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I agree Margaret. People are funny about their food. Ever notice how they

always ask us where we get our protein, calcium, A, C, whatever. But have

they ever asked MacDonalds how much protein or calcium or whatever is in

their crapburgers?

 

I'm sitting there (at school) drinking a green smoothie made from dandelion

greens (from my yard) and mangos. She asks if it is balanced as far as

nutrition. I replied, " don't know, don't care. If I feed my body this type

of food it will take care of itself. " " But how do you KNOW you are getting

all the right nutrients? " ...See above answer.... And the whole time she

is eating her Lean Cuisine and drinking a diet something or other poison.

 

Makes me crazy.

 

Shari

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I am so loving these emails!!! - Margaret - you make me laugh out loud!

 

I think we should give everyone we meet THE CHINA STUDY book.

That book is the most amazing book on earth.

WHO HAS NOT READ THIS BOOK?????

 

Run and buy it - you may haven't something very potent to tell your friends

plus you

will learn things that will build your testimony of what you are eating.

This book will make you SOSOSO happy.

 

Hahahahah - people can be so stupid.

Keep me laughing.

Judy

 

This is not funny. Where I work at the school - 2nd grade kids bring their

caffeine drinks and set them on their tables. They drink them all day

long. These parents should be tarred and feathered.

 

 

 

 

 

On 5/24/06, SV <shavig wrote:

>

> I agree Margaret. People are funny about their food. Ever notice how

> they

> always ask us where we get our protein, calcium, A, C, whatever. But have

>

> they ever asked MacDonalds how much protein or calcium or whatever is in

> their crapburgers?

>

> I'm sitting there (at school) drinking a green smoothie made from

> dandelion

> greens (from my yard) and mangos. She asks if it is balanced as far as

> nutrition. I replied, " don't know, don't care. If I feed my body this

> type

> of food it will take care of itself. " " But how do you KNOW you are

> getting

> all the right nutrients? " ...See above answer.... And the whole time she

>

> is eating her Lean Cuisine and drinking a diet something or other poison.

>

> Makes me crazy.

>

> Shari

 

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My neighbor and I were talking one day and I said that I don't eat

anything that has been cooked. He said, " Oh! That's not good! " I

asked him why not. He didn't answer and had a blank look on his face.

I said, " Do you think I'll get _too much_ nutrition? " I know I get a

heckuva lot more than most people and that includes me a year ago.

 

Tommie

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rawfood , " SV " <shavig wrote:

>

> I agree Margaret. People are funny about their food. Ever notice

how they

> always ask us where we get our protein, calcium, A, C, whatever.

But have

> they ever asked MacDonalds how much protein or calcium or whatever

is in

> their crapburgers?

>

> I'm sitting there (at school) drinking a green smoothie made from

dandelion

> greens (from my yard) and mangos. She asks if it is balanced as

far as

> nutrition. I replied, " don't know, don't care. If I feed my body

this type

> of food it will take care of itself. " " But how do you KNOW you are

getting

> all the right nutrients? " ...See above answer.... And the whole

time she

> is eating her Lean Cuisine and drinking a diet something or other

poison.

>

> Makes me crazy.

>

> Shari

>

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Tommie, that is THE BEST! I feel like everyone says the same thing

to me, so from now on I am totally going to steal that comeback!

 

I LOVE IT!

 

Terri

rawfood , " Tommie " <jerushy wrote:

>

> My neighbor and I were talking one day and I said that I don't eat

> anything that has been cooked. He said, " Oh! That's not good! " I

> asked him why not. He didn't answer and had a blank look on his

face.

> I said, " Do you think I'll get _too much_ nutrition? " I know I get

a

> heckuva lot more than most people and that includes me a year ago.

>

> Tommie

> http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

>

> rawfood , " SV " <shavig@> wrote:

> >

> > I agree Margaret. People are funny about their food. Ever

notice

> how they

> > always ask us where we get our protein, calcium, A, C,

whatever.

> But have

> > they ever asked MacDonalds how much protein or calcium or

whatever

> is in

> > their crapburgers?

> >

> > I'm sitting there (at school) drinking a green smoothie made

from

> dandelion

> > greens (from my yard) and mangos. She asks if it is balanced as

> far as

> > nutrition. I replied, " don't know, don't care. If I feed my

body

> this type

> > of food it will take care of itself. " " But how do you KNOW you

are

> getting

> > all the right nutrients? " ...See above answer.... And the

whole

> time she

> > is eating her Lean Cuisine and drinking a diet something or

other

> poison.

> >

> > Makes me crazy.

> >

> > Shari

> >

>

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As far as most of the population is concerned, we are overdosing on

vitamins and minerals. Put the ball back in their court. Instead of

explaining your position, ask them to explain theirs. If they keep on

and on, tell them yes, the optimal raw food diet provides everything

needed without having to resort to supplements (which are fractured

foods and made by man, anyway). I don't know of any vegetarian

animals that stand in the field, forest, or jungle and wonder if they

are getting the nutrition they need. They eat the food they are

designed to eat and we should do the same.

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , " terrirossihomeloans "

<terri_rossi wrote:

>

> Tommie, that is THE BEST! I feel like everyone says the same thing

> to me, so from now on I am totally going to steal that comeback!

>

> I LOVE IT!

>

> Terri

> rawfood , " Tommie " <jerushy@> wrote:

> >

> > My neighbor and I were talking one day and I said that I don't

eat

> > anything that has been cooked. He said, " Oh! That's not good! " I

> > asked him why not. He didn't answer and had a blank look on his

> face.

> > I said, " Do you think I'll get _too much_ nutrition? " I know I

get

> a

> > heckuva lot more than most people and that includes me a year ago.

> >

> > Tommie

> > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

> >

> > rawfood , " SV " <shavig@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I agree Margaret. People are funny about their food. Ever

> notice

> > how they

> > > always ask us where we get our protein, calcium, A, C,

> whatever.

> > But have

> > > they ever asked MacDonalds how much protein or calcium or

> whatever

> > is in

> > > their crapburgers?

> > >

> > > I'm sitting there (at school) drinking a green smoothie made

> from

> > dandelion

> > > greens (from my yard) and mangos. She asks if it is balanced

as

> > far as

> > > nutrition. I replied, " don't know, don't care. If I feed my

> body

> > this type

> > > of food it will take care of itself. " " But how do you KNOW you

> are

> > getting

> > > all the right nutrients? " ...See above answer.... And the

> whole

> > time she

> > > is eating her Lean Cuisine and drinking a diet something or

> other

> > poison.

> > >

> > > Makes me crazy.

> > >

> > > Shari

> > >

> >

>

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That is such a simple answer, but something that could actually work with my

in-laws! Instead of trying to explain myself next time, I'll just ask them

to explain why we *need* meat, dairy, etc. and just sit back and listen. :)

I feel silly that I haven't thought of it before! LOL! What I've always done

in the past is just defend my beliefs, get upset (and try not to show it)

and then we just don't talk about it anymore. Hmmmm.....no wonder we don't

have a good relationship! (Actually, there's a lot more to it that doesn't

even involve me, but that's another subject!)

 

Cindy

 

 

 

As far as most of the population is concerned, we are overdosing on

vitamins and minerals. Put the ball back in their court. Instead of

explaining your position, ask them to explain theirs. If they keep on

and on, tell them yes, the optimal raw food diet provides everything

needed without having to resort to supplements (which are fractured

foods and made by man, anyway). I don't know of any vegetarian

animals that stand in the field, forest, or jungle and wonder if they

are getting the nutrition they need. They eat the food they are

designed to eat and we should do the same.

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

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Just speaking from experience, I find that not making a big deal out

of my diet (to myself as well as to other people) saves me a lot of

headaches ;) I eat the way i eat because i feel heathiest and

happiest when i eat that way. And when people ask, that's what i tell

them. If they ask questions, i jump at the opportunity to share what

i've learned, but i never (well, with the exception of my mother ;)

tell them what's wrong with whatever they chose to eat. Sure, i'd love

if the world was raw and people were educated correctly when it comes

to nutrition, and i put my .02 in whenever possible, but i don't think

that being raw gives me any right to judge or criticize other people's

choices. I'm not saying that any body on this group does that, i'm

just sharing where i come from and what i've learned over the years

because, as we all know, it's a difficult thing to deal with a lot of

the time.

 

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I loved your response Bridgitte and totally agree.

 

Although I am not 100% raw I would like to be, but I find it too much of

chore right now. I am much more interested in being rather than worrying

about my health. This is easy to say since I am relativly healthy at the

moment. I have in the past had a lot of problems with Candida and even now

if I were to eat too much of certain foods I will see a return of many of

the symptoms. I beleive though that your health depends on your mind. I say

this but I still am not sure that the word " mind " is correct or should I be

using soul. My goal now is to be at peace. That I know has absolutely

nothing to do with what I eat or how healthy I am. But for people that are

not at peace, health, that is good health, makes it easier to come to that

stage. Once you have reached it, nothing in this world matters other than

that peace and the ability to extend it to your fellow inhabitants of this

world.

 

Love Peace

 

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Yeah, I don't bring up the issue because I know it will turn into a big

debate, but my FIL in particular attacks me on the issue very often. I try

to keep it out of conversation because I know where it will go in that

group, but he or one of my brothers-in-law has to bring it up. And then they

wonder why I don't have a sense of humor! Well, if they would discuss other

things that we ALL enjoy, maybe I'd laugh with them more often!

 

<SIGH> Like I said though, there is so much more to that whole issue. But

next time when they bring up the food issue, I will put the ball back in

their court and just let them defend their SAD food instead of me having

defending my highly nutritious diet. :)

 

Cindy

 

 

 

Just speaking from experience, I find that not making a big deal out

of my diet (to myself as well as to other people) saves me a lot of

headaches ;) I eat the way i eat because i feel heathiest and

happiest when i eat that way. And when people ask, that's what i tell

them. If they ask questions, i jump at the opportunity to share what

i've learned, but i never (well, with the exception of my mother ;)

tell them what's wrong with whatever they chose to eat. Sure, i'd love

if the world was raw and people were educated correctly when it comes

to nutrition, and i put my .02 in whenever possible, but i don't think

that being raw gives me any right to judge or criticize other people's

choices. I'm not saying that any body on this group does that, i'm

just sharing where i come from and what i've learned over the years

because, as we all know, it's a difficult thing to deal with a lot of

the time.

 

Bridgitte

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cindy, if and when it comes up, let us know how it went!

 

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rawfood , " pruegert " <pruegert wrote:

>

> That is such a simple answer, but something that could actually work

with my

> in-laws! Instead of trying to explain myself next time, I'll just

ask them

> to explain why we *need* meat, dairy, etc. and just sit back and

listen. :)

> I feel silly that I haven't thought of it before! LOL! What I've

always done

> in the past is just defend my beliefs, get upset (and try not to

show it)

> and then we just don't talk about it anymore. Hmmmm.....no wonder we

don't

> have a good relationship! (Actually, there's a lot more to it that

doesn't

> even involve me, but that's another subject!)

>

> Cindy

>

>

>

> As far as most of the population is concerned, we are overdosing on

> vitamins and minerals. Put the ball back in their court. Instead of

> explaining your position, ask them to explain theirs. If they keep

on

> and on, tell them yes, the optimal raw food diet provides everything

> needed without having to resort to supplements (which are fractured

> foods and made by man, anyway). I don't know of any vegetarian

> animals that stand in the field, forest, or jungle and wonder if

they

> are getting the nutrition they need. They eat the food they are

> designed to eat and we should do the same.

>

> Tommie

> http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

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Especially when I'm trying to eat. :) Lots of times, I spend more time

answering questions than I do chewing. I think that when it happens

again, I'll let it be known that there will be a question/answer

session after I get through with my meal. Believe me, I don't bring it

up. I have enough problems as it is. When the subject of how I've lost

so much weight is discussed, people want to know.

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , " Bridgitte " <syndactylcat wrote:

>

> Just speaking from experience, I find that not making a big deal out

> of my diet (to myself as well as to other people) saves me a lot of

> headaches ;) I eat the way i eat because i feel heathiest and

> happiest when i eat that way. And when people ask, that's what i

tell

> them. If they ask questions, i jump at the opportunity to share what

> i've learned, but i never (well, with the exception of my mother ;)

> tell them what's wrong with whatever they chose to eat. Sure, i'd

love

> if the world was raw and people were educated correctly when it

comes

> to nutrition, and i put my .02 in whenever possible, but i don't

think

> that being raw gives me any right to judge or criticize other

people's

> choices. I'm not saying that any body on this group does that, i'm

> just sharing where i come from and what i've learned over the years

> because, as we all know, it's a difficult thing to deal with a lot

of

> the time.

>

> Bridgitte

>

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Yep :) And Q & A time is a great idea!

 

Bridgitte

 

rawfood , " Tommie " <jerushy wrote:

>

> Especially when I'm trying to eat. :) Lots of times, I spend more time

> answering questions than I do chewing. I think that when it happens

> again, I'll let it be known that there will be a question/answer

> session after I get through with my meal. Believe me, I don't bring it

> up. I have enough problems as it is. When the subject of how I've lost

> so much weight is discussed, people want to know.

>

> Tommie

> http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

>

> rawfood , " Bridgitte " <syndactylcat@> wrote:

> >

> > Just speaking from experience, I find that not making a big deal out

> > of my diet (to myself as well as to other people) saves me a lot of

> > headaches ;) I eat the way i eat because i feel heathiest and

> > happiest when i eat that way. And when people ask, that's what i

> tell

> > them. If they ask questions, i jump at the opportunity to share what

> > i've learned, but i never (well, with the exception of my mother ;)

> > tell them what's wrong with whatever they chose to eat. Sure, i'd

> love

> > if the world was raw and people were educated correctly when it

> comes

> > to nutrition, and i put my .02 in whenever possible, but i don't

> think

> > that being raw gives me any right to judge or criticize other

> people's

> > choices. I'm not saying that any body on this group does that, i'm

> > just sharing where i come from and what i've learned over the years

> > because, as we all know, it's a difficult thing to deal with a lot

> of

> > the time.

> >

> > Bridgitte

> >

>

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Most definitely! :) Who knows what I would say if I wasn't *spiritually*

prepared! Yikes! LOL!

 

Cindy

 

 

 

Pray before you speak! ;)

 

Tommie

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rawfood , " pruegert " <pruegert wrote:

>

> I will, thanks!

>

> Keep me in your prayers! :)

>

> Cindy

>

>

>

> Cindy, if and when it comes up, let us know how it went!

>

> Tommie

> http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

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Judy wrote:

> Where I work at the school - 2nd grade kids bring their

> caffeine drinks and set them on their tables.

> They drink them all day long.

 

Wow! I am so out of it! I am single, with no children, so I don't

know what craziness happens in schools.

When I was in school, back in the age of sensibility (ha ha), we

couldnt have *anything* on our desks except our schoolbooks and

writing implements. There was no food and there were no drinks in our

classrooms (okay, except in our lunchbags, which we religiously did

not open until lunchtime) If we wanted something to drink, we had to

ask the teacher for permission to go to the water fountain, and, in

those days, we didn't, because we knew we might miss something really

important or interesting if we left the room-- only fear of wetting

her pants could get a 2nd grader out of the room in those days! and

since we couldn't be drinking all day, that didn't happen much!)

Oh, wow! the freedoms kids have now. I am so envious.(not!)

Margaret

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Another online friend once told the group we're in that her teen son asked

for some Doritos while they were grocery shopping. Her response was " Okay,

if you can read all the ingredients, I'll get them for you. " I think he made

an attempt but didn't get very far and told her " Okay, I get your point. "

LOL!

 

Cindy

 

Margaret wrote:

 

Thanks for seeing the humor.

I love your answer to your family.

In nutrition school, I was taught to read the labels. The joke was

that, if an ingredient was only letters, or if you couldn't pronounce

it, you probably shouldn't eat it.

Margaret

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Bridgitte:

I will have to second your opinion.

I've found that, when people, in their ignorance, tell me that my diet

isn't healthy (and I have been hearing this since I first started

a low carb diet!), the best thing I can do is to smile and tell them

it works for me, and suggest they try it, and then drop the topic.

A long time ago, my parents wanted me to become a missionary. Not so

long ago (maybe 20 or 30 years or so), I read somewhere that the best

way to convince someone that what you believe is right is to live your

life as you believe, and let them see it. When I came to terms with

my own beliefs, I found people asking me about them, whereas no one

had ever done so before.

When I began living with my room-mate, I was low carb, so I did not

eat the ubiquitious rice that was there and warm at all hours of the

day. At the time, I was not vegetarian or raw, but I ate only a small

amount of the meat she prepared, and I did not put her salad dressings

on my salads. She asked me why, and I told her the truth: there was

too much sugar in the food she cooked (yeah! Japanese food is loaded

with sugar). One day she came back and asked me how she could know if

food had sugar in it, and I explained to her how to read the labels --

even though the labels she was reading were in Japanese! I asked her

to show me the Japanese word for sugar, and I then matched it with her

food labels.... she has dropped a lot of foods from her diet since

then, and she prepares more foods from scratch, and she makes some of

the world's most lovely salads. She is not vegetarian, but she eats

what I prepare -- raw-- on my cooking days. She is still a cookie

fiend - she hides them from me, but I am sure she knows that I know

they are there-- and we have discussed that, considering that she is

diabetic. She is not going to change, probably (at least that was her

mother's dire prediction when she was diagnosed and I offered to

help), unless some day her rising consumption of insulin begins to

alarm her (right now, she seems to think it is " permission " to eat

more cookies.) Still she is eating better.

My mother roundly condemned the low carb diet when I started it....

and came back to deliver more spew when Atkins died.... but I lost 100

lbs. and have kept them off for 4 years... now she is doing her

version of low carb.

I think that living one's life in accordance with one's principles can

be a very seductive introduction for other people.

Margaret

 

Bridgitte wrote:

>

> I find that not making a big deal out of my diet (to myself

> as well as to other people) saves me a lot of headaches ;)

> I eat the way i eat because i feel heathiest and happiest

> when i eat that way. And when people ask, that's what i tell

> them.

<snip>

> Sure, i'd love if the world was raw and people were educated

> correctly when it comes to nutrition .... but i don't think

> that being raw gives me any right to judge or criticize other

> people's choices.

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Tommie wrote:

> When the subject of how I've lost so much weight is discussed,

> people want to know.

 

Isn't that so! (and then, half the time, they tell you that they

" could never do that " !)

I dropped 100 lbs. on low-carb, not raw, so I explain that. Then they

see me eating things that have only vegetables in them, and they say,

" but isn't that *carbs*? " , and I have to explain the whole concept of

" low carbs " and that it never has meant that you cannot eat your

vegetables and fruit.

And, yes, it can take a chunk out of your lunch-time! I have often

considered making a little xeroxed hand-out that explains the basics

and gives the titles of a few very basic non-political books to check

out. I could just push it their way while I was chewing and smiling,

and then answer their questions after my chew!

 

Margaret

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> I know what you mean, too. No matter how healthy I try to be, I feel

> like it is never going to be good enough!

 

actually, Susan, I am concerned that our " health-ocracy " continues to

trot out *warnings* to alarm us about this or that, without addressing

the real issues.

 

Have you ever noticed that news articles (even those in health

magazines) blame diabetes on overweight, or race, or age, or

inactivity, but NEVER on *sugar/starch* consumption.

 

Depression is blamed (on national TV) on a " chemical imbalance in the

brain " , but we are never told that the chemical that is imbalanced is

*serotonin " , and we are never told that, simply by eating right, and

getting enough protein and EFAs, our brains would be supplied

naturally with more than enough serotonin to prevent depression and/or

cure it.

 

I am not afraid to drink water or eat vegetables, as long as I know

their provenance. If the food I eat is natural (okay, I am an old

hippie), I trust that it will be at least as healthy as the food they

ate 100 years ago. Oops! They used to die a lot younger. Oh, yeah,

we have life-support. I have a living will to prevent that, and a DNR,

so I just have to eat right (as I believe right to be), and go on

living without worrying about dying.

Yes, I do worry about getting old -- I took a peek in the mirror this

morning - the old face looks like a road map -- am waiting for raw

food to kick in on that front -- otherwise, I will just have to go get

some botox or something.

Margaret

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Margaret, _I_ was the one saying, " I could NEVER do that " when my

daughter first told me that she was going to try eating raw food for

30 days. She made it for 34, I've made it for 336.

 

I do, roughly, 80% carbs, 10% fat, 10% protein. Try to explain that!

 

Tommie

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rawfood , " Margaret Gamez " <mgamez1 wrote:

>

> Tommie wrote:

> > When the subject of how I've lost so much weight is discussed,

> > people want to know.

>

> Isn't that so! (and then, half the time, they tell you that they

> " could never do that " !)

> I dropped 100 lbs. on low-carb, not raw, so I explain that. Then

they

> see me eating things that have only vegetables in them, and they

say,

> " but isn't that *carbs*? " , and I have to explain the whole concept

of

> " low carbs " and that it never has meant that you cannot eat your

> vegetables and fruit.

> And, yes, it can take a chunk out of your lunch-time! I have often

> considered making a little xeroxed hand-out that explains the basics

> and gives the titles of a few very basic non-political books to

check

> out. I could just push it their way while I was chewing and smiling,

> and then answer their questions after my chew!

>

> Margaret

>

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I agree Margaret. The other day I got all excited when I saw the headline

on the front of the newspaper: " 20 Things to Make You More Healthy " . Every

single of the 20 things was a drug!!! It was either aspirin for heart

attack, antacid for reflux, or a vaccine.

 

Another thing that makes me crazy!

 

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Tommie wrote:

> I do, roughly, 80% carbs, 10% fat, 10% protein.

 

Tee hee! didn't we just run through this kind of challenging

yesterday? (just joking)

When you talk to people on SAD, and you say they are going to have to

do 30% protein, 40% carbs, 30% fat, they panic. That is because they

are used to getting their carbs from things like bread, noodles,

potatoes, and rice -- all *high-glycemic* carbs.

 

Of course, if you are on a raw vegan diet, everything, basically, is

carbs. The difference is that, unless all you are eating is bananas,

or carrots, the probability that you are eating a " low-carb " diet is

quite high.

Let's just take your cheese recipe, for instance. The nuts provide fat

and protein. Bell peppers are low carb. The fiber involved puts the

recipe almost into a negative net carb situation.

 

One of the common misconceptions, when people look at a low carb diet,

is that vegetables and fruit will not be allowed. Of course, the

people who are doing this kind of worrying are looking at the

" entry-level " allowance of 25 grams of carbs. (2 cups of raw spinach

is only 4 grams of carbs.. where is the worry?)

If you are eating nuts, seeds, and/or sprouts, along with your

vegetables, you are probably getting the protein without even thinking

about it. I have actually met raw-foodists who have told me that they

never eat protein (but also have told me that they eat nuts and seeds

and sprouts -- sources of protein in a raw food diet!)

 

Now, I am not going to tell you how much of what you should eat - you

are still alive on your diet, which I really have not observed in

detail and do not intend to. It works for you. What you have told us

of it inspires many, including me.

Margaret

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I can see you passing out a flyer with big, bold letters at the top: FAQs!

That's too funny. :)

 

Cindy

 

 

 

And, yes, it can take a chunk out of your lunch-time! I have often

considered making a little xeroxed hand-out that explains the basics

and gives the titles of a few very basic non-political books to check

out. I could just push it their way while I was chewing and smiling,

and then answer their questions after my chew!

 

Margaret

 

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