Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 --- Maria/Chanda <puterwitch wrote: > my mother really takes the cake. parents are > Catholic, and in the Catholic mass they have this > nice tradition of at one point in the mass giving > others the sign of peace I grew up Catholic (though don't attend a Catholic church now) so know all about the sign of peace. A friend said there's a man at her church that just stands up and waves to everyone. Don't know if it's a germ thing or a weird thing or a combination of the two. Though my mother, me and my brother never took the wine because you never know what kind of germs you can get from that cup. Yuck! Jen How can a society that exists on instant mashed potatoes, packaged cake mixes, frozen dinners, and instant cameras teach patience to its young? - Paul Sweeney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 I grew up catholic (no longer) as well... I've heard that the alcohol in the wine kills the germs.. I don't know.! licking shopping carts .. now that's living on the edge! YUCK!!! On Monday, May 16, 2005, at 02:07 PM, Jen Lott wrote: > --- Maria/Chanda <puterwitch wrote: > > > my mother really takes the cake. parents are > > Catholic, and in the Catholic mass they have this > > nice tradition of at one point in the mass giving > > others the sign of peace > > I grew up Catholic (though don't attend a Catholic > church now) so know all about the sign of peace. A > friend said there's a man at her church that just > stands up and waves to everyone. Don't know if it's a > germ thing or a weird thing or a combination of the > two. > > Though my mother, me and my brother never took the > wine because you never know what kind of germs you can > get from that cup. Yuck! > > Jen > > > > How can a society that exists on instant mashed potatoes, packaged > cake mixes, frozen dinners, and instant cameras teach patience to its > young? > - Paul Sweeney > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > <image.tiff> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 LOL, I was never offered wine at church, I missed that, and back in the day I faintly remember sharing vodka and grapefruit juice with everyone around me at the who's last tour of 1981 I think it was. What a scam! it wasn't their last tour, and I got real sick a few days after the community vodka and grapefruit juice.... couldda been that, or maybe it was just the sunshine??? tee hee - Jen Lott Monday, May 16, 2005 2:07 PM Sign of Peace - Hi Chanda --- Maria/Chanda <puterwitch wrote: > my mother really takes the cake. parents are > Catholic, and in the Catholic mass they have this > nice tradition of at one point in the mass giving > others the sign of peace I grew up Catholic (though don't attend a Catholic church now) so know all about the sign of peace. A friend said there's a man at her church that just stands up and waves to everyone. Don't know if it's a germ thing or a weird thing or a combination of the two. Though my mother, me and my brother never took the wine because you never know what kind of germs you can get from that cup. Yuck! Jen How can a society that exists on instant mashed potatoes, packaged cake mixes, frozen dinners, and instant cameras teach patience to its young? - Paul Sweeney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 think about it though. We manage to survive with our immune systems. How many times did we " kiss it up to God " in my day, and I remember playing all day in the dirt and with other kids and then some kid would bring out something to eat, and we would eat it, no hand washing. We are still alive. ) Blessings, Chanda - " Jenni Billings " <jenni Monday, May 16, 2005 2:14 PM Re: Sign of Peace - Hi Chanda I grew up catholic (no longer) as well... I've heard that the alcohol in the wine kills the germs.. I don't know.! licking shopping carts .. now that's living on the edge! YUCK!!! On Monday, May 16, 2005, at 02:07 PM, Jen Lott wrote: > --- Maria/Chanda <puterwitch wrote: > > > my mother really takes the cake. parents are > > Catholic, and in the Catholic mass they have this > > nice tradition of at one point in the mass giving > > others the sign of peace > > I grew up Catholic (though don't attend a Catholic > church now) so know all about the sign of peace. A > friend said there's a man at her church that just > stands up and waves to everyone. Don't know if it's a > germ thing or a weird thing or a combination of the > two. > > Though my mother, me and my brother never took the > wine because you never know what kind of germs you can > get from that cup. Yuck! > > Jen > > > > How can a society that exists on instant mashed potatoes, packaged > cake mixes, frozen dinners, and instant cameras teach patience to its > young? > - Paul Sweeney > > > > > > <image.tiff> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 yep, it's real wine! On Monday, May 16, 2005, at 02:14 PM, Jen Lott wrote: > > --- Jenni Billings <jenni wrote: > > > I grew up catholic (no longer) as well... I've heard > > that the alcohol > > in the wine kills the germs.. > > Do they use real alcohol in communion wine? (Bad old > catholic me). > > I still don't trust it...there were always people > coughing all over the place, especially in the winter > time. > > Jen > > How can a society that exists on instant mashed potatoes, packaged > cake mixes, frozen dinners, and instant cameras teach patience to its > young? > - Paul Sweeney > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > <image.tiff> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 LOL... the wine is the blood of christ. vodka and grapefruit juice huh... might increase church membership if they passed that around before mass... ha! On Monday, May 16, 2005, at 02:20 PM, Maria/Chanda wrote: > LOL, I was never offered wine at church, I missed that, and back in > the day I faintly remember sharing vodka and grapefruit juice with > everyone around me at the who's last tour of 1981 I think it was. What > a scam! it wasn't their last tour, and I got real sick a few days > after the community vodka and grapefruit juice.... couldda been that, > or maybe it was just the sunshine??? > tee hee > - > Jen Lott > > Monday, May 16, 2005 2:07 PM > Sign of Peace - Hi Chanda > > > --- Maria/Chanda <puterwitch wrote: > > > my mother really takes the cake. parents are > > Catholic, and in the Catholic mass they have this > > nice tradition of at one point in the mass giving > > others the sign of peace > > I grew up Catholic (though don't attend a Catholic > church now) so know all about the sign of peace. A > friend said there's a man at her church that just > stands up and waves to everyone. Don't know if it's a > germ thing or a weird thing or a combination of the > two. > > Though my mother, me and my brother never took the > wine because you never know what kind of germs you can > get from that cup. Yuck! > > Jen > > > > How can a society that exists on instant mashed potatoes, packaged > cake mixes, frozen dinners, and instant cameras teach patience to its > young? > - Paul Sweeney > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > ----- > ------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 actually,, the body needs to be exposed to germs in order to fight them! it builds immunity! =) On Monday, May 16, 2005, at 02:21 PM, Maria/Chanda wrote: > think about it though. We manage to survive with our immune systems. > How > many times did we " kiss it up to God " in my day, and I remember > playing all > day in the dirt and with other kids and then some kid would bring out > something to eat, and we would eat it, no hand washing. We are still > alive. > ) > > Blessings, > Chanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 absolutely. <putting on Dr. suit> most bacteria and viruses cannot be gotten twice due to our immunity. This is why we do get sick from kids but we don't get sick as often because most of the stuff they get we have already had. <looks at self in mirror in Dr.'s suit, I look good.> tee hee silly - Jenni Billings Monday, May 16, 2005 3:01 PM Re: Sign of Peace - Hi Chanda actually,, the body needs to be exposed to germs in order to fight them! it builds immunity! =) On Monday, May 16, 2005, at 02:21 PM, Maria/Chanda wrote: > think about it though. We manage to survive with our immune systems. > How > many times did we " kiss it up to God " in my day, and I remember > playing all > day in the dirt and with other kids and then some kid would bring out > something to eat, and we would eat it, no hand washing. We are still > alive. > ) > > Blessings, > Chanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I too grew up Catholic and am no longer...my fav part of mass was the sign of peace - we weren't allowed to look around/behind us during service (you know sit still not fidgety) and it was a great time to see who was there and say hello and I always loved visiting with people. That & I loved putting the money in the bowl when it came by...don't know why that was fun? Think of those germs though...and communion, they used to put it in our mouths back then, the hand thing came around about then, but not every one did it till I was a teen... ha, ha...haven't thought about mass in a long time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 , Jenni Billings <jenni@b...> wrote: > LOL... the wine is the blood of christ. > yeah...so how does that work for vegetarians (my hubby likes to ponder that and the body thing)...yeah I know it is symbolic, but still... ick..no offense...but it is kind of icky... m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 , Jenni Billings <jenni@b...> wrote: > actually,, the body needs to be exposed to germs in order to fight them! > it builds immunity! > Thats what I remind myself when I spot my middle son's hands as he's eating and there is still dirt under the nails despite washing...he is like " pig pen " from the Snoopy strip, bless his heart!! m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 Mel, how about kneeling and doing the stations of the cross? Did your back kill you at the end? LOL This is funny. I used to bleach my hair and the nuns were on me all the time. I told them it was natural. They said they would call my Mom in to speak with Sister Superior. Well, Mom bleached her hair too and she was prepared. The Sister said, Oh my it's nice to meet you and I see Donna got her lovely platinum blond hair from her Swedish Mom................hahahaha I was very bad in Catholic school. I made Dennis the Menace look like an angel. I was hit with the ruler, wore gum on my nose and sat under the nuns desk more times than you can count......LOL Donna melissa_hopp <hoppmel wrote: I too grew up Catholic and am no longer...my fav part of mass was the sign of peace - we weren't allowed to look around/behind us during service (you know sit still not fidgety) and it was a great time to see who was there and say hello and I always loved visiting with people. That & I loved putting the money in the bowl when it came by...don't know why that was fun? Think of those germs though...and communion, they used to put it in our mouths back then, the hand thing came around about then, but not every one did it till I was a teen... ha, ha...haven't thought about mass in a long time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 > > LOL... the wine is the blood of christ. > yeah...so how does that work for vegetarians (my hubby likes to ponder > that and the body thing)...yeah I know it is symbolic, but still... > ick..no offense...but it is kind of icky... Hmmm, I never thought about it that way... but I guess to me Christ is more important. And since it physically is still wine (though I'm sure not veg wine) - even with the transfiguration (Catholics believe it IS, not that it's simply symbolic) they could test it and it would still be seen as wine - I think I'll let it be! All kinds of mind-benders in a vegetarian world, huh? I bet a meat-eater would never have thought about it either... Thanks for the interesting perspective, Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 what I think it means is the ethereal body in the sense of taking god into yourself, which is contradictory to a lot of Christian dogma funny enough as it is. in my religion we do something similar. Blessing,s Chanda - melissa_hopp Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:49 AM Re: Sign of Peace - Hi Chanda , Jenni Billings <jenni@b...> wrote: > LOL... the wine is the blood of christ. > yeah...so how does that work for vegetarians (my hubby likes to ponder that and the body thing)...yeah I know it is symbolic, but still... ick..no offense...but it is kind of icky... m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I don't know... I used to be a meat eater and always had a bit of an ick feeling about the body/ blood thing... my parents sort of rolled their eyes at me! I think I got a lot of that as a child however... =) jenni On Tuesday, May 17, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Amy wrote: > > > LOL... the wine is the blood of christ. > > yeah...so how does that work for vegetarians (my hubby likes to > ponder > > that and the body thing)...yeah I know it is symbolic, but still... > > ick..no offense...but it is kind of icky... > > Hmmm, I never thought about it that way... but I guess to me Christ is > more important. And since it physically is still wine (though I'm > sure not veg wine) - even with the transfiguration (Catholics believe > it IS, not that it's simply symbolic) they could test it and it would > still be seen as wine - I think I'll let it be! > > All kinds of mind-benders in a vegetarian world, huh? I bet a > meat-eater would never have thought about it either... > > Thanks for the interesting perspective, > Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 > I don't know... I used to be a meat eater and always had a bit of an > ick feeling about the body/ blood thing... > my parents sort of rolled their eyes at me! > I think I got a lot of that as a child however... =) I stand corrected! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I grew up in the Catholic church, and to me it was a scary place for a kid. I didn't feel warm there. I am not Catholic now, but now I can see some warmth , my daughter is being raised Catholic and her dad is catholic. At least now they have this thing where the kids can go off separately and they do more kid friendly stuff like sing songs etc. I wonder what the host is made of? is it vegetarian? I wonder if anyone is allergic to the host? Blessings, Chanda - melissa_hopp Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:43 AM Re: Sign of Peace - Hi Chanda I too grew up Catholic and am no longer...my fav part of mass was the sign of peace - we weren't allowed to look around/behind us during service (you know sit still not fidgety) and it was a great time to see who was there and say hello and I always loved visiting with people. That & I loved putting the money in the bowl when it came by...don't know why that was fun? Think of those germs though...and communion, they used to put it in our mouths back then, the hand thing came around about then, but not every one did it till I was a teen... ha, ha...haven't thought about mass in a long time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 --- Maria/Chanda <puterwitch wrote: > I wonder what the host is made of? is it vegetarian? >I wonder if anyone is allergic to the host? It is made of wheat. There was a whole stink last year with a church in NJ where a child making first communion was allergic to wheat and he wanted a host without wheat. I don't remember what ended up happening, but it caused a big stink for awhile because a host without wheat was blasphemy, blah blah blah. Jen Every now and again take a good look at something not made with hands, a mountain, a star, the turn of a stream. There will come to you wisdom and patience and solace and, above all, the assurance that you are not alone in the world. - Sidney Lovett Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 > It is made of wheat. There was a whole stink last year > with a church in NJ where a child making first > communion was allergic to wheat and he wanted a host > without wheat. I don't remember what ended up > happening, but it caused a big stink for awhile > because a host without wheat was blasphemy, blah blah > blah. > > Jen It would be interesting to know how people allergic to " the host " manage...very interesting... I would have guessed rice, it reminds me of that candy rice paper stuff! m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 I don't remember exactly, but there are either scriptural or traditional reasons for the specifics of the host. Eastern Orthodoxy also has specific rules. I do remember the controversy, but I don't know how it turned out. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 She wasn't allowed to take communion I believe. Something about the definition of bread. I'm not Catholic anymore for a lot of reasons but this just was icing on the cake, but then, it's their religion and their choice. I was raised Catholic and I really don't get it, personally, but then some people like oranges, too, and I don't. Veronica At 04:29 PM 5/18/2005 +0000, you wrote: > > It is made of wheat. There was a whole stink last year > > with a church in NJ where a child making first > > communion was allergic to wheat and he wanted a host > > without wheat. I don't remember what ended up > > happening, but it caused a big stink for awhile > > because a host without wheat was blasphemy, blah blah > > blah. > > > > Jen > > >It would be interesting to know how people allergic to " the host " >manage...very interesting... I would have guessed rice, it reminds me >of that candy rice paper stuff! > >m > > > > >---------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 What it is , or what the church says it is is that the rules of the church are not to be bent at all. It is said that the host is made of wheat. They cannot change that because they cannot change any of the rules that are over a thousand years old. As far out as this seems to me, I can understand that somewhat, even though it seems silly not to be able to change anything with changing times, but what grabs me then is how come there used to be a " no meat on Friday " rule, and now it's changed to no meat on Friday during lent only. If that can be changed, how come we can't change the host? Blessings, Chanda - Andrew Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:48 PM Re: Re: Sign of Peace - Hi Chanda I don't remember exactly, but there are either scriptural or traditional reasons for the specifics of the host. Eastern Orthodoxy also has specific rules. I do remember the controversy, but I don't know how it turned out. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Chanda...you are right, there are many " rules " in the Catholic church that did change & sometimes do bend....latin mass, divorce, just to mention a few...interesting... We could have a whole 'nother discussion group of former Catholics...would be interesting!! m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 > I grew up in the Catholic church, and to me it was a scary place for a kid. I didn't feel warm there. I am not Catholic now, but now I can see some warmth , my daughter is being raised Catholic and her dad is catholic. At least now they have this thing where the kids can go off separately and they do more kid friendly stuff like sing songs etc. I wonder what the host is made of? is it vegetarian? I wonder if anyone is allergic to the host? At our current church we have regular host (I think it's wheat) and one for those with celiac or gluten intolerances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Church (Catholic) was very warm for me as a kid. Our church was kid-friendly. Don't know if it is now. As I will soon be fully Orthodox, I'll find out about their bread and share what I find here. Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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