good thing I like veggies, huh?

July 21, 2006

I am new to the group and diabetic, but I also suffer from gout,

thyroid disease, hypertension, depression, arthritis, and am

allergic to the rx that they usually give so you can eat relatively

normally. Soooo, I have to avoid (translates don't eat this unless

you like pain) all meat, poultry, seafood, all beans (including soy

beans from which most veggie burgers are made), all peas, mushrooms,

asparagus, spinach, cauliflower and any other food that has purines

in it or that basically has any taste. That leaves um, let's

see . . . lettuce and not much else (slight exaggeration, of

course) It is complicated, because the diabetic diet seems to be

diametrically opposed to the gout diet. I can't be a real

vegetarian because I can't/shouldn't eat some of the foods that you

substitute for meat. I am also clinically positive for Lupus as

well as have degenerate joint disease all through my spine. It was

thought that I also had pernicious anemia, but it has been

determined that it is an absorption problem and not actually

pernicious anemia. I guess that's a good thing.

I found a recipe for burgers that I want to try that uses ground up

veggies, but my husband won't eat the way I should and I am NOT

cooking two meals every night!

For anyone who may not know, the gout diet says 50%+ of your diet

should be carbs, but I have to count/limit those for the diabetes.

Gout says avoid whole grains and diabetes say avoid white flour.

I told Chanda that I joke and say I am on a medication diet because

I take 19 pills a day, not counting pain meds. I've not found much

that addresses these two medical issues at the same time so any

ideas/suggestions that anyone has will be appreciated.

Linda

July 22, 2006

Oy. I hear you on the pill diet. I'm on that too and and ()(** & ^ & *^% tired of

it. (Wasn't there a song about a million years ago, one pill to wake you up,

one pill....) Off the top of my head, you REALLY need a nutritionist who has

experience in medical diets and is pro vegetarian. The second thing that hits

(ok, third, because you and I have really similar histories), is that I am

willing to bet your body is so toxic from all the meds that it is making things

worse. Yeah, like I am telling you something you don't already know.

So, to address what I can. Yes, you can make 2 dinners, just make either his

or yours way ahead of time and freeze, toss in the microwave and Bob's your

uncle. (Actually Bob was my father but...)

Yeah, pain in the neck (and isn't that fun), but you need nutrition and it

doesn't sound like there is anyone around there that is going to do it for you.

Can you have seeds (sesame, sunflower, pepita?) or nuts (peanuts, almonds, etc)

What are you doing for protein? (I use whey protein shakes for much of mine

since I only have a 20 cc pouch not a stomach.)

Do they have you on a good vitamin and mineral supplement or have they just

thrown prescriptions at you and basically said " Pay at the window, next patient

please. " As a person who was in clinical malnutrition with protein deficiency,

vitamin deficiency, etc, because my docs gave me the meds and no idea on how to

eat, after reading your e-mail I suspected it wouldn't be long before you were

nutritionally deficient.

I hope someone on the list can help you out. Best thing I can do is be

supportive and warm hugs and help in kitchen/cooking logistics.

Veggies good. Pain BAD. Hugs, Jeanne in Georgia (lacto-ovo veggie for a bit

over 20 years)

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