Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Amy <sandpiperhiker wrote: I've been reducing my sugar intake over the last 6 months... http://www.bvstx.org/ Is refined sugar vegan? It depends on how you define 'vegan.' Refined sugars do not contain any animal products, and so by an ingredients-based definition of vegan, refined sugar is vegan. However, some refined sugar is processed with animal bone char. The charcoal is used to remove color, impurities, and minerals from sugar. The charcoal is not 'in' the sugar, but is used in the process as as a filter. Thus by a process-based definition of vegan, refined sugar may not be considered vegan. For those who would prefer not to use refined sugar, there are several alternatives: raw, turbinado, beet sugar, succanat, date sugar, fructose, barley malt, rice syrup, corn syrup, molasses, and maple syrup. However, if one accepts a process-based definition of vegan, then many other familiar products would also not be considered vegan. For instance, steel and vulcanized rubber are produced using animal fats and, in many areas, groundwater and surface water is filtered through bone charcoal filters. So, is a box of pasta that contains no animal products, but has transported to the store in a steel truck on rubber wheels and then cooked in boiling water at your home, vegan? Under a process-based definition, possibly not. But according to such a definition, it would be difficult to find any products in this country that are vegan. Me, David, the " non-cook! " :›) Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 you've also just illuminated one of the many reasons I prefer not to say I'm vegan (even though in my diet, my clothes, my lifestyle.. vegan is as vegan does? i am vegan...) =) jenni David wrote... But according to such a definition, it would be difficult to find any products in this country that are vegan. On 8/5/05, David Penelope <ne14anap wrote: > > Amy <sandpiperhiker wrote: > > I've been reducing my sugar intake over the last 6 months... > > > > http://www.bvstx.org/ > > Is refined sugar vegan? It depends on how you define 'vegan.' Refined > sugars do not contain any animal products, and so by an ingredients-based > definition of vegan, refined sugar is vegan. However, some refined sugar is > processed with animal bone char. The charcoal is used to remove color, > impurities, and minerals from sugar. The charcoal is not 'in' the sugar, but > is used in the process as as a filter. Thus by a process-based definition of > vegan, refined sugar may not be considered vegan. For those who would prefer > not to use refined sugar, there are several alternatives: raw, turbinado, > beet sugar, succanat, date sugar, fructose, barley malt, rice syrup, corn > syrup, molasses, and maple syrup. > > However, if one accepts a process-based definition of vegan, then many > other familiar products would also not be considered vegan. For instance, > steel and vulcanized rubber are produced using animal fats and, in many > areas, groundwater and surface water is filtered through bone charcoal > filters. So, is a box of pasta that contains no animal products, but has > transported to the store in a steel truck on rubber wheels and then cooked > in boiling water at your home, vegan? Under a process-based definition, > possibly not. But according to such a definition, it would be difficult to > find any products in this country that are vegan. > > > > Me, David, the " non-cook! " > :›) > > > Start your day with - make it your home page > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 I agree, David... if you live in the current world with modern conveniences, as much as you try you can be a vegan purist... you wouldn't be able to ride a bus or drive a car, use a film camera.... so many things... so for me it's all about reducing consumption overall, as much as possible. You keep saying " non cook " and you're gonna get stick with it! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 > I agree, David... if you live in the current world with modern > conveniences, as much as you try you can be a vegan purist... er, *can't* be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 Amy <sandpiperhiker wrote: You keep saying " non cook " and you're gonna get stick with it! ;-) I was called a " non cook " in a post recipes group. Made me laugh. Made it my " signature. " Stuck with it? It is now my identity. Me, David, the " non-cook! " :›) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2005 Report Share Posted August 5, 2005 *lol* Well, I'm glad you have a sense of humor about it - it certainly wasn't meant in anything other than fun! :-) Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 This is part of a post from Dr. Bhate in another forum I belong to. Jaggery is a very good tasting and healthy Indian brown sugar. GB · Molasses and jaggery - A leftover sludge of the sugar making process. While teeming with minerals and vitamins, it contains more calcium than milk, more iron than eggs, and more potassium than any other food; all the minerals are highly bio-available. It's great for problems of anemia. Tastes almost like honey, without slightly bitter aftertaste. Same properties also for organic jaggery. This jaggery is about thrice costlier than white sugar. Available in Mumbai. The brown sugar, better known as Khandsari sugar is inferior to jaggery, but convenient to use. · Dates: Slightly sticky fresh dates are a good tonic for children, pregnant/nursing mothers, petite kids, as already discussed by author in various other posts on ayurveda. Dried dates can be powdered for adding to milk when boiling, just before bedtime to make a good tranquiliser. · Dried Black grapes: They are used in many herbal remedies and when soaked for 8 hours and taken, are great for anemia. Tablets made from pounded mixture of dried black grapes, haritaki and ardusi powder is a coagulant, helpful to stop nosebleed, menstrual and piles bleeding. A jam made from these grapes is Drakshavaleha, useful for pregnant women to stop vomits and obtain iron for foetus. Licorice is another herb, useful to boost immunity as well restore hormones. · Honey: There already exists a full file honey.pps in group files, it can be given to infants also, if diluted in water. Please ignore some of the comments on the above site that it should not be given to babies. · Blackberries: These are mentioned here since they are a diabetic medicine, as well as good for curing jaundice. · Aloe Vera: Use only if you have a plant in your home. Take with a little turmeric and Saindhav salt on an empty stomach early in the morning. Wait for an hour before taking anything else. This is a good remedy for Jaundice, Hepatitis, Cirrhosis. The role played by sugars in cellular communication has attracted a large amount of scientific research in last decade (see glycoscience.org). Studies on Glyco-sugars is a relatively new science with considerable clinical research behind it. However, ayurvedic acharyas have known this topic fully for many centuries. A number of remedies were developed using honey, dates and raisins, combinations of haritaki, ginger root and jaggery etc. If a mother finds her breast milk supply reducing, she will feed jaggery solution in warm water to the baby and take milk+dates for herself. Gurubandhu If you cannot see God in all, You cannot see God at all. Yogi Bhajan Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 I LOVE DATES! I make date bread and spread the Tofutti cream cheese on top. Pure bliss! I have to stop myself from eating the dates before I toss into the batter. Thank you for all this information. I really appreciate it. Donna Guru Khalsa <greatyoga wrote: This is part of a post from Dr. Bhate in another forum I belong to. Jaggery is a very good tasting and healthy Indian brown sugar. GB · Dates: Slightly sticky fresh dates are a good tonic for children, pregnant/nursing mothers, petite kids, as already discussed by author in various other posts on ayurveda. Dried dates can be powdered for adding to milk when boiling, just before bedtime to make a good tranquiliser. .. Gurubandhu " I guarantee you; this place will blow your mind. " Source: Psychedelic Shack - Norman Whitfield New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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