Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I am trying to choose a juicer in my quest to go 100% raw. I am being given conflicting advice as to whether I should get a Vitamix or a Omega Juicer. I know need one or the other to get more enzymes, vitamins and minerals into my body. I have been told the Vitamix works so aggressivly that it compromises the enzymes in the juice and you need to drink it within 5 minutes. I was leaning in the Vitamix direction due to the fiber content. I have been told the Omega Juicer works gently and preserves the enzymes as well as exttracting more juice than regular juicers. Any advice on this issue? Many thanks, Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Sometimes I think that I'm juicer!! If I can become fruitarian they say you need very little water cause your body takes the water right out of the fruit!!! - sheriljay rawfood Monday, November 07, 2005 4:27 PM [Raw Food] Vitamix & Omega Juicers:HELP CHOOSING A JUICER? I am trying to choose a juicer in my quest to go 100% raw. I am being given conflicting advice as to whether I should get a Vitamix or a Omega Juicer. I know need one or the other to get more enzymes, vitamins and minerals into my body. I have been told the Vitamix works so aggressivly that it compromises the enzymes in the juice and you need to drink it within 5 minutes. I was leaning in the Vitamix direction due to the fiber content. I have been told the Omega Juicer works gently and preserves the enzymes as well as exttracting more juice than regular juicers. Any advice on this issue? Many thanks, Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Just my two cents - I bought both a K-Tech (Vita-mix) and a green star top of the line juicer. After three years I only use my K-Tech, almost every day. I only used my juicer maybe the first 6 months I purchased it. Now it sits on my shelf. My son also bought a K-Tech and he is not raw and uses it all the time to get more fruit in his son. He makes a lot of fruit smoothies. For my birthday instead of cake he made wonderful smoothies and the grandkids loved them did not miss the cake at all. Linda Sue sheriljay <sheri rawfood Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:27:32 -0000 [Raw Food] Vitamix & Omega Juicers:HELP CHOOSING A JUICER? I am trying to choose a juicer in my quest to go 100% raw. I am being given conflicting advice as to whether I should get a Vitamix or a Omega Juicer. I know need one or the other to get more enzymes, vitamins and minerals into my body. I have been told the Vitamix works so aggressivly that it compromises the enzymes in the juice and you need to drink it within 5 minutes. I was leaning in the Vitamix direction due to the fiber content. I have been told the Omega Juicer works gently and preserves the enzymes as well as exttracting more juice than regular juicers. Any advice on this issue? Many thanks, Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 The Omega is a great juicer. My website has a great review on the 8003 model. http://www.storesonline.com/site/520450/product/8 As far as fiber content....the whole point of juicing is to remove the fiber and add massive amounts of nutrients. If you are incorporating raw foods into your diet, you're getting plenty of fiber. Most Americans are defficient in minerals and their body is in a very acidic state. As you probably know, when a person starts eating raw food their body begins to detox. The more minerals you have in your body, the easier the detox process is because minerals create alkalinity. When I first started eating raw foods, I was drinking 2 quarts of vegetable juice a day. If it's enzyme preservation you are worried about, then I suggest the Green Star. The enzymes will stay intact in the juice for up to three days in the fridge. However, it's more expensive and takes longer to clean. If you're willing to make juice every day, then the Omega is GREAT! All that being said, it's great to have a good blender, too! Paula sheriljay <sheri rawfood Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:27:32 -0000 [Raw Food] Vitamix & Omega Juicers:HELP CHOOSING A JUICER? I am trying to choose a juicer in my quest to go 100% raw. I am being given conflicting advice as to whether I should get a Vitamix or a Omega Juicer. I know need one or the other to get more enzymes, vitamins and minerals into my body. I have been told the Vitamix works so aggressivly that it compromises the enzymes in the juice and you need to drink it within 5 minutes. I was leaning in the Vitamix direction due to the fiber content. I have been told the Omega Juicer works gently and preserves the enzymes as well as exttracting more juice than regular juicers. Any advice on this issue? Many thanks, Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Thanks for that information. Do you know if the Omega Juicer also does wheatgrass or do I need a seperate juicer for that? I went to your website to purchase the omega but it doesn't look like you ship to Canada. Sheri rawfood , Paula Wood <wolfmother1> wrote: > > The Omega is a great juicer. My website has a great review on the 8003 model. http://www.storesonline.com/site/520450/product/8 > > As far as fiber content....the whole point of juicing is to remove the fiber and add massive amounts of nutrients. If you are incorporating raw foods into your diet, you're getting plenty of fiber. Most Americans are defficient in minerals and their body is in a very acidic state. As you probably know, when a person starts eating raw food their body begins to detox. The more minerals you have in your body, the easier the detox process is because minerals create alkalinity. > > When I first started eating raw foods, I was drinking 2 quarts of vegetable juice a day. > > If it's enzyme preservation you are worried about, then I suggest the Green Star. The enzymes will stay intact in the juice for up to three days in the fridge. However, it's more expensive and takes longer to clean. If you're willing to make juice every day, then the Omega is GREAT! > > All that being said, it's great to have a good blender, too! > > Paula > > > sheriljay <sheri@7...> > rawfood > Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:27:32 -0000 > [Raw Food] Vitamix & Omega Juicers:HELP CHOOSING A JUICER? > > > I am trying to choose a juicer in my quest to go 100% raw. I am being > given conflicting advice as to whether I should get a Vitamix or a > Omega Juicer. I know need one or the other to get more enzymes, > vitamins and minerals into my body. > I have been told the Vitamix works so aggressivly that it compromises > the enzymes in the juice and you need to drink it within 5 minutes. > I was leaning in the Vitamix direction due to the fiber content. > I have been told the Omega Juicer works gently and preserves the > enzymes as well as exttracting more juice than regular juicers. > Any advice on this issue? > Many thanks, > Sheri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I have the solostar 2 juicer and it works great. I bought it because it was supposed to juice just about everything including wheatgrass.I haven't done wheatgrass but it is wonderful for romaine. The pulp is nice and dry so it does great with leafy greens. Heather K Do you know if the Omega Juicer also does wheatgrass or do I need a seperate juicer for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Yes, the Omega 8003 does juice wheatgrass. There are extra shipping costs to Canada, but I can ship there. Email me offline if you want to discuss. " This machine does everything that you would want in an all-in-one juicer. It is easy to clean and use, and is very inexpensive for a juicer that can juice leafy greens including wheatgrass, make baby food, ice cream, purees, and pie crusts. It's really a great buy! It has a tremendous customer satisfaction record. " Paula sheriljay <sheri wrote: Thanks for that information. Do you know if the Omega Juicer also does wheatgrass or do I need a seperate juicer for that? I went to your website to purchase the omega but it doesn't look like you ship to Canada. Sheri rawfood , Paula Wood <wolfmother1> wrote: > > The Omega is a great juicer. My website has a great review on the 8003 model. http://www.storesonline.com/site/520450/product/8 > > As far as fiber content....the whole point of juicing is to remove the fiber and add massive amounts of nutrients. If you are incorporating raw foods into your diet, you're getting plenty of fiber. Most Americans are defficient in minerals and their body is in a very acidic state. As you probably know, when a person starts eating raw food their body begins to detox. The more minerals you have in your body, the easier the detox process is because minerals create alkalinity. > > When I first started eating raw foods, I was drinking 2 quarts of vegetable juice a day. > > If it's enzyme preservation you are worried about, then I suggest the Green Star. The enzymes will stay intact in the juice for up to three days in the fridge. However, it's more expensive and takes longer to clean. If you're willing to make juice every day, then the Omega is GREAT! > > All that being said, it's great to have a good blender, too! > > Paula > > > sheriljay <sheri@7...> > rawfood > Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:27:32 -0000 > [Raw Food] Vitamix & Omega Juicers:HELP CHOOSING A JUICER? > > > I am trying to choose a juicer in my quest to go 100% raw. I am being > given conflicting advice as to whether I should get a Vitamix or a > Omega Juicer. I know need one or the other to get more enzymes, > vitamins and minerals into my body. > I have been told the Vitamix works so aggressivly that it compromises > the enzymes in the juice and you need to drink it within 5 minutes. > I was leaning in the Vitamix direction due to the fiber content. > I have been told the Omega Juicer works gently and preserves the > enzymes as well as exttracting more juice than regular juicers. > Any advice on this issue? > Many thanks, > Sheri > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 rawfood , " sheriljay " <sheri@7...> wrote: > > I am trying to choose a juicer in my quest to go 100% raw. I am being > given conflicting advice as to whether I should get a Vitamix or an > Omega Juicer. Well, you will probably get more conflicting advice on this site! :-) People as passionate about food and diet as most raw foodists are, can often be equally passionate about food " equipment. " I think the best thing to do is to get both appliances, but if *I* were forced to choose one or the other, I would get a Vitamix. All anyone can do is give you their reasons for preferring one over the other, and then you have to weigh those same considerations, based on *your* lifestyle and personal preferences. I'm not sure which Omega juicer model you are looking at, but at least one of them is a " masticating " juicer, and, based on some of the other comments in your post, I think this is the one you are considering. No doubt, it is a great machine. *But*, based on my experience owning a gear-type, masticating Green Star juicer that was very similar, they take a *while* to clean (and you pretty much have to clean them after every use). If you have a lot of time, this may not be an issue, and that would be great. So, go for it. So often, though, I really really wanted a fresh juice -- say, before heading off to school or work -- and I simply couldn't, because I rarely had time to make the juice, drink it (neither of those things took very long), AND spend at least 20 minutes taking the blasted thing apart, scrubbing the screen, prying the pulp out of nooks and crannies, washing the dozen or so parts, etc. Yes, it can be a rather " zen " thing -- if you're a monk and don't have anything else to do that day (this does not describe my life). It makes great juice -- GREAT juice -- but the reality *for ME* was that after the initial charm wore off, I rarely rarely used it (and eventually sold it). With the Vitamix, you throw everything in, add a little liquid, run it for a minute, and you're done. To clean it, all you do is pour a little dish soap and warm water in it, run it for another minute, and rinse. Or if you're really pressed for time, you can even just pour some water in it and let it soak til you have time to wash it later. Other than removing the lid, there is nothing to take apart. I doubt that enzyme content is compromised, because, unless you run the Vitamix for several minutes (for most juices, you only need a minute or so), the contents do not get warm. (In fact, ice is a common ingredient, so the finished product is chilled.) It is true, I think, that you should drink the Vitamix juices right away, as opposed to storing them, but I think this is essentially true for any freshly-made juice. But, with cleanup such a non- issue with the Vitamix, why NOT make and drink it fresh each time? I eventually replaced my Green Star with a much easier to clean, more traditional style (non-masticating) juicer (a Breville Juice Fountain, but there are many good brands), for those times when I do want a pure, more nutrient-dense, pulp-free, raw juice (liquid sunshine, I call it). It may not extract as much juice as an Omega or Green Star type gentle masticating juicer, but the greater ease of use makes up for that, in my opinion. Still, though, every time I use *that* juicer, it seems weird to me to dispose of all that great fiber and nutrition in the pulp. So, I use the Vitamix a lot more often. Granted, for the liquid added to the Vitamix receipes, I often use storebought apple juice or rice milk or soy milk, which are not " raw, " so if you are, or are aspiring to be, a purist (100%), then you would want to use water with the Vitamix (or homemade yogurt, if you're not a vegan?) -- or perhaps this would be a reason to go with the Omega. Good luck with your decision. Both sides of the issue have good points (as do those who ask why juice in the first place -- just chew); the above is just a reflection of what has ended up being the important factors in my reality. And, of course, we all have different realities! Peace, all. Audie I know need one or the other to get more enzymes, > vitamins and minerals into my body. > I have been told the Vitamix works so aggressivly that it compromises > the enzymes in the juice and you need to drink it within 5 minutes. > I was leaning in the Vitamix direction due to the fiber content. > I have been told the Omega Juicer works gently and preserves the > enzymes as well as exttracting more juice than regular juicers. > Any advice on this issue? > Many thanks, > Sheri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 This is a helpful page for comparing a few juicers: http://www.hacres.com/diet/articles/Juice_Extractor_Comparison.pdf I'm not sure how long ago this testing/comparing took place, so newer models may be different and hopefully better. I don't think most people would even consider the Vitamix a juicer since it still contains all the pulp (same as chewing), but that's just another thing to consider for you as an individual. It just depends on what you want. HTH, Cindy -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/161 - Release 11/3/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 > I have been told the Vitamix works so aggressivly that it > compromises the enzymes in the juice and you need to drink it > within 5 minutes. I was leaning in the Vitamix direction due > to the fiber content. I have been told the Omega Juicer works > gently and preserves the enzymes as well as exttracting more > juice than regular juicers. Hi Sheri, I was just wondering if you could share where you got this info from? Is it just the fact that the Vitamix heats up the food that's the issue if it gets too warm, or did you see info somewhere that just the speed itself can damage enzymes? I'm interested to know your source on this so I can find out more. Thanks! ________ Find your next car at http://autos..ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I looked around on the internet and found this page. http://www.mercola.com/article/juicer.htm# From what that page says it damages the food due to heat from the 240 mph blades (not sure why they used mph instead of rpm possibly to throw you off with non-standardized numbers that show a 'BIG' difference thats not really there) in the Vitamix. The Omega seems to fall in line with the Champion and Green-Star line of juicers due to it's masticating action instead of centrifugal design. Not sure if this is the exact page that is being referred to or not. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Now that I think about it, I really doubt that the heat from the blending of the Vitamix would destroy enzymes. At the most, it would warm it to a modest level for certain soups and vegan chili. I don't have one, but the Vitamix seems like a heavy duty blender and worth the money you would spend on one. But like I said, I don't have one (see previous post disclaimer ). > > From what that page says it damages the food due to heat from the 240 > mph blades (not sure why they used mph instead of rpm possibly to throw > you off with non-standardized numbers that show a 'BIG' difference thats > not really there) in the Vitamix. -- Thank you for your time and energy, Tim Buckner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Yes, my merely semi-educated view is that, at least for the chilled juice recipes that call for ice or frozen fruit, etc., there should be little detriment to enzymes. The hot soup recipes, though, would be another matter, presumably. It's difficult for me to even grasp what enzymes ARE (even though I understand what they DO), so it's harder for me to guess if the blade action could destroy them, irrespective of any heat that might be generated. rawfood , Tim Buckner <talisen@b...> wrote: > > Now that I think about it, I really doubt that the heat from the > blending of the Vitamix would destroy enzymes. At the most, it would > warm it to a modest level for certain soups and vegan chili. I don't > have one, but the Vitamix seems like a heavy duty blender and worth the > money you would spend on one. But like I said, I don't have one (see > previous post disclaimer ). > > > > > > From what that page says it damages the food due to heat from the 240 > > mph blades (not sure why they used mph instead of rpm possibly to throw > > you off with non-standardized numbers that show a 'BIG' difference thats > > not really there) in the Vitamix. > > > -- > Thank you for your time and energy, > > Tim Buckner > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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