Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 I was a very dedicated soy eater. Soy milk, Tofu, Beans, Tempeh, any way I could get it. I made much of it myself. We didn't want to eat dairy. I thought I was doing myself a favour by trying to prevent the need to use Hormone replacement therapy at menopause. I didn't experience menopause symptoms, but I did experience abnormal bleeding. After testing, it was found that I had endometrial cancer of the uterus. One complete hysterectomy later, my ovary was found to also have a malignant tumour. I was told that these things could possibly have been activated by an abundance of female hormones. Caused by soy? Speculation? Perhaps-I don't know. I don't want to make such a statement and I don't want to cause unwarranted fears, since I am no scientist. I just wouldn't want to take that chance again by eating so much soy if I had been aware of this concern before. I have since changed my diet radically to almost totally raw content. I noticed that so many prepared manufactured foods contain some form of soy. It seems to be all over, and not only in food. I have had tofu a few times since, but it scares me a little because my particular type of cancer is well-documented to recur. I hope that soy and as-yet-unknown other things don't play a part in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Mrs. M, soy IS everywhere in prepared foods. Some people think that's the cause of so much obesity in America. Another person suggested that it could be why there are so many gay people now, too. I don't know about the validity of either argument but it is more pervasive now than it's ever been. I think that the proliferation of gay people could be because they aren't as afraid to " come out of the closet " . Just some thoughts... I think you are wise to stay away from it since, as Shari said, there's nothing in soy that we need that we can't get somewhere else. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , " MrandMrsM " <tdbmgroups wrote: > > I was a very dedicated soy eater. Soy milk, Tofu, Beans, Tempeh, any > way I could get it. I made much of it myself. We didn't want to eat > dairy. I thought I was doing myself a favour by trying to prevent > the need to use Hormone replacement therapy at menopause. > > I didn't experience menopause symptoms, but I did experience abnormal > bleeding. After testing, it was found that I had endometrial cancer > of the uterus. One complete hysterectomy later, my ovary was found > to also have a malignant tumour. > > I was told that these things could possibly have been activated by an > abundance of female hormones. Caused by soy? > > Speculation? Perhaps-I don't know. I don't want to make such a > statement and I don't want to cause unwarranted fears, since I am no > scientist. I just wouldn't want to take that chance again by eating > so much soy if I had been aware of this concern before. > > I have since changed my diet radically to almost totally raw > content. I noticed that so many prepared manufactured foods contain > some form of soy. It seems to be all over, and not only in food. I > have had tofu a few times since, but it scares me a little because my > particular type of cancer is well-documented to recur. I hope that > soy and as-yet-unknown other things don't play a part in that. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Yeah, those " gay people " are probably gay from eating soy. Uh Huh. To a " gay person " like myself, saying that gayness " is more pervasive now than it's ever been " seems like quite the misguided generalization. Maybe do some research before you begin categorizing people and drawing conclusions...and don't treat being gay as if it were a disease like obesity. Susan " Remember your humanity and forget the rest. " Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 rawfood , jerushy1944 <no_reply wrote: > > Mrs. M, soy IS everywhere in prepared foods. Some people think that's > the cause of so much obesity in America. Another person suggested > that it could be why there are so many gay people now, too. I don't > know about the validity of either argument but it is more pervasive > now than it's ever been. I think that the proliferation of gay people > could be because they aren't as afraid to " come out of the closet " . > Just some thoughts... > > I think you are wise to stay away from it since, as Shari said, > there's nothing in soy that we need that we can't get somewhere else. > > Tommie > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com > Hi Tommie, That is an interesting observation. Although my soy consumption did not cause me to become gay (in or out of the closet), it could have been a factor in my weight gain.... I used to be a very slim person. As soon as I became a vegetarian, and after that a vegan (cooked), I gained a lot of weight. I always thought it strange since vegetarians are often caricatured as being skinny, pale to the point of emaciation and unhealthy looking generally. In fact, many people I knew fit that mold. Not me; I put on pounds and didn't know why since my consumption of food hadn't increased in volume. Oh joy - maybe NOW I know what to blame it on! My activity level did decrease when I had children though. YES really. I keep hoping the weight will melt off when I finally attain to " full raw status " . Tirza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 rawfood , susan <peacefulmeow wrote: > > Yeah, those " gay people " are probably gay from eating soy. Uh Huh. To a " gay person " like myself, saying that gayness " is more pervasive now than it's ever been " seems like quite the misguided generalization. Maybe do some research before you begin categorizing people and drawing conclusions...and don't treat being gay as if it were a disease like obesity. > > Susan > " Remember your humanity and forget the rest. " Albert Einstein > Susan, Tommie wrote: " Some people think that's the cause of so much obesity in America (soy consumption. Another person suggested that it could be why there are so many gay people now, too. I don't know about the validity of either argument.... " I doubt that she intended a slur against either gay or obese people herself. It appeared to me that she was quoting - almost tongue-in- cheek - some of the widespread uninformed rhetoric that can be attached to any emotionally controversial issue. She didn't say that gay people are, or 'gayness' is more pervasive. On the contrary, I understood it to mean that the reason some people THINK it is more pervasive can be explained by the fact that it has become a more open subject and people are more willing to declare than before. We are aware that just because a subject is taboo in society doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. On the contrary. The very fact that it is taboo probably means that it does exist in abundance. Just having to face the fact that there are a lot of gay people is hard for some people. They would rather find something to explain it, like whether soy consumption could be to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Hi, Tirza. I don't know that it causes " gayness " but I'm sure that it can make you put on the pounds. After my third child, my body seemed to turn against me. My metabolism slowed and the only way I lost weight was to go on the Weimar Diet which was all natural foods (albeit a lot of them were cooked). It was 80% carbohydrates, 10% fat, and 10% protein. No " free " fats, and no processed foods. Hence, most of the soy was cut out. I lost all the weight that I'd gained during my pregnancy and felt really good. Then, when I added back prepared foods, the pounds came back. I upped my soy intake a few years ago to try to get off hormones and gained 50 pounds in a year. To make a long story short, the only way I have been able to lose any weight and keep it off has been to go raw. It's been easier for me to eat 100% raw than to try to keep my cooked food to a minimum. I'll bet that you will lose weight! Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , " MrandMrsM " <tdbmgroups wrote: > > rawfood , jerushy1944 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Mrs. M, soy IS everywhere in prepared foods. Some people think that's > > the cause of so much obesity in America. Another person suggested > > that it could be why there are so many gay people now, too. I don't > > know about the validity of either argument but it is more pervasive > > now than it's ever been. I think that the proliferation of gay people > > could be because they aren't as afraid to " come out of the closet " . > > Just some thoughts... > > > > I think you are wise to stay away from it since, as Shari said, > > there's nothing in soy that we need that we can't get somewhere else. > > > > Tommie > > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com > > > > Hi Tommie, That is an interesting observation. Although my soy > consumption did not cause me to become gay (in or out of the closet), > it could have been a factor in my weight gain.... I used to be a very > slim person. As soon as I became a vegetarian, and after that a vegan > (cooked), I gained a lot of weight. I always thought it strange since > vegetarians are often caricatured as being skinny, pale to the point of > emaciation and unhealthy looking generally. In fact, many people I > knew fit that mold. Not me; I put on pounds and didn't know why since > my consumption of food hadn't increased in volume. Oh joy - maybe NOW > I know what to blame it on! > > My activity level did decrease when I had children though. YES really. > > I keep hoping the weight will melt off when I finally attain to " full > raw status " . > > Tirza > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Susan, I wasn't saying that *I* thought that soy has caused (as it was said to me) " the gaying of America " . That is one of the opinions out there and I was merely sharing it. I _have_ seen documentation that baby boys can have deformed genitals because their mothers ingested large amounts of soy when they were pregnant. At least that was what was blamed for it. Soy has been implicated in the early puberty of young girls. When the above statement was made, it was being applied to males. At least that is how I understood it. I'm sorry if I offended you. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , susan <peacefulmeow wrote: > > Yeah, those " gay people " are probably gay from eating soy. Uh Huh. To a " gay person " like myself, saying that gayness " is more pervasive now than it's ever been " seems like quite the misguided generalization. Maybe do some research before you begin categorizing people and drawing conclusions...and don't treat being gay as if it were a disease like obesity. > > Susan > " Remember your humanity and forget the rest. " Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 You are right, but please- obesity is NOT a disease, lol. I understand and appreciate your point, though. Brenda susan <peacefulmeow wrote: Yeah, those " gay people " are probably gay from eating soy. Uh Huh. To a " gay person " like myself, saying that gayness " is more pervasive now than it's ever been " seems like quite the misguided generalization. Maybe do some research before you begin categorizing people and drawing conclusions...and don't treat being gay as if it were a disease like obesity. Susan " Remember your humanity and forget the rest. " Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Oh, but they are recognizing obesity as a disease now. Just as alcoholism is a disease, has been for years. Can't speak for obesity, but alcoholism is a disease of the mind and body. It is an obsession of the mind and an allergy of the body. And when you think about it most obese people have an obsession with food and most food we crave we are allergic to, wheat and sugar come to mind as the main biggies. Just some of my thoughts. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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