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Can you give me scientific proof that it's good for you? Just think

about it. It's produced by rotting a food until it turns to alcohol.

Then the alcohol has to sour and turn into acetic acid which in

concentration, by the way, can burn the skin if it isn't handled with

heavy rubber gloves. Latex gloves won't even help. There are trace

amounts of nutrients in it but not nearly as much as what's in the

original apple. All of the anecdotes out there extolling the wonderful

qualities of apple cider vinegar are just that--anecdotes. If acetic

acid is so harmful in concentration, why would I want to put just a

little bit in my body? For the flavor? And raw apple cider vinegar can

contain E. coli.

 

I have read (and I don't have the documentation here) that vinegar

will slow digestion. That is counterproductive with the raw food diet.

 

To your good health!

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , Leslie Leddo <leslie wrote:

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> > On Mar 27, 2006, at 6:49 AM, jerushy1944 wrote:

> > The fact remains that vinegar is the product of rotten food and

isn't

> > good for health.

>

> That's interesting. I am doing a cleanse program currently with a

> practioner here in CA and she advocates the use of raw apple cider

> vinegar as does Alissa Cohen. I also did a 14 day fast a year ago

> supervised by a naturopathic physician who advocated it's use as

> well. I would be interested in seeing the literature that

> substantiates the statement that it isn't good for health.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Leslie

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rawfood , jerushy1944 <no_reply wrote:

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> Can you give me scientific proof that it's good for you? Just think

> about it. It's produced by rotting a food until it turns to alcohol.

 

Is rejuvelac not in the same boat - the fermenatation?

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Hi Tommie,

 

Your information is interesting. I just did a search on apple cider

vinegar there were thousands of links listed. I browsed through

several pages of these and found not a single negative reference to

using it either internally or externally, quite the contrary all of

the links had only positive and beneficial things to say about it's

use. I still feel like I would need to see much more literature/

documentation re it's negative effects before I would stop using

apple cider vinegar based on information listed on one web site, when

there are so many more recommending and listing the positive and

beneficial effects of it's use, including naturopathic physicians,

holistic practioners and some of the raw food " gurus " many of us

look to to guide us along this journey. BTW, just about anything

you eat can contain ecoli if it has been exposed to it....with poor

hand washing techniques for instance.

 

Leslie

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I belong to the school of thought that rotten food is not fit for

consumption. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I do have

one last question. Could you drink a glass full of vinegar as you

would apple juice?

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , Leslie Leddo <leslie wrote:

>

> Hi Tommie,

>

> Your information is interesting. I just did a search on apple

cider

> vinegar there were thousands of links listed. I browsed through

> several pages of these and found not a single negative reference

to

> using it either internally or externally, quite the contrary all

of

> the links had only positive and beneficial things to say about

it's

> use. I still feel like I would need to see much more literature/

> documentation re it's negative effects before I would stop using

> apple cider vinegar based on information listed on one web site,

when

> there are so many more recommending and listing the positive and

> beneficial effects of it's use, including naturopathic physicians,

> holistic practioners and some of the raw food " gurus " many of us

> look to to guide us along this journey. BTW, just about

anything

> you eat can contain ecoli if it has been exposed to it....with

poor

> hand washing techniques for instance.

>

> Leslie

>

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I agree Tommie,

 

I just posted in the files a pdf of-- Life Science Health System -

Lesson 29 - Condiments...from a post on another group....the pdf in

the file goes into more detail...

 

If you would like to learn more about these lessons email me

privately and I will tell you where I got this information from....

Debbie

 

Here Are Some of the Reasons Why

> > You Should Not Use Condiments

> > 1) Most condiments have no food value in

> themselves.

> >

> > 2) Most condiments are partially or totally

> indigestible.

> >

> > 3) Condiments are eaten for entertainment, not

> nourishment.

> > Eating purely for entertainment's sake is, as a

> > rule, unwholesome, though, to be sure, proper

> foods

> > arc not only nourishing but, also a delight to the

> palate.

> >

> > 4) Condiments interfere with the digestion of the

> foods

> > with which they are eaten, sometimes making a

> whole

> > meal indigestible. Fifty percent of all meals

> eaten in

> > America end in indigestion. Condiments share a

> large

> > part of the responsibility for this.

> >

> > 5) The poisonous elements of condiments (such as

> the

> > mustard oil of onions, garlic, shallots, mustard,

> etc. or

> > the allicin of garlic) cause injury in the body if

> absorbed,

> > especially to the organs of purification and

> detoxification,

> > such as the liver and kidneys.

> >

> > 6) Our ability to savor flavors is destroyed by

> condiments.

> > That which overly excites our taste buds slowly

> destroys

> > our sense of taste.

> >

> > 7) Condiments cause disease! Headaches, high blood

> pressure,

> > edema and a long list of other conditions are

> > directly traceable to such condiments as MSG,

> salt,

> > vinegar, etc.

> >

 

 

 

 

rawfood , jerushy1944 <no_reply wrote:

>

> I belong to the school of thought that rotten food is not fit for

> consumption. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I do

have

> one last question. Could you drink a glass full of vinegar as you

> would apple juice?

>

> Tommie

> http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

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> " Could you drink a glass full of vinegar as you

> would apple juice? "

 

Nope. I don't drink fruit juice I prefer to eat my fruit and no I

would not drink a glass of vinegar. I do however use it daily in an

alkalizing tea and in salad dressing.

 

Leslie

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Bless you! A like-minded person! So often, I feel like the one who is

marching to the beat of a different drummer here!

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , " Debbie " <aromatic_wings wrote:

>

> I agree Tommie,

>

> I just posted in the files a pdf of-- Life Science Health System -

> Lesson 29 - Condiments...from a post on another group....the pdf in

> the file goes into more detail...

>

> If you would like to learn more about these lessons email me

> privately and I will tell you where I got this information from....

> Debbie

>

> Here Are Some of the Reasons Why

> > > You Should Not Use Condiments

> > > 1) Most condiments have no food value in

> > themselves.

> > >

> > > 2) Most condiments are partially or totally

> > indigestible.

> > >

> > > 3) Condiments are eaten for entertainment, not

> > nourishment.

> > > Eating purely for entertainment's sake is, as a

> > > rule, unwholesome, though, to be sure, proper

> > foods

> > > arc not only nourishing but, also a delight to the

> > palate.

> > >

> > > 4) Condiments interfere with the digestion of the

> > foods

> > > with which they are eaten, sometimes making a

> > whole

> > > meal indigestible. Fifty percent of all meals

> > eaten in

> > > America end in indigestion. Condiments share a

> > large

> > > part of the responsibility for this.

> > >

> > > 5) The poisonous elements of condiments (such as

> > the

> > > mustard oil of onions, garlic, shallots, mustard,

> > etc. or

> > > the allicin of garlic) cause injury in the body if

> > absorbed,

> > > especially to the organs of purification and

> > detoxification,

> > > such as the liver and kidneys.

> > >

> > > 6) Our ability to savor flavors is destroyed by

> > condiments.

> > > That which overly excites our taste buds slowly

> > destroys

> > > our sense of taste.

> > >

> > > 7) Condiments cause disease! Headaches, high blood

> > pressure,

> > > edema and a long list of other conditions are

> > > directly traceable to such condiments as MSG,

> > salt,

> > > vinegar, etc.

> > >

>

>

>

>

> rawfood , jerushy1944 <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > I belong to the school of thought that rotten food is not fit for

> > consumption. We will have to agree to disagree on this one. I do

> have

> > one last question. Could you drink a glass full of vinegar as you

> > would apple juice?

> >

> > Tommie

> > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

>

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Well, I lean toward this more then I do some other things.. I get

confused sometimes as to how far I want to stretch things... find

myself stretching too far then falling off the wagon... but I do feel

this lesson and the others I have read through this kind person's

gifts.. have made so much more sense... and I am learning fast...

so glad to make you feel not so alone.... :)

Debbie

 

rawfood , jerushy1944 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Bless you! A like-minded person! So often, I feel like the one who

is

> marching to the beat of a different drummer here!

>

> Tommie

> http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

>

> rawfood , " Debbie " <aromatic_wings@> wrote:

> >

> > I agree Tommie,

> >

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Take it slow and easy. I was already more than half the way there

because I have never eaten meat, I'd given up soy years ago, (my

thyroid appreciated that and my swearing off vinegar and fermented

foods) I was eating more and more fresh whole foods. I went 100% raw

within four days of deciding to " give it a whirl " . I understand that

most people can't do that. Cooked food and fractured foods are really

and truly addictive.

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , " Debbie " <aromatic_wings wrote:

>

> Well, I lean toward this more then I do some other things.. I get

> confused sometimes as to how far I want to stretch things... find

> myself stretching too far then falling off the wagon... but I do

feel

> this lesson and the others I have read through this kind person's

> gifts.. have made so much more sense... and I am learning fast...

> so glad to make you feel not so alone.... :)

> Debbie

>

> rawfood , jerushy1944 <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > Bless you! A like-minded person! So often, I feel like the one who

> is

> > marching to the beat of a different drummer here!

> >

> > Tommie

> > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

> >

> > rawfood , " Debbie " <aromatic_wings@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I agree Tommie,

> > >

>

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