...big time rarely...will buy a small carton of milk. I've learned from others (here specifically) that drinking Silk is just as good, if not better, given the flavors they offer. As well, I've learned about several options for other substitutes such as the almond and rice milks and various un-cheese brands. If people aren't aware of options, they'll tend to stick to one thing and remain the same. Shawn , sherrie <sherriesvintiques> wrote: > I have only had one person treat me the way you describe. It was at a party. He tried to force little sausages on me. I had to get ugly with him. He made sexual advances to me several times after that. I found out later he was a crack-head. > > But, I have to admit, that I do not think less of someone for being a meat eater. I tell them that I respect their rights to eat what they feel their body needs. I explain to them that the growth hormones and bacterias in meat products simply aren't agreeable to me. If I know someone very well I might expound and talk about the unpleasant taste of blood, and the disgusting smell of meat putrefaction compared to veggies. Other than that one time, I've had no one " dis " me about being a veggie, on the contrary, they show interest and respect for my convictions. I believe it may be the laid back way that I approach the topic. I'm very non- militant and matter of fact about the whole thing. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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