what's in braggs

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i read that the gov't made them take the words

'contains no MSG' off the label of the aminos

since some MSG occurs naturally.

is there a down-side to their vinegar?

Dennis

 

 

Daniel Duke <danielrduke wrote:

This is a little information about Braggs.

 

Sourced from: http://www.welikeitraw.com/rawfood/product_reviews/

 

Personally I don't care for the stuff. I elminated it from my diet

some time ago. One of the reasons is it caused me to crave it, since

it has MSG that is probably why I craved it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bragg Liquid Aminos: History Repeats Itself

 

Every so often the following group of articles enjoys a resurgence of

airtime in the raw-food community. Since we've noticed them on a few

email groups recetly, we thought it would make a good addition to our

daily digest:

 

Bragg Liquid Aminos: Poison

by David Klein, 1997

http://www.livingnutrition.com

 

Below is information I received from an associate on the saltiness of

Bragg Liquid Aminos. Below is the text from her letter. Before I get

to it, I'll give some background information on her, so you'll know

where she is coming from.

 

Griselda Blazey has a B.S. in biology, a M.S. is biochemistry, and a

Ph.D. (actually a post-doctorate) in endocrinology. She also has a

degree from the now defunct College of Dietary Therapy in England.

She authored a book, " Food Matters " , and a workbook

called, " Nutritional Transformation " , and used to teach a course by

that name. She has been teaching cell physiology, metabolic

disorders, and nutrition at Life Chiropractic College West, in San

Leandro, California for the past four years. The first time I heard

her theory on the saltiness of Bragg Liquid Aminos was during a

lecture she gave at a San Francisco Living Foods Support Group

meeting a few years ago. Here is the text from her recent letter:

 

" The other topic you asked about in your letter was about how Bragg

Aminos are made. Once again, here's an armchair biologist's answer,

meaning that I don't know this for sure, but it's the only thing that

makes scientific sense. If I were given some vegetable protein and

were asked to make it into amino acids without spending a lot of

money on it, I would boil it up with some hydrochloric acid. This

would break it down to amino acids, but of course it would be too

acidic to be palatable. So I

would then neutralize the acid with baking soda, causing the reaction

mixture to look like this:

 

2HCl + Na2CO3 ===> 2NaCl + CO2 + H2O

 

So the salt gets made by mistake as it were. Now someone (I forget

who) followed up on this and contacted the Bragg company to ask if

this was how they did it, and they denied it. However, they didn't

disclose how they do actually do it, so in the absence of correct

information, and with an extremely salty taste in their product, I

still consider the above process to play at least some part in their

procedure. "

 

That's it. We don't know for sure. All I know is that Griselda has an

impressive mind for original theoretical scientific thought, and I

sure felt awful after having a bit of Bragg a several years ago.

Hope you find her theory interesting and worthy of second-thinking

the inclusion of the Bragg product in recipes.

 

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From the http://www.living-foods.com forum

RE: Bragg liquid aminos IS POISON

Author: Dave Klein, board moderator

08-06-1999 14:34

 

It looks like we finally got some proof from the Bragg company that

the liquid aminos product is heat processed and made with

hydrochloric acid. Salt apparently forms in its processing, plus

glutamic acid which is the same poison which is in MSG. Many many raw

fooders have apparently been lied to and duped by the Bragg who have

until recently stated that the product is all raw

and not processed with heat or chemicals. And many many folks like

myself become ill very soon after ingesting the crap. Sea salt is

less deadly than Bragg Liquid Aminos, but then I prefer

tomatoes to get mineral salts in my diet when I want to enjoy salty

flavors. Try adding sun dried tomatoes to salads too.

 

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From the http://www.living-foods.com Forum

" My point " by Michael

18/06/99 05:59:17

 

After reading the speculations about Bragg Liquid Aminos posted on

this forum and hearing horror stories from others (my sister talked

with a man who said he quit using it because it gave him nightmares)

I decided to just jump right out and ask the Bragg company themselves.

 

Decide for yourself if you feel like using it.

 

1. Is hydrochloric acid used at any time in the production of Bragg

Liquid Aminos? I have been told that it is used to separate the

aminos from the soybeans (like isolated soy protein) and gives it the

salty flavor.

 

Yes, our product is hydrolized in the process.

 

2. Are you aware of the dangerous effects of glutamic acid within the

human body? Do you plan on taking measures to remove glutamic acid

from Bragg Liquid Aminos?

 

The glutamic acid is naturally occurring and cannot be isolated to

remove it as an individual amino acid. In our laboratory results

analyses show that the Liquid Aminos contain no monosodium

glutamate.

 

3. If BLA is neither heat processed nor fermented, could you please

explain why it does not turn rancid at room temperature as opposed to

requiring refrigeration?

 

Our liquid aminos does go rancid if kept out of the cupboard or out

of the refrigerator. We suggest storing in a cupboard or the

refrigerator. It is the same reason ketchup or soy sauce, or jam,

or peanut butter do not go bad if kept in the cupboard. Eventually

they will all go bad.

 

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A group e-mail message:

November 2, 1998

 

Hi all:

 

A while back we were had chatted here and questioned whether above

has msg or not and Patricia Bragg said NO.

 

We'll here's some info. that says yes, and FDA had her remove her NO

MSG label. You can check on the documentation self. A friend sent

this is who a researcher. I don't have his permission

to release his name, but this should ans. the question on YES, above

has MSG per FDA.

 

" MSG-sensitive people react to any glutamic acid that has been freed

from protein through a manufacturing process providing that they

ingest an amount that exceeds their individual tolerance

for the substance. Consequently, consumers refer to all processed

free glutamic acid as MSG. This fact was acknowledged by the FDA in

the " FDA Backgrounder " dated August 31, 1995.

 

Under Section 403 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act it is

deceptive and misleading to say " No MSG " or " No MSG added " on a

processed food label that contains free glutamic acid. It is for this

reason that the FDA forced Live Products, manufacturer of Bragg

Liquid Aminos, to remove the words " No MSG " from the product's label. "

 

Hugs,

Carol, CO

 

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