Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Hey there, I got on the phone with a friend so I could have some support in eating salad again!! It was fine. Like everything anticipation and fear are much stronger than reality. I am sure my body will adjust to eating raw. It adjusted to eating junk just fine so I am sure it can stand healthy too!! LOL!! And I will handle the emotional stuff as it comes up. I was just sharing where I was/am, needing emotional support. It took me awhile to get used to exercising when I first started - lots of emotional stuff around that too. I imagine this will be similar, but with a lot less emotional stuff as I have done tons of healing. I have not digested nuts well in the past so did not include them in the raw diet for me. AND I eat a lot of fats in my every day diet when I am not eating so much raw. So for me, it was a drastic reduction in fats and a reduction in simple carbs. The combo plus other stuff I was going through was overwhelming. Like I said in an earlier email,I will do it slower this time. Walking this path laughingly one step at a time, I AM Silon The Down to Earth Spiritual Healer and Intuitive http://down2earthspirit.com Sign up for monthly channeled articles and intuited information at Down2earthspiritstuff Mail for Mobile Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 [down2earthspirit] Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:16 AM Re: [Raw Food] Relearning to eat Well, I was on my way to 80% raw when my inner child completely threw a tantrum about the lack of fat in my diet. That is why I was so intrigued by these comments. Plus diebetes runs in the family and I have experienced hypoglycemia in my lifetime. I actually didn't miss the sugar (surprise) as much as I thought, but I had an very strong emotional reaction to the lack of fat and was not able to continue eating so much raw. I may have had a physical reaction to but the emotional was so strong, couldn't tell. AND that was only after 2 weeks. Now I feel panic everyt ime I think of going back to a diet so high in raw. I can't even make myself eat the lettuce I have in the fridge and I don't have the extra money to waste food. SIGH!!! I guess I will do some more inner work around it and try it slower this time. ___ Diana of Dewberry Hill [cozad76078] Tuesday, July 12, 2005 5:00 PM Re: [Raw Food] Relearning to eat , perhaps if you would consider that your body will get used to the raw diet...then your mind may also be put at rest. During the first week or two of the raw diet, I felt low in energy and weak and was concerned that I'd lose too much weight. I was very faithful for three months to 99% raw. After a couple of weeks I realized that nuts, avocados and good virgin oils were plenty of fat to give me energy. I felt great, was thin and sexy but not too thin as my body was adjusting to the raw. Suddenly I had a serious emotional trauma in my personal life (not at all related to raw foods) and I couldn't eat...so got too thin. To put weight back on and soothe myself, I ate farm fresh quiche and heavy cooked " health " foods. I put weight back on very fast and then put on my 10 pounds pre-raw which made me feel like a piggy, got sick again like I was pre-raw...and had migraines again. Now going back on raw again is NOT like starting over because I know I will soon feel well again and get into my slimmer clothes. Your body will adjust to raw after two weeks or so. I get tempted with cooked foods and backslide but always pay such a heavy price for the " over the palate thrill " , that it's not worth the ensuing suffering. Once you really stick with raw for a season and see how good it is, you will want to go back. Cooked is suffering and an early grave. I eat feta cheese, drink kefir and indulge in one boiled egg a week so don't feel too deprived. Oh, a small dollop of potato salad on top of my Jasons " to-go " salads. That's it! ___ Kristi Swanson [kswanson] Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:10 AM Re: [Raw Food] Relearning to eat The same *exact * experience here the first few times I went raw! Then I let myself eat as many avocados and coconuts (I'm not too hip on most nuts) as I wanted, and I naturally began to rely on them less... ________ Greetings to all! In every sharing of information in this thread, there is considerable missing information. But please do not delude yourselves into thinking that eating more fat solved anything, it only provides a treatment for a symptom. This is a transitioning issue, confusing because it is multifaceted, involving both physical and emotional factors. And there is a profound need for knowledge. I am planning to offer some such information in August via some free teleclasses (more information coming soon), and you may wish to consider signing up for Doug and Frederic's upcoming teleclasses. From the information provided, my sense is that each of you underate severely on fruit during your " failed " forays into RF, as this is almost universally the case with uncoached beginners approaching a high-water, high-fruit RF lifestyle. Eventually, one's system simply explodes into a craving frenzy. This occurs frequently and predictably. That none of you seems to have found a way to stabilize with RF strongly supports this suggestion. The fats you now consume may satisfy your body's need for caloric intak, but ONLY a great preponderance of high-water-content foods can satisfy your body's generalized need for nutrients, particularly over time.You may like your new body shape, but body shape does not equate with body composition, nor does fitness equate with health-we learn repeatedly of brilliant athletes keeling over. These are only two among many indicators of health. Eventually, energy will likely diminish, and " new " and " unexplained " symptoms will likely appear. Further, it is extremely unlikely that any of you has experienced " a strong emotional reaction to a lack of fat. " This would imply some severe and LONG-TERM deficiency, hormonal imbalance, or the like. Such is the nature of self-diagnosis in the absence of knowledge and in the absence of sufficient connection with self to truly listen to AND INTERPRET communications from one's own system. Rather, when one begins cleaning up one part of one's act, the entire system wishes to join in. In this context, it is VERY common for all sorts of emotional issues to surface, particularly issues that have lain dormant for decades and that have no name or description in your current self-awareness. You may experience significant distress, and this surfacing of underlying old emotions presents a wonderful opportunity to grow -- but ONLY if you embrace what you experience, NOT if you suppress the emotional outpouring with heavy foods. That is nothing more than an act of drugging oneself with fats and indigestible fiber (in the case of nuts and seeds). I am aware that almost no RF teachers deal with this aspect of the transitioning process, other than as lip service. Dr. Tim Trader and I both address such issues directly and specifically. In our view, no one can attain AND SUSTAIN health and vitality without emotional balance and resiliency, sometimes called " poise " in certain NH writings. More to follow if requested. if anyone wishes to communicate privately regarding similar issues, please feel free at <VLinfo VLinfo or 650-938-9025. Best to all, Elchanan -- ------------------------ [ SECURITY NOTICE ] ------------------------ rawfood , rawschool . For your security, vlinfo digitally signed this message on 13 July 2005 at 14:27:23 UTC. 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Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:49 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Relearning to eat I have not digested nuts well in the past so did not include them in the raw diet for me. AND I eat a lot of fats in my every day diet when I am not eating so much raw. So for me, it was a drastic reduction in fats and a reduction in simple carbs. The combo plus other stuff I was going through was overwhelming. Like I said in an earlier email,I will do it slower this time. _____ Don't you mean a dramatic INCREASE in simple carbs? Elchanan * Visit your group " rawfood <rawfood> " on the web. * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 I may have misspoke. I mean a drastic reduction in starches - simple carbs no?? Starches are part of my comfort foods. " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:49 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Relearning to eat I have not digested nuts well in the past so did not include them in the raw diet for me. AND I eat a lot of fats in my every day diet when I am not eating so much raw. So for me, it was a drastic reduction in fats and a reduction in simple carbs. The combo plus other stuff I was going through was overwhelming. Like I said in an earlier email,I will do it slower this time. _____ Don't you mean a dramatic INCREASE in simple carbs? Elchanan * Visit your group " rawfood <rawfood> " on the web. * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:45 PM RE: [Raw Food] Relearning to eat I may have misspoke. I mean a drastic reduction in starches - simple carbs no?? Starches are part of my comfort foods. _____ Hi , Starches are part of everyone's discomfort foods. Notice my language shift there. We all eat such foods to numb out discomfort, not to create real comfort. So I'm just suggesting that if we are more honest with ourselves about it, maybe that will help us stop doing it. The most common craving/binge combinations for people struggling with RF are almost always salt-fat-starch, and people almost always crave such combinations as a result of some manner of undereating. Sometimes -- often -- they undereat total calories. In other cases, they are eating enough calories but far too few high-water-content foods. Much more could be said about this, of course. Thanks for the opportunity for clarity! Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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