RE: Whey protein??? (What Does and Doesn't Work for You on the Raw Diet)

[Guest guest]

Hi Robert,

 

I'm very interested in what you've found does and doesn't

work for you on the raw diet. I used to feel like if it was

raw, it was healthy (all of the time). Boy was I in denial!

I ate a couple of large packages of raw cookies a couple of

months ago, and I got a nasty virus that started in my lungs

and wiped me out. I'm still cleansing and repairing from

that one (although I am feeling much better now,

thankfully!). That incident was a real wake-up call for me.

I found out that I don't do well on lots of dehydrated foods

(meaning much more than an odd dehydrated cracker here and

there), and I don't do well on concentrated sweets,

including honey, agave, or dates.

 

It has been a process for me. In the beginning, I don't

think I could have gone raw, if it wasn't for lots of

dehydrated recipes and concentrated sweets. Now the very

things that helped me get raw are what I need to eliminate

to achieve the next level of health for me.

 

I read with interest your typical diet, posted a few days

back. Here's what I'm trying to do with my diet now:

 

Breakfast: 1 quart of green smoothie (some fruit and a lot

of greens), followed by fresh fruit until lunch

Lunch: large green salad with avo and crackers with pate

Dinner: soup or large salad

 

I just read The pH Miracle by Robert O. Young. Between that

book and Rainbow Green Live-Food Cuisine by Gabriel Cousens,

I learned a lot about self-composting and creating

fermentation in the body. I wanted to try both of their

programs to eliminate molds/yeasts from the body, but the

idea of completely giving up eating fruit really sounded

hard! Then I thought back to Fit for Life by Harvey Diamond.

The idea was to keep fruit eating separate from the eating

of other foods to avoid fermentation. Then I thought, well

maybe I can try that for a while, and see how it goes. So,

aside from leafy greens, which are supposed to be OK with

fruit, I'm only eating fruit alone, without nuts or oils or

starchy vegetables. I figure this would be a great first

step toward a " cleaner " way of eating.

 

So, everybody, what have you found that doesn't work for you

on the raw food diet, and what kinds of changes have you

made as a result? I would love to hear what you are doing to

fine-tune the diet to meet your individual needs!

 

Love and light,

 

Jennifer

 

 

_____

 

rawfood

[rawfood ] On Behalf Of

rbwest01

Friday, March 03, 2006 10:41 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Whey protein???

 

 

There are many rawfooders who have horrible diets and are

not any healthier then meat eaters. If I have a flaxseed

cracker with raw almond butter and raw honey on top with an

organic slice of banana on top of that. Well that tastes

terrific. Is totally raw and organic and will really mess

up my health if I eat like that a lot of the time. Sorry, I

better get off my pedestal. Just be careful and read a lot

to gain knowledge. With love.

 

Robert W.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jennifer

This is of course my philosofy but you are reading the right books. I have met

Robert and his wife Shelley and had some neat one on one discussions with the

both of them. I strongly believe in his position as far as your PH level is

concerned. You also are reading Gabriel's latest book which is really a " coming

on board " as to what Robert believes. Two weeks ago I met and talked to Paul

Nison and he to has changed his approach and is now fully in line with the same

thinking.

 

So, you know what I do I would therefore look at your diet and say this. Do not

mix into your smoothy any fruit. Yes there are some that you can get away with

but for now, don't do it. You need to get in this mind set. Make sure your

volume of juice is large enough. I take 4 cups. It really fills me up. When

getting hungry let's say 2-3 hours later have veggies like cucumber, tomato,

celery or have a fruit like an apple, banana. Make sure that you wait at least

45 minutes after your fruit intake for veggies etc. I would leave the crackers

out during lunch and have it at dinner time with your soup. I have some nuts

like almonds, cashews, raisins, walnuts etc for fats, taste, hunger pangs etc.

 

As you see I violate Robert's diet a little and I am okay with that. Afterall,

I am doing this to eat health and to comply with some rule. The banana and

raisins as you know are frowned upon. But, one day I might eliminate that but

for now that is what I do. If you are a big dinner and late eater person then

you might want to eat a little fruit in the early morning and take your juice to

work. (if you work) have it in an airtight container preferable no air in it so

fill it close to the rim. Your body has to detox at night and in the morning

and a little fruit and lots of water is very good. I am not prepared yet to

give up fruit. Just treat it like dessert. Have maybe 2 fruits a day. (2

pineapples) ha ha.

 

But you are certainly on the right track. I salute you for your

accomplishments. Just don't put yourself on a guilt trip. Life is a journey so

let's enjoy the ride a little.

 

Robert W

 

 

 

 

>

> " Jennifer " <simplify

> 2006/03/03 Fri PM 07:29:15 EST

> <rawfood >

> RE: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and Doesn't Work for You on

the Raw Diet)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey there,

Regarding raw food combining, I once read from some

books saying that avocado is okay to combine with

everything such as fruits and vegetables...Is that

true?

 

What's your take on this?

 

thanks.

 

--- Jennifer <simplify wrote:

 

> Hi Robert,

>

> I'm very interested in what you've found does and

> doesn't

> work for you on the raw diet. I used to feel like if

> it was

> raw, it was healthy (all of the time). Boy was I in

> denial!

> I ate a couple of large packages of raw cookies a

> couple of

> months ago, and I got a nasty virus that started in

> my lungs

> and wiped me out. I'm still cleansing and repairing

> from

> that one (although I am feeling much better now,

> thankfully!). That incident was a real wake-up call

> for me.

> I found out that I don't do well on lots of

> dehydrated foods

> (meaning much more than an odd dehydrated cracker

> here and

> there), and I don't do well on concentrated sweets,

> including honey, agave, or dates.

>

> It has been a process for me. In the beginning, I

> don't

> think I could have gone raw, if it wasn't for lots

> of

> dehydrated recipes and concentrated sweets. Now the

> very

> things that helped me get raw are what I need to

> eliminate

> to achieve the next level of health for me.

>

> I read with interest your typical diet, posted a few

> days

> back. Here's what I'm trying to do with my diet now:

>

> Breakfast: 1 quart of green smoothie (some fruit and

> a lot

> of greens), followed by fresh fruit until lunch

> Lunch: large green salad with avo and crackers with

> pate

> Dinner: soup or large salad

>

> I just read The pH Miracle by Robert O. Young.

> Between that

> book and Rainbow Green Live-Food Cuisine by Gabriel

> Cousens,

> I learned a lot about self-composting and creating

> fermentation in the body. I wanted to try both of

> their

> programs to eliminate molds/yeasts from the body,

> but the

> idea of completely giving up eating fruit really

> sounded

> hard! Then I thought back to Fit for Life by Harvey

> Diamond.

> The idea was to keep fruit eating separate from the

> eating

> of other foods to avoid fermentation. Then I

> thought, well

> maybe I can try that for a while, and see how it

> goes. So,

> aside from leafy greens, which are supposed to be OK

> with

> fruit, I'm only eating fruit alone, without nuts or

> oils or

> starchy vegetables. I figure this would be a great

> first

> step toward a " cleaner " way of eating.

>

> So, everybody, what have you found that doesn't work

> for you

> on the raw food diet, and what kinds of changes have

> you

> made as a result? I would love to hear what you are

> doing to

> fine-tune the diet to meet your individual needs!

>

> Love and light,

>

> Jennifer

>

>

> _____

>

> rawfood

> [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> rbwest01

> Friday, March 03, 2006 10:41 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Whey protein???

>

>

> There are many rawfooders who have horrible diets

> and are

> not any healthier then meat eaters. If I have a

> flaxseed

> cracker with raw almond butter and raw honey on top

> with an

> organic slice of banana on top of that. Well that

> tastes

> terrific. Is totally raw and organic and will

> really mess

> up my health if I eat like that a lot of the time.

> Sorry, I

> better get off my pedestal. Just be careful and read

> a lot

> to gain knowledge. With love.

>

> Robert W.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Robert,

 

Yes, I was reading Paul Nison's newsletter the other day,

and he mentioned that The pH Miracle had changed his life,

so I ran out and got it!

 

I don't know if I should " bite the bullet " and clean myself

out with something like The pH Miracle/Rainbow Green Phase I

for three months, and then do a maintenance diet with a

couple pieces of fruit per day, or if I should just ease

into these ideas by changing the way I've been operating to

the diet I mentioned in my last email. I felt super deprived

this afternoon, because I was trying to stay away from fruit

in the afternoon. Before, I would usually have a nut milk

fruit smoothie combo--a no-no on The pH Miracle!

 

The pH Miracle seems pretty doable, just no fruit at all! On

the other hand, Rainbow Green allows lower glycemic fruit,

but in combos with nuts that would make the author of the pH

Miracle shudder! And some of those Rainbow Green recipes

seem like they might be too fatty for good health. I know

raw fats are good for you, but some of these recipes really

take it too far, to me. What's your take on all that?

 

So you drink green juice in the morning? And you don't think

it's a good idea to mix leafy greens with lower glycemic

fruit? My favorite green smoothie is celery, parsley,

dandelion greens, and Granny Smith (tart) apple. 1 apple to

a Vitamix full of greens and water. It makes me feel super

clean. You think this would be a bad food combo (that it

would still cause fermentation)? Yes, I like the idea of

treating fruit like a dessert, keeping it separate (except

for with greens, maybe?) ;-). I figured AT LEAST I'm not

trying to mix fruit with nuts or oils, but you think with

leafy greens is for sure a no-no?

 

Love and light,

 

Jennifer

_____

 

rawfood

[rawfood ] On Behalf Of

rbwest01

Friday, March 03, 2006 6:35 PM

rawfood

Re: RE: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and

Doesn't Work for You on the Raw Diet)

 

 

Hi Jennifer

This is of course my philosofy but you are reading the right

books. I have met Robert and his wife Shelley and had some

neat one on one discussions with the both of them. I

strongly believe in his position as far as your PH level is

concerned. You also are reading Gabriel's latest book which

is really a " coming on board " as to what Robert believes.

Two weeks ago I met and talked to Paul Nison and he to has

changed his approach and is now fully in line with the same

thinking.

 

So, you know what I do I would therefore look at your diet

and say this. Do not mix into your smoothy any fruit. Yes

there are some that you can get away with but for now, don't

do it. You need to get in this mind set. Make sure your

volume of juice is large enough. I take 4 cups. It really

fills me up. When getting hungry let's say 2-3 hours later

have veggies like cucumber, tomato, celery or have a fruit

like an apple, banana. Make sure that you wait at least 45

minutes after your fruit intake for veggies etc. I would

leave the crackers out during lunch and have it at dinner

time with your soup. I have some nuts like almonds, cashews,

raisins, walnuts etc for fats, taste, hunger pangs etc.

 

As you see I violate Robert's diet a little and I am okay

with that. Afterall, I am doing this to eat health and to

comply with some rule. The banana and raisins as you know

are frowned upon. But, one day I might eliminate that but

for now that is what I do. If you are a big dinner and late

eater person then you might want to eat a little fruit in

the early morning and take your juice to work. (if you work)

have it in an airtight container preferable no air in it so

fill it close to the rim. Your body has to detox at night

and in the morning and a little fruit and lots of water is

very good. I am not prepared yet to give up fruit. Just

treat it like dessert. Have maybe 2 fruits a day. (2

pineapples) ha ha.

 

But you are certainly on the right track. I salute you for

your accomplishments. Just don't put yourself on a guilt

trip. Life is a journey so let's enjoy the ride a little.

 

Robert W

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jennifer;

 

Well, whether you dive into the cleansing stage or ease into it depends upon

your willpower. If you feel that Robert's program is doable then by all means

go for it.

 

But if you grave fruit, then maybe try to curb the graving a little with the low

sugar fruits as they are alkalizing such as avocado, tomato, cantaloupe,

grapefruit. Watermelon by itself (borderline). As long as you avoid

pineapples, bananas, mangoes, apples and honeydews you should be okay.

 

For myself I am kind off in between the two programs. I avoid, mushrooms and

vinager, but also want to make sure I get the necessary fats and like some

aspects of the Rainbow approach. I feel that you cannot go wrong with either of

the two approaches as their alkaline concerns are identical. As you know all the

high sugar fruits are acid forming just like meats etc. Hence the emphasis on

veggies as they are all alkaline.

 

Regarding the mixing of fruits and vegetables, the low-sugar fruits are alkaline

and therefore can be mixed with vegetables , but to me it is just easier to just

not do that. Also, if you are in a state of imbalance which I presume you are

at this point, you want to keep your intake of carrots, beets and squash at a

minimum.

 

Be sure to only eat 2 fruits a day. (1 pineapple and 1 watermelon) just kidding.

 

Robert W

>

> " Jennifer " <simplify

> 2006/03/03 Fri PM 10:38:17 EST

> <rawfood >

> RE: RE: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and Doesn't Work for

You on the Raw Diet)

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jennifer

A follow up. I think that Cousens approach might be a little less stringent for

some people to ease into. Following that they can always move to Robert's PH

diet.

 

I do not know the sugar content of a granny smith. Apples in general are a high

sugar fruit (15%) and acid forming, that REALLY violates the ph diet. Once you

are balanced you can eat those fruits a little again.

 

As an aside, Avocado can be bought non organic, there is practically no

difference except price.

 

Robert W

 

 

>

> " Jennifer " <simplify

> 2006/03/03 Fri PM 10:38:17 EST

> <rawfood >

> RE: RE: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and Doesn't Work for

You on the Raw Diet)

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi, Robert,

 

This is true. The ones that I get from the organic co-op are cheaper

than the ones in the store. Also better.

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , <rbwest01 wrote:

>

> Hi Jennifer

 

> As an aside, Avocado can be bought non organic, there is practically

no difference except price.

>

> Robert W

[Guest guest]

rawfood , <rbwest01 wrote:

> Apples in general are a high sugar fruit (15%) and acid forming,

that REALLY violates the ph diet.

> Robert W

 

I don't understand why people keep saying fruits are acidic. Upon my

research I have found that many fruits are alkaline in the body

including lemons and apples.

 

I found a website that has a table of alkaline and acidic foods.

While not complete there were only 6 fruits listed on the acid side

and 22 fruits listed on the alkaline side (including apples). You

might be surprised to learn " Note that a food's acid or alkaline-

forming tendency in the body has nothing to do with the actual pH of

the food itself. For example, lemons are very acidic, however the end-

products they produce after digestion and assimilation are very

alkaline so lemons are alkaline-forming in the body. Likewise, meat

will test alkaline before digestion but it leaves very acidic residue

in the body so, like nearly all animal products, meat is very acid-

forming. " Hope this helps others as it helped me.

 

The website with the alkaline/acidic food table (scroll down)

http://www.naturalhealthschool.com/acid-alkaline.html

 

If you have a link that is opposite of this information please post

it so we can check it out.

 

Minnie

[Guest guest]

Hi Robert,

 

Yes, I've heard that about avocados. I get better selection

and price at my food co-op, so I stick with organic, but if

that changes...!

 

I see that Gabriel Cousens doesn't show apples until phase 2

of his program, so they're sweeter than I remembered!

Lower-glycemic fruits (after lemons, limes) include

grapefruit, raspberries, blueberries, strawberries,

cherries, cranberries, pomegranates, and goji berries.

 

Love and light,

 

Jennifer

 

 

_____

 

rawfood

[rawfood ] On Behalf Of

rbwest01

Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:07 AM

rawfood

RE: RE: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and

Doesn't Work for You on the Raw Diet)

 

 

Hi Jennifer

A follow up. I think that Cousens approach might be a

little less stringent for some people to ease into.

Following that they can always move to Robert's PH diet.

 

I do not know the sugar content of a granny smith. Apples

in general are a high sugar fruit (15%) and acid forming,

that REALLY violates the ph diet. Once you are balanced you

can eat those fruits a little again.

 

As an aside, Avocado can be bought non organic, there is

practically no difference except price.

 

Robert W

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " Jennifer " <simplify wrote:

> Here's a chart from The pH Miracle called The pH of Fruit:

 

Hi Jennifer,

 

Is there a link I could check out this information directly? It seems

this info is based on the food itself not the food inside the body. For

instance lemons are very acidic outside but very alkaline in the body.

 

Minnie

[Guest guest]

Hi Minnie,

 

I found another chart of foods in The pH Miracle book. It

lists limes as +8.2 and lemons as +9.9 (both alkalizing). It

looks to me like their chart is accurate, as far as

recognizing that lemon and lime are both alkalizing, not

acidifying, so the other fruits listed in the pH of Fruits

chart that I typed out before is along the same lines.

Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be an online version

of either chart. Their web site is

www.innerlightfoundation.org.

 

Here's a link I found to a virtual science fair, where a

student tested the pH of various fruit juices. They all

turned out to be acidic:

http://www.virtualsciencefair.org/2005/oliv5n0/observations.

html Here's another interesting link:

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2485.html It sure brings

up some questions! Here's another more comprehensive listing

of fruits and vegetables. It lists both alkalizing and

acidifying fruits and vegetables. Unfortunately, it doesn't

list the actual pH of the food or the sources used to create

the chart. I wonder how much of it is based on hearsay from

old books: http://www.essense-of-life.com/info/foodchart.htm

 

As far as Sapoty Brook's CaPNaK chart is concerned, perhaps

he hasn't taken into account the reaction in the body, as

his chart seems very different from the one in The pH

Miracle. I'm not completely certain of his methods.

 

Sometimes I wonder if what some people list as " alkalizing "

isn't really just " wishful thinking. " I've heard some people

say that dates and figs are extremely alkalizing. My

understanding is that when our system is alkalized, we feel

calm and balanced. Unfortunately, I feel anything but calm

and balanced after eating dates or figs! I'd like to believe

that they're alkalizing, but that doesn't make it so. They

sure are sweet and tasty, though!

 

 

Love and light,

 

Jennifer

 

 

_____

 

rawfood

[rawfood ] On Behalf Of minnie9090

Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:19 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and

Doesn't Work for You on the Raw Diet)

 

 

rawfood , " Jennifer " <simplify

wrote:

> Here's a chart from The pH Miracle called The pH of Fruit:

 

Hi Jennifer,

 

Is there a link I could check out this information directly?

It seems

this info is based on the food itself not the food inside

the body. For

instance lemons are very acidic outside but very alkaline in

the body.

 

Minnie

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " Jennifer " <simplify wrote:

> I found another chart of foods in The pH Miracle book.

 

ARRGGG!!! How are we supposed to know what to believe when everybody

had different information on just about everything! This is good for

you. No it's bad for you. That is good for you. No it's bad for you. :-<

 

Well thanks for the info. Now I need to do more research! ARRRGGG!!!

 

Minnie

[Guest guest]

When you all get to the bottom of what is right for us and what is wrong for

us...can someone please email me? I would like to know what shopping list to

use next...LOL!!!

 

Great googly moogly!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

minnie9090 <minnie9090 wrote:

rawfood , " Jennifer " <simplify wrote:

> I found another chart of foods in The pH Miracle book.

 

ARRGGG!!! How are we supposed to know what to believe when everybody

had different information on just about everything! This is good for

you. No it's bad for you. That is good for you. No it's bad for you. :-<

 

Well thanks for the info. Now I need to do more research! ARRRGGG!!!

 

Minnie

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I second that commotion!

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , Sherry <dobeythehouseelf wrote:

>

> When you all get to the bottom of what is right for us and what is

wrong for us...can someone please email me? I would like to know what

shopping list to use next...LOL!!!

>

> Great googly moogly!

>

> minnie9090 <minnie9090 wrote:

> rawfood , " Jennifer " <simplify@> wrote:

> > I found another chart of foods in The pH Miracle book.

>

> ARRGGG!!! How are we supposed to know what to believe when everybody

> had different information on just about everything! This is good for

> you. No it's bad for you. That is good for you. No it's bad for you.

:-<

>

> Well thanks for the info. Now I need to do more research! ARRRGGG!!!

>

> Minnie

[Guest guest]

LOL! Yes, it is really difficult to know what is best for us

to eat! Luckily, we've all narrowed it down to raw and

living foods--we've won half the battle already!

 

 

Love and light,

 

Jennifer

 

 

_____

 

rawfood

[rawfood ] On Behalf Of jerushy1944

Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:56 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and

Doesn't Work for You on the Raw Diet)

 

 

I second that commotion!

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , Sherry

<dobeythehouseelf wrote:

>

> When you all get to the bottom of what is right for us and

what is

wrong for us...can someone please email me? I would like to

know what

shopping list to use next...LOL!!!

>

> Great googly moogly!

>

> minnie9090 <minnie9090 wrote:

> rawfood , " Jennifer " <simplify@>

wrote:

> > I found another chart of foods in The pH Miracle book.

>

> ARRGGG!!! How are we supposed to know what to believe when

everybody

> had different information on just about everything! This

is good for

> you. No it's bad for you. That is good for you. No it's

bad for you.

:-<

>

> Well thanks for the info. Now I need to do more research!

ARRRGGG!!!

>

> Minnie

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Well back from my trip to San Diego and three pages of Email almost all from you

guys. We are an active group. Well no doubt everybody has already responded.

It is the remaining ash that determines it an yes lemons are alkeline and very

good for you. It is therefore good to squeeze some lemon juice in your bottle

of water.

 

Robert W

>

> " minnie9090 " <minnie9090

> 2006/03/04 Sat AM 11:10:23 EST

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and Doesn't Work for You on

the Raw Diet)

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

yOU ARE TAKING ALL THE FUN AND EXCITEMENT OUT OF IT. wHY WOULD i LIKE TO READ

YOUR eMAILS ANYMORE? JUST KIDDING

 

ROBERT W

>

> jerushy1944 <no_reply >

> 2006/03/05 Sun AM 11:55:57 EST

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and Doesn't Work for You on

the Raw Diet)

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I bought Robert Young's book, Sick? and Tired, in 1999. There may be

some changes in this position over last 6 to 7 years. In the book(I have)

at the end, he lists various foods in groups & gives it's -ve number or

+ve number for acidity & alkalinity! He has three sections!

 

One - foods you can eat freely. This section list various veggies,

low sugary fruits (lime, lemon, tomato, avacodoes etc), root veggies

(carrot etc), nuts (Hazelnut & Alamond), seeds & fats (olive oil etc).

 

Second - foods you can eat Sparingly. This section list various

fruits (Ripe Banana, Dates etc), fats (Ghee, Sunflower Oil),

Nuts (walnuts, Brazil nuts etc)

 

Third - foods You should NEVER eat. This section has usual things

that you might all know - Meat, fish, Milk products, Breads, Butter,

Sweets (sugary things), Beverages etc.

 

So, atleast in this book, he does say that you can fruits Sparingly.

How sparingly ? I couldn't find in the book. I guess it's something

one has to decided.

 

IMO, if one is consuming a lot of dark veggies and other alkaline

foods, one or two fruits could be fine as long as you don't mix

different fruits and don't mix them with anything else & let them

digest for an hour before eating anything else ! At the end though,

you have to judge if your body is close to the pH of 7.3 or way

down from it. If it's way below 7.3, it's acidic, in that case I guess

fruit is out of question until the body comes back close to 7.3.

This is my opinion ! I use pH paper to test pH of my sliva &

mainly urine to know pH of my body !

 

Does anyone know where does Olive (not oil) stand ? Is it

acidic or alkaline ?

 

It was good know that avocadoes are alkaline in nature (as per

the book). In other words, I don't have to eat them with dark green

veggies !

 

Cheers,

 

- Hemant.

 

rbwest01 wrote: yOU ARE TAKING ALL THE FUN AND EXCITEMENT OUT

OF IT. wHY WOULD i LIKE TO READ YOUR eMAILS ANYMORE? JUST KIDDING

 

ROBERT W

>

> jerushy1944 <no_reply >

> 2006/03/05 Sun AM 11:55:57 EST

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and Doesn't Work for You

on the Raw Diet)

>

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[Guest guest]

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Hi Hemant,

 

Thank you for your thoughtful response. It looks like Robert

O. Young's position on what you should and should not eat

has changed and gotten more strict since he wrote Sick and

Tired. In The pH Miracle, all fruit (besides cucumber,

tomato, avocado, grapefruit, lemon, and lime), basically, is

a no-no, meaning never. Maybe he has found that this

approach works better.

 

I very much like your comments here:

 

IMO, if one is consuming a lot of dark veggies and other

alkaline foods, one or two fruits could be fine as long as

you don't mix different fruits and don't mix them with

anything else & let them digest for an hour before eating

anything else ! At the end though, you have to judge if your

body is close to the pH of 7.3 or way down from it. If it's

way below 7.3, it's acidic, in that case I guess fruit is

out of question until the body comes back close to 7.3. This

is my opinion !

 

 

Very smart! As far as your question about olives goes,

Robert O. Young says that green olives are acid-forming and

create sticky mucous and are fermented by fungus. Gabriel

Cousens, on the other hand, recommends the eating of olives,

saying the only ones that should be eaten are those cured in

water or water and Celtic sea salt.

 

Love and light,

 

Jennifer

 

 

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[rawfood ] On Behalf Of Hemant Yevale

Monday, March 06, 2006 12:31 PM

rawfood

Re: Re: [Raw Food] Whey protein??? (What Does and

Doesn't Work for You on the Raw Diet)

 

 

 

I bought Robert Young's book, Sick? and Tired, in 1999.

There may be

some changes in this position over last 6 to 7 years. In

the book(I have)

at the end, he lists various foods in groups & gives it's

-ve number or

+ve number for acidity & alkalinity! He has three

sections!

 

One - foods you can eat freely. This section list various

veggies,

low sugary fruits (lime, lemon, tomato, avacodoes etc),

root veggies

(carrot etc), nuts (Hazelnut & Alamond), seeds & fats

(olive oil etc).

 

Second - foods you can eat Sparingly. This section list

various

fruits (Ripe Banana, Dates etc), fats (Ghee, Sunflower

Oil),

Nuts (walnuts, Brazil nuts etc)

 

Third - foods You should NEVER eat. This section has usual

things

that you might all know - Meat, fish, Milk products,

Breads, Butter,

Sweets (sugary things), Beverages etc.

 

So, atleast in this book, he does say that you can fruits

Sparingly.

How sparingly ? I couldn't find in the book. I guess it's

something

one has to decided.

 

IMO, if one is consuming a lot of dark veggies and other

alkaline

foods, one or two fruits could be fine as long as you

don't mix

different fruits and don't mix them with anything else &

let them

digest for an hour before eating anything else ! At the

end though,

you have to judge if your body is close to the pH of 7.3

or way

down from it. If it's way below 7.3, it's acidic, in that

case I guess

fruit is out of question until the body comes back close

to 7.3.

This is my opinion ! I use pH paper to test pH of my

sliva &

mainly urine to know pH of my body !

 

Does anyone know where does Olive (not oil) stand ? Is it

acidic or alkaline ?

 

It was good know that avocadoes are alkaline in nature (as

per

the book). In other words, I don't have to eat them with

dark green

veggies !

 

Cheers,

 

- Hemant.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jennifer,

 

Thank you for the information on olives!

 

I am thinking of getting new books from Robert Young to get

latest information.

 

Cheers,

 

- Hemant.

 

 

 

 

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