Question to Tommie or anyone - Hair Loss

[Guest guest]

Tommie, (or anyone who has had this issue)

 

I have been reading the message history looking for answers and found

an old post in the master cleanse thread where you talked about having

some detox symptoms from diet changes with out fasting.

You said you had some hair loss...

 

How long did it last? Did any certain diet change make it stop?

 

Naturally, I wouldn't be asking if my hair weren't falling out in

HANDFULLS every day for about a month now. I have always had thin

hair, so I don't have much to spare! I hope it stops before I have to

go wig shopping.

 

I started the raw journey in mid Feb, after a really crapy winter in

terms of my over all health. I took antibiotics 4 times between Oct

and Feb... which I have been told does a number on your hair. I was

mentally prepared for issues while the body clears itself of all the

trash I have subjected it too, but again I would like to have some hair

left!

 

Any pearls of wisdom? Is there a good resource for me to find out which

vitamins and minerals are indicated for specific issues? After that I

would like to read up on which foods have the best sources of those

vitamins and minerals...

 

Thanks in advance for any information you have.

 

Kindest Regards,

Leah

[Guest guest]

Well, Leah, it didn't last that long but it still isn't as thick as

it used to be. I quit putting color on it, too, which makes it seem

thinner because the dye kind of " bulked it up " . I have no idea what

made it quit falling out. I've added lots more greens to my diet. I

have the equivalent of a whole head of romaine plus a good amount of

other greens (spinach, whatever) every day. I make sure I get enough

calories from fruit, too. I eat an assortment of veggies but they

don't pack the punch that fruit does. Nuts, seeds, and avocados round

out my diet. I've heard that zinc plays a big part in hair and nails.

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , " l_morrison2002 " <l_morrison2002

wrote:

>

> Tommie, (or anyone who has had this issue)

>

> I have been reading the message history looking for answers and

found

> an old post in the master cleanse thread where you talked about

having

> some detox symptoms from diet changes with out fasting.

> You said you had some hair loss...

>

> How long did it last? Did any certain diet change make it stop?

>

> Naturally, I wouldn't be asking if my hair weren't falling out in

> HANDFULLS every day for about a month now. I have always had thin

> hair, so I don't have much to spare! I hope it stops before I have

to

> go wig shopping.

>

> I started the raw journey in mid Feb, after a really crapy winter

in

> terms of my over all health. I took antibiotics 4 times between

Oct

> and Feb... which I have been told does a number on your hair. I

was

> mentally prepared for issues while the body clears itself of all

the

> trash I have subjected it too, but again I would like to have some

hair

> left!

>

> Any pearls of wisdom? Is there a good resource for me to find out

which

> vitamins and minerals are indicated for specific issues? After that

I

> would like to read up on which foods have the best sources of those

> vitamins and minerals...

>

> Thanks in advance for any information you have.

>

> Kindest Regards,

> Leah

>

[Guest guest]

extrememly low thyroid or extremely high tyroid function will cause hair loss as

well...have you had a blood panel run? Its a simple test any dr can run and can

tell you alot about what is going on in your body!

 

 

 

(or anyone who has had this issue)

>

where you talked about having some detox symptoms from diet changes with out

fasting. You said you had some hair loss...

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I was also going to suggest that having the thyroid checked. Don't let the

doctor tell you that your thyroid is " normal " though if they are judging by

the numbers that were normal five years ago.

Check out some sites about thyroid such as http://thyroid.about.com/ and

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

 

My doctor initially told me mine was " normal " after I asked for the tests.

I requested the lab results be faxed to me and saw that I had elevated

antibodies - which is clearly NOT normal. I insisted I be referred to

someone, and she referred me to an endocrinologist who immediately said,

" Hashimoto's! " But, her only treatment plan was Synthroid. After three

months of poor response on Synthroid and side effects that were unacceptable

(and reading some negative things about the drug), I started doing more

investigative work and wanted to try a new treatment. She wasn't for

that... so, now I see a Holistic doctor who is working *with *me. Finally I

am feeling almost my ol' self again! A little tweaking is needed, but I

think that's on its way... especially if I do the raw foods lifestyle

whole-heartedly.

 

(A side note: Both sites recommend " natural " treatment with dessicated pig

thyroid. I have found that while I have to take medication to treat it at

the moment, I do not have to take pig thyroid to manage my symptoms -- which

noticeably began as hair loss.)

 

Suzy

 

On 5/9/06, Dobby the house elf <dobeythehouseelf wrote:

>

> extrememly low thyroid or extremely high tyroid function will cause hair

> loss as well...have you had a blood panel run? Its a simple test any dr can

> run and can tell you alot about what is going on in your body!

>

>

>

>

> (or anyone who has had this issue)

> >

> where you talked about having some detox symptoms from diet changes with

> out fasting. You said you had some hair loss...

>

>

>

> New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save

> big.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have read that dying hair with henna is good to help stop hair loss-

no clue why. I have really thick hair and lose a bit over the course of

a day, and this has slowed down enough to notice since using henna.

Weird, eh?

 

-Raine

 

Tommie wrote:

> Well, Leah, it didn't last that long but it still isn't as thick as

> it used to be. I quit putting color on it, too, which makes it seem

> thinner because the dye kind of " bulked it up " . I have no idea what

> made it quit falling out. I've added lots more greens to my diet. I

> have the equivalent of a whole head of romaine plus a good amount of

> other greens (spinach, whatever) every day. I make sure I get enough

> calories from fruit, too. I eat an assortment of veggies but they

> don't pack the punch that fruit does. Nuts, seeds, and avocados round

> out my diet. I've heard that zinc plays a big part in hair and nails.

>

> Tommie

> http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

>

 

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[Guest guest]

Leah,

 

My hair has actually started getting thicker since I have been eating

raw. Prior to that I had started the post menopausal hair loss that

affects some women. I have talked to a couple of doctors about it and

done some reading. The concensus seemed to be that if it was genetic

you could maybe slow it down and keep it from being so severe with diet

and watching the thyroid but that you might not be able to totally stop

it. If it is thyroid getting the right minerals, etc. should help. At

the Tree of Life they recommended Quantum Thyroid Complex by Premier

Research Labs and kelp plus Quantum Greens. You can find them on the

Premier site or get them from the Tree. Also, you might find some

information in Prescriptions for Nutritional Healing by Blach.

 

In some of the raw literature their are claims for it helping with

balding and loss of color. I read somewhere, was it here?, that Ann

Wigmore put wheatgrass on her hair and it returned to its original red

color for the last twenty years of her life. I couldn't help but wonder

if it turned it green until the red came in. ;-)

 

Tammy

On May 9, 2006, at 4:45 PM, l_morrison2002 wrote:

 

> Tommie, (or anyone who has had this issue)

>

> I have been reading the message history looking for answers and found

> an old post in the master cleanse thread where you talked about having

> some detox symptoms from diet changes with out fasting.

> You said you had some hair loss...

>

> How long did it last? Did any certain diet change make it stop?

>

> Naturally, I wouldn't be asking if my hair weren't falling out in

> HANDFULLS every day for about a month now.  I have always had thin

> hair, so I don't have much to spare!  I hope it stops before I have to

> go wig shopping.

>

> I started the raw journey in mid Feb, after a really crapy winter in

> terms of my over all health.  I took antibiotics 4 times between Oct

> and Feb... which I have been told does a number on your hair.  I was

> mentally prepared for issues while the body clears itself of all the

> trash I have subjected it too, but again I would like to have some

> hair

> left!

>

> Any pearls of wisdom? Is there a good resource for me to find out

> which

> vitamins and minerals are indicated for specific issues? After that I

> would like to read up on which foods have the best sources of those

> vitamins and minerals...

>

> Thanks in advance for any information you have.

>

> Kindest Regards,

> Leah

>

 

[Guest guest]

" that Ann Wigmore put wheatgrass on her hair and it returned to its

original red "

 

I don't think that's what was written. I thought it just said that from

DRINKING wheatgrass and eating primarily raw fruits and vegetables her hair

turned back to the original color. I'm wondering, why it went grey in the

first place. She was always very mindful of her diet. Hmmmm.....

 

Have been doing some interesting reading in my Natural Hygiene book and it

says ALL modalities of " healing " are false. In other words, even

supplements from The Tree are poison to our body. The only healer is our

body. Feed it only raw fruits and vegetables and it will heal itself. We

cannot heal anything with supplements, ointments, medicines, etc...

 

Personally I have honed my diet for a couple weeks. I have stopped using

salt and no fats, that includes avos and nuts and yes, I am - nuts! I am a

salt fiend and love my avocados!! I am also being very careful to eat mono

meals. I'm going through a 10# watermelon every day!

 

No scale at this house, but I'll certainly know when things start to change

by my too tight pants!

 

Happy Hump Day - Shari

[Guest guest]

Shari,

 

I may have misread but remember thinking about her hair turning green

as I read it. Will keep my eyes open for the souce. At times our mind

can play funny games with us when we are reading someting. I too

wondered about her hair turning grey.

 

I respectfully disagree with the Natural Hygiene book. The supplements

available at the Tree are all organic, vegan and raw. Many are similar

to things that we would dry in our dehydrators. I agree that our bodies

are responsible for healing themseles, but to do this we need to give

them the best possible nutrition. Our foods today no longer contain

some of the essential minerals that they did just 50 years ago. Because

of the depletion of the soil and the agricultural practices we need to

obtain these essential minerals in some manner. In an ideal world

where we were able to obtain food that was not depleted we would be

able to heal our bodies with these foods. Unfortunately, we are no

longer living in the Garden of Eden or anything close to it. I chose to

judicially use those supplements that will provide what our soil and

plants are no longer able to provide.

 

For those looking for a source to find what foods contain what

minerals, Cousens Spiritual Nutrition has a good section on this.

 

 

Tammy

On May 10, 2006, at 8:12 AM, SV wrote:

 

> " that Ann Wigmore put wheatgrass on her hair and it returned to its

> original red "

>

> I don't think that's what was written.  I thought it just said that

> from

> DRINKING wheatgrass and eating primarily raw fruits and vegetables

> her hair

> turned back to the original color.  I'm wondering, why it went grey

> in the

> first place.  She was always very mindful of her diet.  Hmmmm.....

>

> Have been doing some interesting reading in my Natural Hygiene book

> and it

> says ALL modalities of " healing " are false.  In other words, even

> supplements from The Tree are poison to our body.  The only healer is

> our

> body.  Feed it only raw fruits and vegetables and it will heal

> itself.  We

> cannot heal anything with supplements, ointments, medicines, etc...

>

> Personally I have honed my diet for a couple weeks.  I have stopped

> using

> salt and no fats, that includes avos and nuts and yes, I am - nuts! 

> I am a

> salt fiend and love my avocados!!  I am also being very careful to

> eat mono

> meals.  I'm going through a 10# watermelon every day!

>

> No scale at this house, but I'll certainly know when things start to

> change

> by my too tight pants!

>

> Happy Hump Day - Shari

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi!

 

I am new to this list and haven't had much time to read

the posts but I do have a question. Has anyone tried

" Natural Cellular Defense " ? I have been about 80% raw for

6 weeks and recently heard about this product on the Raw Vegan

Radio website. It sounds like a great product but I can't

find any reviews about it other than on the websites that sell

it. Thanks for any info!

 

Pam

 

 

> them the best possible nutrition. Our foods today no longer

contain

> some of the essential minerals that they did just 50 years ago.

Because

> of the depletion of the soil and the agricultural practices we

need

to

> obtain these essential minerals in some manner. In an ideal

world

> where we were able to obtain food that was not depleted we would

be

> able to heal our bodies with these foods. Unfortunately, we are no

> longer living in the Garden of Eden or anything close to it. I

chose

to

> judicially use those supplements that will provide what our soil

and

> plants are no longer able to provide.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My hubby faced a similar problem, we increased the intake of potassium rich

foods in our diet. Try this juice high in potassium which helps to nourish the

hair roots.

Ingredients:

 

8 oz carrot

4 oz parsnips

6 oz cucumber

2 oz broccoli

Chop and juice the ingredients in a

juicer and serve.

 

Terry.

http://www.healthyjuicecentral.info

 

l_morrison2002 <l_morrison2002 wrote: Tommie, (or anyone who

has had this issue)

 

I have been reading the message history looking for answers and found

an old post in the master cleanse thread where you talked about having

some detox symptoms from diet changes with out fasting.

You said you had some hair loss...

 

How long did it last? Did any certain diet change make it stop?

 

Naturally, I wouldn't be asking if my hair weren't falling out in

HANDFULLS every day for about a month now. I have always had thin

hair, so I don't have much to spare! I hope it stops before I have to

go wig shopping.

 

I started the raw journey in mid Feb, after a really crapy winter in

terms of my over all health. I took antibiotics 4 times between Oct

and Feb... which I have been told does a number on your hair. I was

mentally prepared for issues while the body clears itself of all the

trash I have subjected it too, but again I would like to have some hair

left!

 

Any pearls of wisdom? Is there a good resource for me to find out which

vitamins and minerals are indicated for specific issues? After that I

would like to read up on which foods have the best sources of those

vitamins and minerals...

 

Thanks in advance for any information you have.

 

Kindest Regards,

Leah

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I've often wondered how anything that is in a capsule or pill form can be

raw. While I respect Dr. Cousens a great deal, I do not buy into the

" supplements will cure what ails you " routine. Don't care if they are

raw, vegan, organic they didn't come from nature that way.

 

Sorry, but Natural Hygiene came be Dr. Cousens and it makes sense - to me.

 

Shari

[Guest guest]

Shari, I agree. And when someone advises taking a supplement, they

usually have just what they think you " need " for sale at a fancy

price.

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , " SV " <shavig wrote:

>

> I've often wondered how anything that is in a capsule or pill form

can be

> raw. While I respect Dr. Cousens a great deal, I do not buy into

the

> " supplements will cure what ails you " routine. Don't care if they

are

> raw, vegan, organic they didn't come from nature that way.

>

> Sorry, but Natural Hygiene came be Dr. Cousens and it makes sense -

to me.

>

> Shari

>

[Guest guest]

Dr Cousens absolutely does not say that supplements will cure what ails

you!

 

In a world where we had not screwed up nature, he would not recommend

any supplements. He only recommends supplementing those items that we

can no longer get from our foods because man has ruined the natural

balance and our foods no longer come from nature the way they once did.

If the soil no longer has the nutrients in it from which the food can

draw, then even the food you eat may " come from nature that way " but

the nature it comes from may have been so drastically changed that it

is no longer providing the building blocks your body needs. If I could

get my food from nutrient rich soil and eat it within a few hours of

harvesting it so it didn't lose nutrients, I would not think of taking

supplements. Just as our air no longer has as much oxygen as it did 50

years ago, foods grown in todays soil doesn't have the nutrient value

it did 50 years ago.

 

Things in a capsule or pill can be just as raw as all these crackers we

are all doing in our dehydrators, same process.

 

BTW, supplements don't cure, they just give the body the support it

needs to develop a strong immune system. The body/mind/spirit complex

heals, or better yet, remains healthy.

 

Tammy

 

 

On May 10, 2006, at 9:58 PM, SV wrote:

 

> I've often wondered how anything that is in a capsule or pill form

> can be

> raw.  While I respect Dr. Cousens a great deal, I do not buy into the

> " supplements will cure what ails you " routine.    Don't care if they

> are

> raw, vegan, organic they didn't come from nature that way.

>

> Sorry, but Natural Hygiene came be Dr. Cousens and it makes sense -

> to me.

>

> Shari

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tommie. We are sisters separated at birth!

 

Love you - Shari

[Guest guest]

Sorry, Tammy but I'm not going to argue with you. We have two different

thoughts and this is where I end the discussion on my part.

 

Natural Hygiene says ANYTHING that is ingested that is not in the ORIGINAL

form (such as an apple, orange mango, etc...) is irritating to the body and

causes more harm. It even states naturopaths, supplements, chiropractors,

even relexology is looked upon as too stimulating for the human body. Only

the human body can heal the human body. We cannot make new cells out of

anything but raw materials and supplements are NOT raw materials. If I had

my book here I would quote it word for word, but it's at school right now.

I'm so lucky to be able to have 20 minutes of REQUIRED reading time on my

job!

 

If you only knew how many thousands of dollars I've spent over the last 20

years on " all natural supplements " ! I could be retired and living on Maui.

Only raw foods, 100% organic, raw, vegan food has cured me what was

bothering me. Don't ask what because I never went to the doctor for

diagnosis and yes, maybe nothing was wrong with me, but I was quite

overweight and depressed.

 

ONLY 100% organic, raw, vegan food has brought me around to feeling like a

human should feel. At 56 I've gone back to work at the local high school

and run the school store and am the aide in the home ec department. I can

run circles around the teenagers and they are amazed.

 

I've said my part and now I'm going to go for my dessert - an apple. Oh,

yeah that's the other thing...my meals are mono meals of only 100% organic,

raw, vegan food.

 

So if I haven't pissed you off enough yet, how about I throw out the germ

theory? Naw, I wouldn't do that.

 

'nough said. I'm done. Next case.

 

Shari

[Guest guest]

Shari,

 

Didn't think I was arguing, just presenting another point of view.

Thanks for not stopping the discussion in the first paragraph but

going on to explain why you feel the way you do. It is nice to know why

others believe the way they do. The world would be a boring place if

everyone had exactly the same beliefs.

 

Tammy

On May 10, 2006, at 10:43 PM, SV wrote:

 

> Sorry, Tammy but I'm not going to argue with you.  We have two

> different

> thoughts and this is where I end the discussion on my part.

>

> Natural Hygiene says ANYTHING that is ingested that is not in the

> ORIGINAL

> form (such as an apple, orange mango, etc...) is irritating to the

> body and

> causes more harm.  It even states naturopaths, supplements,

> chiropractors,

> even relexology is looked upon as too stimulating for the human

> body.  Only

> the human body can heal the human body.  We cannot make new cells out

> of

> anything but raw materials and supplements are NOT raw materials.  If

> I had

> my book here I would quote it word for word, but it's at school right

> now.

> I'm so lucky to be able to have 20 minutes of REQUIRED reading time

> on my

> job!

>

> If you only knew how many thousands of dollars I've spent over the

> last 20

> years on " all natural supplements " !  I could be retired and living on

> Maui.

> Only raw foods, 100% organic, raw, vegan food has cured me what was

> bothering me.  Don't ask what because I never went to the doctor for

> diagnosis and yes, maybe nothing was wrong with me, but I was quite

> overweight and depressed.

>

> ONLY 100% organic, raw, vegan food has brought me around to feeling

> like a

> human should feel.  At 56 I've gone back to work at the local high

> school

> and run the school store and am the aide in the home ec department. 

> I can

> run circles around the teenagers and they are amazed.

>

> I've said my part and now I'm going to go for my dessert - an apple. 

> Oh,

> yeah that's the other thing...my meals are mono meals of only 100%

> organic,

> raw, vegan food.

>

> So if I haven't pissed you off enough yet, how about I throw out the

> germ

> theory?  Naw, I wouldn't do that.

>

> 'nough said.  I'm done.  Next case.

>

> Shari

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Right on Tammy.

 

Peace systa - Shari

[Guest guest]

-I always chuckle when I see blurbs about Ann Wignore's hair returning

to its natural color, frankly I think God knew what he was doing when

he programmed our hair to gray and give us a softer look. I have met a

few people with very light hair who did not turn gray but generally

darker haired people will gray to some extent if not completely. I

think it looks very attractive and frankly as a senior myself I can

honestly say I cringe when I see people with dyed hair, looks so

artificial and harsh (and that includes Ann Wigmores

anne-

- In rawfood , " SV " <shavig wrote:

>

> " that Ann Wigmore put wheatgrass on her hair and it returned to its

> original red "

>

> I don't think that's what was written. I thought it just said that

from

> DRINKING wheatgrass and eating primarily raw fruits and vegetables

her hair

> turned back to the original color. I'm wondering, why it went grey

in the

> first place. She was always very mindful of her diet. Hmmmm.....

>