support

[Guest guest]

It seems as though there are a bunch of us that are " on our own. "

Today, I had some major cravings for bread-type things. It's hard

when you are the only one raw in a house full of SAD eaters. I caved

today and ate a croissant. I didn't want to, but I did. I feel a lot

of guilt, but I am trying not to let it get me down. Does anyone want

to be my raw support buddy?

 

Amanda

[Guest guest]

Amanda,

 

I'd be happy to be your buddy. Bread is where I've faultered too, I

think because I let myself get too hungry sometimes and don't have

something soothing like an avocado or a banana on hand and the mere

idea of eating a fruit or veggie makes my stomach hurt. I think this

high/low glycemia will smoothe out after I've made it a few weeks on

raw though. I finally threw away the bag of tortilla chips I'd jumped

ship for several times. It's such a challenge having that stuff in the

house!

 

~Sheri

[Guest guest]

I think you will find that after you have been doing this for a while

(and not a long while either) that your blood sugar does level out and

hunger is no longer a desparate thing but a pleasnt sensation.

 

For me the hardest thing about adjusting to being raw was getting used

to a different sense of satiation. Before it was having a full stomach

of slow processing foods and then it became just not being hungry. I

missed that feeling for a long time until I began to understand that it

was a false sense of satiation and that eating to satisfy my hunger and

still feeling energetic was the goal.

 

-Mike

 

--- sherimeshal <sherimeshal wrote:

 

> Amanda,

>

> I'd be happy to be your buddy. Bread is where I've faultered too, I

> think because I let myself get too hungry sometimes and don't have

> something soothing like an avocado or a banana on hand and the mere

> idea of eating a fruit or veggie makes my stomach hurt. I think this

>

> high/low glycemia will smoothe out after I've made it a few weeks on

> raw though. I finally threw away the bag of tortilla chips I'd

> jumped

> ship for several times. It's such a challenge having that stuff in

> the

> house!

>

> ~Sheri

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amanda,

 

There is no need to feel guilty. This is not a diet. You can eat

anything you wish. If you stay raw long enough, you will crave cooked

products less and when you eat cooked foods will feel not as good

(physically) as when you don't. It is not a crime to not be 100% raw

100% of the time.

 

I was almost 100% raw for a year and then over the course of the next

year slowed reverted back to a predominantly cooked diet. I gained 30

pounds, my energy level dropped, my mind was less clear, etc and now I

am moving back to a 100% raw and the weight is coming off, my energy

level is better, mind is clearer, etc. However, once I am back in the

groove, I will from time to time eat some cooked foods. Sometimes, when

you are out to dinner with friends it is not possible to be completely

raw so I'll compromise and eat some cooked food. I'll try to keep it as

minimally processed as I can and drink more water to compensate. I

won't feel guilty about it though as I know I can eat anything I want.

I generally choose to be raw, but sometimes I choose cooked and that is

ok.

 

-Mike

 

--- amanda_feagin <amanda_feagin wrote:

 

> It seems as though there are a bunch of us that are " on our own. "

> Today, I had some major cravings for bread-type things. It's hard

> when you are the only one raw in a house full of SAD eaters. I caved

> today and ate a croissant. I didn't want to, but I did. I feel a

> lot

> of guilt, but I am trying not to let it get me down. Does anyone

> want

> to be my raw support buddy?

>

> Amanda

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amanda,

 

I cannot speak for you, or anyone else here, but I know for me, the

bread-type, cookie-type cravings were some of my biggest deamons. I did find

through the process that the " grandma's cookies " cravings (what I called them)

always ended up being an emotional cover. I found if I was willing to " tough it

out " through the craving that I would come to some emotion that I was wanting to

avoid and when I came to that emotion I would either deal with it go through the

process or decide I was not ready to deal with it. Through tears and fears I got

through the " grandma's cookies " cravings and got rid of a lot of emotional

baggage. The process was not necessarily easy, but it was liberating. Every once

in a while I will get the craving now... but now I reccognize that there are

some emotions I need to explore or be prepared to explore. Since you say you

feel guilty for eating it afterwards, that would lead me to think that there are

some emotions you too may be not facing. Take

the guilt out first and then proceed from there. Every journey begins with the

first step and you can't take all the steps on your journey with the first one -

there are no shortcuts to life. Take care and happy eating.

 

amanda_feagin <amanda_feagin wrote:

It seems as though there are a bunch of us that are " on our own. "

Today, I had some major cravings for bread-type things. It's hard

when you are the only one raw in a house full of SAD eaters. I caved

today and ate a croissant. I didn't want to, but I did. I feel a lot

of guilt, but I am trying not to let it get me down. Does anyone want

to be my raw support buddy?

 

Amanda

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

True, this is a free country and we can do what we want. We reap the

consequences--whether they are good or bad. I was out with a friend

yesterday and she was saying " You can't drink this " or " You can't eat

that " . I told her I can eat or drink anything that I want to. I

choose not to eat the things that aren't good for me.

 

As for eating out, I have done that many times and managed to stay

raw. I call ahead and find out what's available and either eat before

to make sure I'm not going to be so hungry I crave cooked or take

food with me or both. It's like a Scout. Be prepared!

 

Tommie

http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com

 

rawfood , Mike Elliot <mmelliot wrote:

>

> Amanda,

>

> There is no need to feel guilty. This is not a diet. You can eat

> anything you wish. If you stay raw long enough, you will crave

cooked

> products less and when you eat cooked foods will feel not as good

> (physically) as when you don't. It is not a crime to not be 100% raw

> 100% of the time.

>

> I was almost 100% raw for a year and then over the course of the

next

> year slowed reverted back to a predominantly cooked diet. I gained

30

> pounds, my energy level dropped, my mind was less clear, etc and

now I

> am moving back to a 100% raw and the weight is coming off, my energy

> level is better, mind is clearer, etc. However, once I am back in

the

> groove, I will from time to time eat some cooked foods. Sometimes,

when

> you are out to dinner with friends it is not possible to be

completely

> raw so I'll compromise and eat some cooked food. I'll try to keep

it as

> minimally processed as I can and drink more water to compensate. I

> won't feel guilty about it though as I know I can eat anything I

want.

> I generally choose to be raw, but sometimes I choose cooked and

that is

> ok.

>

> -Mike

>

> --- amanda_feagin <amanda_feagin wrote:

>

> > It seems as though there are a bunch of us that are " on our own. "

> > Today, I had some major cravings for bread-type things. It's hard

> > when you are the only one raw in a house full of SAD eaters. I

caved

> > today and ate a croissant. I didn't want to, but I did. I feel a

> > lot

> > of guilt, but I am trying not to let it get me down. Does anyone

> > want

> > to be my raw support buddy?

> >

> > Amanda

[Guest guest]

Sheri,

 

Sorry if I've missed something or am re-stating, I

entered this discussion a little late.

 

Have you made your own tortilla chips? I make my own

all the time and they're fabulous! They are easy to

make, too. I found that when I was first going raw, it

was harder for me, too in those ways (bread, tortilla

chips, snacks). But now that I can make stuff like

that I do and I don't miss it as much when I don't

have it on hand. I think it might be psychological in

the same manner in which dieters faulter. They feel as

if something is " off limits " and therefore it causes

cravings and eventually leads to a binge. Or two :>)

 

I know that some people don't like to eat so many

grains, but I feel they help me not need regular junk

food so much. I make granola with nuts & seeds,

tortilla chips with corn, veggies & flax, (or just

corn & flax), flat bread with walnuts & sun dried

tomatoes, apple-cinnamon crepes, cocoa-krispies (with

buckwheat), and of course, the oatmeal and oatmeal

cookies I mentioned.

 

I had tortilla chips all weekend, and have not wanted

them now all week and actually haven't felt like I

wanted any grains. I never really crave a thing on

raw, and actually eat a lot less and a lot less often

on raw. It used to be when I got home from work at

5:00 or so, I HAD to have something to eat right away.

I never feel that way any more.

 

My partner does not believe the raw foods all the time

are good for him. (We've always eaten extremely

healthfully). He'll eat what I make if he's too tired

to cook something for himself and he always loves it.

What I have to do is be sure to have food that I want

on-hand and have it ready for my dinner. Then he cooks

and I chop & blend. He'll tease me about needing mor

blenders & food processors, but I don't let it bother

me. As someone mentioned the other day on this list, I

just KNOW that this is the right thing to do for me.

 

Sorry if that was too long!!! Hope it helps.

 

Melanie

[Guest guest]

You don't think you can get away with bragging about making your own

tortilla chips without giving us the recipe do you? :-)

 

-Mike

 

--- " Melanie Burtis, Ph.D. " <melanieburtis wrote:

 

> Sheri,

>

> Sorry if I've missed something or am re-stating, I

> entered this discussion a little late.

>

> Have you made your own tortilla chips? I make my own

> all the time and they're fabulous! They are easy to

> make, too. I found that when I was first going raw, it

> was harder for me, too in those ways (bread, tortilla

> chips, snacks). But now that I can make stuff like

> that I do and I don't miss it as much when I don't

> have it on hand. I think it might be psychological in

> the same manner in which dieters faulter. They feel as

> if something is " off limits " and therefore it causes

> cravings and eventually leads to a binge. Or two :>)

>

> I know that some people don't like to eat so many

> grains, but I feel they help me not need regular junk

> food so much. I make granola with nuts & seeds,

> tortilla chips with corn, veggies & flax, (or just

> corn & flax), flat bread with walnuts & sun dried

> tomatoes, apple-cinnamon crepes, cocoa-krispies (with

> buckwheat), and of course, the oatmeal and oatmeal

> cookies I mentioned.

>

> I had tortilla chips all weekend, and have not wanted

> them now all week and actually haven't felt like I

> wanted any grains. I never really crave a thing on

> raw, and actually eat a lot less and a lot less often

> on raw. It used to be when I got home from work at

> 5:00 or so, I HAD to have something to eat right away.

> I never feel that way any more.

>

> My partner does not believe the raw foods all the time

> are good for him. (We've always eaten extremely

> healthfully). He'll eat what I make if he's too tired

> to cook something for himself and he always loves it.

> What I have to do is be sure to have food that I want

> on-hand and have it ready for my dinner. Then he cooks

> and I chop & blend. He'll tease me about needing mor

> blenders & food processors, but I don't let it bother

> me. As someone mentioned the other day on this list, I

> just KNOW that this is the right thing to do for me.

>

> Sorry if that was too long!!! Hope it helps.

>

> Melanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike - I loved your response.

Thanks for the encouragement for us all.

Judy in Phx

 

On 6/15/06, Mike Elliot <mmelliot wrote:

>

> Amanda,

>

> There is no need to feel guilty. This is not a diet. You can eat

> anything you wish. If you stay raw long enough, you will crave cooked

> products less and when you eat cooked foods will feel not as good

> (physically) as when you don't. It is not a crime to not be 100% raw

> 100% of the time.

>

> I was almost 100% raw for a year and then over the course of the next

> year slowed reverted back to a predominantly cooked diet. I gained 30

> pounds, my energy level dropped, my mind was less clear, etc and now I

> am moving back to a 100% raw and the weight is coming off, my energy

> level is better, mind is clearer, etc. However, once I am back in the

> groove, I will from time to time eat some cooked foods. Sometimes, when

> you are out to dinner with friends it is not possible to be completely

> raw so I'll compromise and eat some cooked food. I'll try to keep it as

> minimally processed as I can and drink more water to compensate. I

> won't feel guilty about it though as I know I can eat anything I want.

> I generally choose to be raw, but sometimes I choose cooked and that is

> ok.

>

> -Mike

>

>

> --- amanda_feagin <amanda_feagin <amanda_feagin%40>>

> wrote:

>

> > It seems as though there are a bunch of us that are " on our own. "

> > Today, I had some major cravings for bread-type things. It's hard

> > when you are the only one raw in a house full of SAD eaters. I caved

> > today and ate a croissant. I didn't want to, but I did. I feel a

> > lot

> > of guilt, but I am trying not to let it get me down. Does anyone

> > want

> > to be my raw support buddy?

> >

> > Amanda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

LOL!!!

 

Well, I don't really follow a RECIPE per se, but here you go:

 

Recipe #1:

 

1 10oz bag of organic frozen corn, thawed (why anyone ever feels the

need to cook this corn, I'll never understand)

 

3/4 cup ground flax

a little water

seasonings -- fresh/dried herbs, garlic powder, onion powder & salt to

taste

 

Blend fully in a food processor. Spread on teflext sheets very thin.

Dehydrate at 105. Mid-way through drying, when sheet is solid, take

off teflex and cut into triangles. Then put on mesh sheets and

continue to dry until crisp.

 

Recipe #2: (comes from Raw Food Real Word book) Also, it's off the top

of my head as I'm at work and I never follow recipes to a T anyway

 

3 cups fresh corn kernels

1 cup chopped red bell pepper

2 jalapenos, chopped

1/2 onion, chopped

1 cup golden flax seed, ground

sea salt (I actually use himalayan crystal salt)

 

Process in food processor. Spread thinly onto teflex dehydrator sheets

(3). I love the teflex sheets, but yes, they are spendy. Dry to a

point where you can cut into triangles.

 

This recipe is GREAT for taco shells, too. When the sheet is pliable,

cut circles out of each sheet, and then bend in half and continue

drying on the mesh until solid. Fill with goodies -- shredded lettuce

& cabbage, tomatoes, avocados, corn, salsa, etc. Also, you can grind

up soaked sunflower seeds and season with tex-mex flavors (chili

powder, cumin, etc.) and put those in the taco shell.

 

Recipe #2 has a lot more flavor than #1, but #1 is SO easy.

 

Enjoy!

 

rawfood , Mike Elliot <mmelliot wrote:

>

> You don't think you can get away with bragging about making your own

> tortilla chips without giving us the recipe do you? :-)

>

> -Mike

>

[Guest guest]

" why anyone ever feels the need to cook this corn, I'll never understand) "

 

You do realize that frozen corn is cooked corn, don't you? Anything

commercially frozen has been at least blanched if not cooked.

 

Shari

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Melanie,

When you say tortilla chips from corn and flax, are those the only

ingredients and where do you all recommend getting your flax? I bought

some corn and ate it raw for the first time yesterday. I was so

surprised that it was so good!

 

~Sheri

[Guest guest]

Didn't read far enough down - thanks for the recipes!

 

~Sheri

[Guest guest]

I have been unable to read posts for a few days so I am just

catching up. Always such interesting reading!

 

I have to say, Inoit, I absolutely love what you said here. Thank

you so much for writing this post. You spoke to me here, too, and

probably several others.

 

 

rawfood , Inoit Sowell <inoit_sowell

wrote:

>

> Amanda,

>

> I cannot speak for you, or anyone else here, but I know for me,

the bread-type, cookie-type cravings were some of my biggest

deamons. I did find through the process that the " grandma's cookies "

cravings (what I called them) always ended up being an emotional

cover. I found if I was willing to " tough it out " through the

craving that I would come to some emotion that I was wanting to

avoid and when I came to that emotion I would either deal with it go

through the process or decide I was not ready to deal with it.

Through tears and fears I got through the " grandma's cookies "

cravings and got rid of a lot of emotional baggage. The process was

not necessarily easy, but it was liberating. Every once in a while I

will get the craving now... but now I reccognize that there are some

emotions I need to explore or be prepared to explore. Since you say

you feel guilty for eating it afterwards, that would lead me to

think that there are some emotions you too may be not facing. Take

> the guilt out first and then proceed from there. Every journey

begins with the first step and you can't take all the steps on your

journey with the first one - there are no shortcuts to life. Take

care and happy eating.

>

> amanda_feagin <amanda_feagin wrote:

> It seems as though there are a bunch of us that are " on

our own. "

> Today, I had some major cravings for bread-type things. It's hard

> when you are the only one raw in a house full of SAD eaters. I

caved

> today and ate a croissant. I didn't want to, but I did. I feel a

lot

> of guilt, but I am trying not to let it get me down. Does anyone

want

> to be my raw support buddy?

>

> Amanda

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's especially good when you eat it right off the stalk, warmed by the sun!

YUM! I especially like just-picked, still warm okra!

 

Cindy

 

 

 

I bought some corn and ate it raw for the first time yesterday. I was so

surprised that it was so good!

 

~Sheri

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[Guest guest]

Should have read all of me email before posting my question, but thanks

for answering my question even before I asked it :-)

 

-Mike

 

--- SV <shavig wrote:

 

> " why anyone ever feels the need to cook this corn, I'll never

> understand) "

>

> You do realize that frozen corn is cooked corn, don't you? Anything

> commercially frozen has been at least blanched if not cooked.

>

> Shari

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sheri-

Do you have a health food store near you? You should

be able to find flax seed there. It is important that

it is refrigerated in the store. Don't buy any flax

that has ben stored in unrefrigerated bulk bins.

:)Angela

 

--- sherimeshal <sherimeshal wrote:

 

> Melanie,

> When you say tortilla chips from corn and flax, are

> those the only

> ingredients and where do you all recommend getting

> your flax? I bought

> some corn and ate it raw for the first time

> yesterday. I was so

> surprised that it was so good!

>

> ~Sheri

>

>

 

[Guest guest]

> You do realize that frozen corn is cooked corn, don't you? Anything

commercially frozen

has been at least blanched if not cooked.

>

> Shari

 

Shari,

 

NO! Had no idea. Bummer! However, it didn't stop me from buying another bag

today :>)

 

I don't think I'd be able to give up the corn, it's a staple! However, I will be

buying tons of it

fresh on the cob this summer.

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " sherimeshal " <sherimeshal wrote:

>

> Melanie,

> When you say tortilla chips from corn and flax, are those the only

> ingredients and where do you all recommend getting your flax? I bought

> some corn and ate it raw for the first time yesterday. I was so

> surprised that it was so good!

>

> ~Sheri

>

Pretty much -- I added some dried seasonings such as Himalayan crystal salt,

garlic powder,

onion powder, cumin, etc. The only thing is, they got a little sticky in the

mouth from the

flax. I get my flax at my grocery store or co-op -- Bob's red mill organic. I

hope no one tell's

me this stuff isn't really raw :>)