Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Processed food is addictive. I used to think it was sugan, flour, fat, but now I have come to believe all cooked or heated is processed and addictive because there is no life left in the food and we want more to find the Life-supporting food. I have asked my libraary to order this for me, I bet it will be helpful. If not - they can get it on inter-library loain. Otherwise I will order it: " 12 Steps to Raw Food: How to End Your Addiction to Cooked Food. " by Victoria Boutenko Louise Message 7 " dmbtiger " dmbtiger Fri May 26, 2006 5:19pm(PDT) How do you get there from here? I joined this group for a very specific reason. For most of my life my diet was meat, potatoes and Southern Comfort (Who the hell needs potatoes?) After two carotid endarterectomies, I am reall worried about the fact that what I eat is killing me. But my food habits are so carved in stone after many years of unhealthy eating, that I don't know how to get myself to do the right thing. Even fear of death doesn't seem to do it. I think what I need is some sort of intelligent behavior modification plan. Years ago I studied Taijiquan with a student of Erle Montagu's who followed a rule of never eat any processed foods. Intellectually it made sense to me, but that didn't help translate it into behavior. My question is, have any of you ever found yourself in my position and, if so, how did you go about changing your habits if you started out loving meat and actually rather disliking fruits and vegetables? Dan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Louise, I totally agree that processed food is addictive. There are certain additives that manufacturers put in to keep people wanting more. The bottom line is the bottom line--MONEY! And they don't care if eating their products causes disease and death. As for the books, remember that Victoria Boutenko has drastically modified her diet since she wrote 12 Steps. Her latest, _Green for Life_ is excellent. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , Joyloulin wrote: > > Processed food is addictive. I used to think it was sugan, flour, fat, but > now I have come to believe all cooked or heated is processed and addictive > because there is no life left in the food and we want more to find the > Life-supporting food. > > I have asked my libraary to order this for me, I bet it will be helpful. If > not - they can get it on inter-library loain. Otherwise I will order it: " 12 > Steps to Raw Food: How to End Your Addiction to Cooked Food. " by Victoria > Boutenko > > Louise > > > Message 7 > " dmbtiger " dmbtiger > Fri May 26, 2006 5:19pm(PDT) > How do you get there from here? > > I joined this group for a very specific reason. For most of my life my diet > was meat, potatoes and Southern Comfort (Who the hell needs potatoes?) After > two carotid endarterectomies, I am reall worried about the fact that what I > eat is killing me. But my food habits are so carved in stone after many years > of unhealthy eating, that I don't know how to get myself to do the right thing. > Even fear of death doesn't seem to do it. I think what I need is some sort > of intelligent behavior modification plan. Years ago I studied Taijiquan with > a student of Erle Montagu's who followed a rule of never eat any processed > foods. Intellectually it made sense to me, but that didn't help translate it > into behavior. > > My question is, have any of you ever found yourself in my position and, if > so, how did you go about changing your habits if you started out loving meat and > actually rather disliking fruits and vegetables? > > Dan> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 A great book about additives is by Paul Stitt, something about food and behavior. Can't come up with the exact title and I loaned mine out. He used to work for Nabisco or one of the food companies and he talks about all the things they add to food. Oreos have something like 27 different addictive additives because you might not be addicted to the same thing I am and they want to make sure they cover all their evil bases. Fritos are loaded with additives as well and they are made from GMO corn. Shop in the produce section and you'll be fine, IF you buy organic. And now even that is at question. Guess we'll all have to move to the tropics and live off the land. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Shari, I found this>> http://www.whale.to/v/stitt_b.html Is it the same as your book? If it is, it looks like we can read it online. If I ate only organic, I would starve. I buy the best quality I can and organic when it's available. If I were independently wealthy, I could move to Costa Rica and live off the land but that isn't an option. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , " SV " <shavig wrote: > > A great book about additives is by Paul Stitt, something about food and > behavior. Can't come up with the exact title and I loaned mine out. He > used to work for Nabisco or one of the food companies and he talks about all > the things they add to food. Oreos have something like 27 different > addictive additives because you might not be addicted to the same thing I am > and they want to make sure they cover all their evil bases. Fritos are > loaded with additives as well and they are made from GMO corn. > > Shop in the produce section and you'll be fine, IF you buy organic. And now > even that is at question. Guess we'll all have to move to the tropics and > live off the land. > > Shari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 That would be him. Or is it he? Anyway that's the guy. I feel bad that people can't have access to only organic. The only time I shop in a conventional store is for the school and that is sad. Otherwise I only shop the co-op that only carries organic and I have organic produce delivered every Tuesday to my home. I can't even think of anything in my refrigerator that is not organic and we certainly are not starving! And it's not anymore expensive than what anyone pays for SAD eating. I'm feeding four people and the only time I balk at prices is during the winter when avos are around $3 per. Then we go without, but other than that I can't tell you when was the last time we bought anything at a Safeway or Albertson's and we've NEVER set foot in a Walmart. People should not have to make a decision about their food and their health. Organic should be the norm. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 It's wonderful that you have so many options! I wouldn't know how to act! If I cooked, I could order larger quantities from the organic co- op and " put it up " . As it is, I order it and use it before it goes bad. The co-op gets produce from two different vendors and the quality is definitely different from one to the other. I was overjoyed when I was going to be able to order twice a month instead of just one until I didn't get _any_ of the fruit I ordered from the additional one and the veggies were inferior. I would rather get high quality commercial produce than poor quality organic. Doug Graham says that it's better to eat raw commercial than cooked organic. Not that any of us would ruin it by cooking it... Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , " SV " <shavig wrote: > > That would be him. Or is it he? Anyway that's the guy. > > I feel bad that people can't have access to only organic. The only time I > shop in a conventional store is for the school and that is sad. Otherwise I > only shop the co-op that only carries organic and I have organic produce > delivered every Tuesday to my home. I can't even think of anything in my > refrigerator that is not organic and we certainly are not starving! > > And it's not anymore expensive than what anyone pays for SAD eating. I'm > feeding four people and the only time I balk at prices is during the winter > when avos are around $3 per. Then we go without, but other than that I > can't tell you when was the last time we bought anything at a Safeway or > Albertson's and we've NEVER set foot in a Walmart. > > People should not have to make a decision about their food and their health. > Organic should be the norm. > > Shari > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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