Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Well that is the difference Leah. Eating raw is not a life or death situation. An allergy to peanuts would be a life or death situation. You require raw, perhaps now I want some soul food, the third person wants an Arabic dish. The planner is right. There are children dying in the streets of Baghdad and you are whining because you can't have a salad. Denise On 4/5/06, Leah Morrison <l_morrison2002 wrote: > > Anyone remember the discussion last week about what to do about the > company provided lunches? > > Well, I got a notice of another required lunch for next week. I emailed > the planner and said, hey any chance there will be salad? And explained > that last time I purchased a salad from the vendor (with my own $) so that I > could still eat with the others.... > > Her reply was.... disappointing. She said, I really hate to start taking > special orders... then everyone will want to special order. Then she ended > it with saying when I decide where I am ordering, I will let you know. It > was in a " short " kind of tone. > > What ever. I think part of what ticks me off is that if it were a > medicial requirement.... life or death... the attitude would probably be > completely different. > > I am feeling so much better, that I refuse to let anyone or any thing keep > me from doing what I know is obviously right. (for my body anyway.) > > Thanks for listening to me whine......... > > Leah > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Leah, In a way it is a matter of life and death, just the degree. As you know, raw fooders, vegans and vegetarians live longer. As for the children in the streets of Baghdad, if we all ate raw there would be more than enough food to feed the world and we would all be operating on a higher energetic level so that there would be peace in the world as our energy evolved toward the level of our Source. BTW, I don't think that trying to arrange to eat in a manner that is healthier for you and better for the planet is whining. Tammy On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Miss Denise wrote: > Well that is the difference Leah. Eating raw is not a life or death > situation. An allergy to peanuts would be a life or death situation. > You > require raw, perhaps now I want some soul food, the third person > wants an > Arabic dish. The planner is right. There are children dying in the > streets > of Baghdad and you are whining because you can't have a salad. > > Denise > > > On 4/5/06, Leah Morrison <l_morrison2002 wrote: > > > > Anyone remember the discussion last week about what to do about the > > company provided lunches? > > > > Well, I got a notice of another required lunch for next week. I > emailed > > the planner and said, hey any chance there will be salad? And > explained > > that last time I purchased a salad from the vendor (with my own $) > so that I > > could still eat with the others.... > > > > Her reply was.... disappointing. She said, I really hate to start > taking > > special orders... then everyone will want to special order. Then > she ended > > it with saying when I decide where I am ordering, I will let you > know. It > > was in a " short " kind of tone. > > > > What ever. I think part of what ticks me off is that if it were a > > medicial requirement.... life or death... the attitude would > probably be > > completely different. > > > > I am feeling so much better, that I refuse to let anyone or any > thing keep > > me from doing what I know is obviously right. (for my body anyway.) > > > > Thanks for listening to me whine......... > > > > Leah > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I would just bring my own food and eat it wheather they like it or not. They cant fire you for eating something healthy. If they wont provide it at their cost, just bring your own meal like you would any other day and leave it at that. Some times you just cant fight the system. Just keep in mind, that in the long run, you will be the healthier one! paddlerwoman wrote: Leah, In a way it is a matter of life and death, just the degree. As you know, raw fooders, vegans and vegetarians live longer. As for the children in the streets of Baghdad, if we all ate raw there would be more than enough food to feed the world and we would all be operating on a higher energetic level so that there would be peace in the world as our energy evolved toward the level of our Source. BTW, I don't think that trying to arrange to eat in a manner that is healthier for you and better for the planet is whining. Tammy On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:12 PM, Miss Denise wrote: > Well that is the difference Leah. Eating raw is not a life or death > situation. An allergy to peanuts would be a life or death situation. > You > require raw, perhaps now I want some soul food, the third person > wants an > Arabic dish. The planner is right. There are children dying in the > streets > of Baghdad and you are whining because you can't have a salad. > > Denise > > > On 4/5/06, Leah Morrison <l_morrison2002 wrote: > > > > Anyone remember the discussion last week about what to do about the > > company provided lunches? > > > > Well, I got a notice of another required lunch for next week. I > emailed > > the planner and said, hey any chance there will be salad? And > explained > > that last time I purchased a salad from the vendor (with my own $) > so that I > > could still eat with the others.... > > > > Her reply was.... disappointing. She said, I really hate to start > taking > > special orders... then everyone will want to special order. Then > she ended > > it with saying when I decide where I am ordering, I will let you > know. It > > was in a " short " kind of tone. > > > > What ever. I think part of what ticks me off is that if it were a > > medicial requirement.... life or death... the attitude would > probably be > > completely different. > > > > I am feeling so much better, that I refuse to let anyone or any > thing keep > > me from doing what I know is obviously right. (for my body anyway.) > > > > Thanks for listening to me whine......... > > > > Leah > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Tammy, Thank you, some times I get really tired of defending what other people consider to be " weird " personal choices. I would venture to guess others here get a similar volume of flack from people who eat SAD. I don't even open my mouth about recycling and other issues, you know? I try not to criticize or be judge mental about choices that others make, I just want the same unconditional love that I give to everyone else!!!!! (I am stepping away from the soap box now.) Leah paddlerwoman wrote: BTW, I don't think that trying to arrange to eat in a manner that is healthier for you and better for the planet is whining. Tammy Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Leading by example with a smile on your face always works better than preaching. Just do your thing and send out the loving vibes. Tammy On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Leah Morrison wrote: > Tammy, >   >  Thank you, some times I get really tired of defending what other > people consider to be " weird " personal choices. I would venture to > guess others here get a similar volume of flack from people who eat > SAD.   I don't even open my mouth about recycling and other issues, > you know? I try not to criticize or be judge mental about choices > that others make, I just want the same unconditional love that I give > to everyone else!!!!! (I am stepping away from the soap box now.) >   >  Leah > > paddlerwoman wrote: >  BTW, I don't think that trying to arrange to eat in a manner that is > healthier for you and better for the planet is whining. > > Tammy > >                > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low > rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 > BTW, I don't think that trying to arrange to eat in a manner that is > healthier for you and better for the planet is whining. > Tammy I agree. If you think that's whining, then nobody in the world could ever talk about anything, because there's always something more tragic and serious going on in the world. You can't tackle the world if you don't start at home, with yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Leah, I'm in the " bring your own food " crowd. If the person ordering doesn't want to be friendly about your special request, then find out from where the food is coming and either call them and do what you did last time (place your order and pay for it) or take your own food. As for children starving... just because I can't feed the starving children of the world (or stop people who can't feed their children from having them) does not mean that I deprive myself a salad or the right to be annoyed that I can't have one. I say, whine away... (Sounds to me like the thing to do would be to get the food ordering person into raw foods!! hehe) Suzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 " (I am stepping away from the soap box now.) " That's okay, Leah. I needed one to occupy. I just got off the phone with the chef at a conference center where I'll be this weekend. They are set up to accommodate vegans, vegetarians, any special diet (i.e. diabetic), or meateaters. When I asked about raw vegan, he shouted, " WHAT??? " I told him I don't eat anything cooked and would there be anything I could eat. His answer was flat out NO. I asked him if I needed to provide my own food and he said, " YES!!! " The meals are supposed to be included in the price of the room so I think it should be discounted. There's a refrigerator in the room (plus a microwave and coffee maker) so I'll live and maybe better than if someone unexperienced tried to figure out a menu. It was the tone of his voice and the rudeness that got me. Maybe I can meet him and turn him on to a better way of life! As for whining, I don't think wanting to feed your body a better quality of food is whining. Maybe Denise was just picking up on what you'd said at the end of your post. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , Leah Morrison <l_morrison2002 wrote: > > Tammy, > > Thank you, some times I get really tired of defending what other people consider to be " weird " personal choices. I would venture to guess others here get a similar volume of flack from people who eat SAD. I don't even open my mouth about recycling and other issues, you know? I try not to criticize or be judge mental about choices that others make, I just want the same unconditional love that I give to everyone else!!!!! (I am stepping away from the soap box now.) > > Leah > > paddlerwoman wrote: > BTW, I don't think that trying to arrange to eat in a manner that is > healthier for you and better for the planet is whining. > > Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Hi Leah, I have gone through this myself during my first 2 years on raw. Right now, on my 5th years I am where I accept occasional cooked, inorganic, in other words " not perfect " foods. I think you are in your " healing yourself " stage right now. I think you are doing great - choosing to eat right for your health, and not worry about what other might think about your eating habit. You must choose your well-being, first. People will be inspired by your being a shining example - you do not need to explain with words when you look healthy, vibrant and alive! Others will natually be curious about what your secret is! I feel that is the ultimate way - lead others by being an example. Keep up the good work! Mihoko Product Specialist NatuRAW 851 Irwin Street, Suite 304 San Rafael, CA 94901 USA 415-456-1719 x 111 775-587-8613 fax http://www.naturaw.com - Making Raw Foods Work For You NatuRAW Newsletter --> http://visitor.constantcontact.com/optin.jsp?m=1101124355896 & ea= http://www.naturaw.com/mihoko.htm - Mihoko's Raw Wellness Counseling Leah Morrison <l_morrison2002 wrote: Tammy, Thank you, some times I get really tired of defending what other people consider to be " weird " personal choices. I would venture to guess others here get a similar volume of flack from people who eat SAD. I don't even open my mouth about recycling and other issues, you know? I try not to criticize or be judge mental about choices that others make, I just want the same unconditional love that I give to everyone else!!!!! (I am stepping away from the soap box now.) Leah paddlerwoman wrote: BTW, I don't think that trying to arrange to eat in a manner that is healthier for you and better for the planet is whining. Tammy Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 I am no psychologist Leah, but it seems to me there is more here than just dietary choices. It seems like a preoccupation with being loved/liked/accepted, not wanting to appear different. Bring your food to work, dont make a big deal of it, if you asked, just explain calmly and with a smile. There is nothing to defend, it is a personal choice. Someone else thinking it's weird/wayout/whatever does not mean you have to defend it. Godfrey --- Live Simply <sgsikora wrote: > Leah, I'm in the " bring your own food " crowd. If > the person ordering > doesn't want to be friendly about your special > request, then find out from > where the food is coming and either call them and do > what you did last time > (place your order and pay for it) or take your own > food. > > As for children starving... just because I can't > feed the starving children > of the world (or stop people who can't feed their > children from having them) > does not mean that I deprive myself a salad or the > right to be annoyed that > I can't have one. I say, whine away... > > (Sounds to me like the thing to do would be to get > the food ordering person > into raw foods!! hehe) > > Suzy > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 One time, I was at a business conference, flown in especially for it. It was an emergency and I flew directly to SF, straight from the airport to meeting that would include a working lunch. I had told the person planning the lunch what I required. Needless to say, there wasn't ANYTHING for me. As the rest of group, started their working lunch, I got up from the table and said, " I have not eaten in 7 hours, I told the planner what I do eat and there is nothing here for me. I am going out get something and will return as soon as possible. " I walked out of the stunned meeting, went down to the street, found a juice bar. Had some wonderful blended lunch and went back to the conference room. I found out later, that the person who had ignored my meal request was balled out by his boss for causing the disruption. People know to respect things like kosher meals or halal food restrictions of the muslims. I believe that we have to stand up for what we believe. Leah, I suggest that you be clear about your needs. If you are forced to buy your own meal, insist that your employer cover it. Either bring your own food, eat before, or if those options are eliminated by your employer, walk out when you are hungry with a smile on your face. If they consider your contributions valuable, they won't let it happen again. And finally, here is the worst suggestion of all, (students hate it when I say this) if your job absolutely refuses to support your lifestyle, maybe quit your job. (I highly recommend it.) Finding a job without world-destructing dilemmas on even the simplest issues will probably lead to a deeper sense of personal well-being and happiness and job satisfaction. In response to Miss Denise [cocoasunrise], children are starving around the world because NOT ENOUGH people are insisting on eating salads. According to Caryn Hartglass, executive director of EarthSave.org (who guest lectured down here at the institute last month) the earth's agricultural rescources used as they are now to feed animals for slaughter can only properly feed 2.6 billion people. However, if feeding animals for slaughter/consumption were removed from the equation, our present agricultural resources could properly feed well over 11 billion people. (Take fresh water for instance. Each cow requires many gallons of water and many pounds of grain to raise; and each pound of GRAIN needs many gallons of water to grow. Pound for pound, it takes 12,000 gallons of fresh drinkable water to raise one pound of beef. 20 pounds of grain to raise each single pound of beef. Imagine, each pound of beef sold at the super market taking away 20 pounds of grain from the world's resources and 12,000 gallons of fresh drinking water. Talk about greedy and self-serving!) Demand a salad and save the starving children of Bangladesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I'm confused Tommie they won't have salads or fresh fruit? They will be able to accommodate all those choices but not raw? Seems odd to me. You may find some things to eat but you will probably need to supplement by bringing your own. Hope it goes well for you. ~ Laura rawfood wrote: Message: 15 Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:16:26 -0000 jerushy1944 Re: work. " (I am stepping away from the soap box now.) " That's okay, Leah. I needed one to occupy. I just got off the phone with the chef at a conference center where I'll be this weekend. They are set up to accommodate vegans, vegetarians, any special diet (i.e. diabetic), or meateaters. When I asked about raw vegan, he shouted, " WHAT??? " I told him I don't eat anything cooked and would there be anything I could eat. His answer was flat out NO. I asked him if I needed to provide my own food and he said, " YES!!! " The meals are supposed to be included in the price of the room so I think it should be discounted. There's a refrigerator in the room (plus a microwave and coffee maker) so I'll live and maybe better than if someone unexperienced tried to figure out a menu. It was the tone of his voice and the rudeness that got me. Maybe I can meet him and turn him on to a better way of life! As for whining, I don't think wanting to feed your body a better quality of food is whining. Maybe Denise was just picking up on what you'd said at the end of your post. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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