Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 rawfood , vegwriter wrote: > 1. Editorial: A recent New York Times article said that babies do best on > breast milk. We believe that's because mother's milk is a raw food, and is body > temperature, with its enzymes intact; breastfeeding babies are therefore not > drinking pasteurized (cooked) formula! The mainstream media and science > haven't realized this yet. > On the same note, I've also begun to wonder about vitamins & anti-oxidants being " alive " as important, and not just the enzymes. Think about this -- there has been much published in recent years regarding vitamins, herbs, and anti-oxidants being an integral aspect of health maintenance which has exploded the bottled nutrition industry. Some studies have proven the efficacy of taking herbs, vitamins, and anti-oxidants to help certain body functions and deficient conditions. I also read somewhere, although I can't remember where, that many vitamins and nutrients (not just enzymes) are destroyed from cooking. Now take into consideration how many people are " cured " from supposedly life-long chronic illnesses such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc., etc. The research with which I am familiar (I am a PhD), asserts that many of these illnesses can be cured through vitamin/anti-oxidant therapy such as high doses of vitamin C, Co-Q10, and Quercetin for cancer. My theory -- Could it be that NO ONE on earth is getting their proper nutrition because they are all eating predominantly cooked food? Could it be that not only are the enzymes destroyed, but that all other important nutrients are also destroyed producing a preponderance of waste products which back up in the body and cause further damage? Could that be one reason there is an increase in obesity -- that people are continually hungry for proper nutrition and they eat so much because their bodies are still craving nutrients? Could it be that the human body is just so extremely capable of adapting and life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a depleted nutritional state? Has anyone else thought about this? Has it been proposed by other researchers? Is there a book out there that covers this info? Melanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Melanie, I agree. Not only are most health problems related from poor nutrition, but also toxins in the food themselves. Raw and organic is definitely the way to go. Why aren't we seeing research being done in this area? There is no money to be made from it. No pills to sell. Most research is funded by corporate interests and aside from some organic farmers (and society in general :-) who would benefit from sponsoring this research? Not the pharmacuetical companies, not the processed food companies, not... -Mike --- melanieburtis <melanieburtis wrote: > rawfood , vegwriter wrote: > > > 1. Editorial: A recent New York Times article said that babies do > best on > > breast milk. We believe that's because mother's milk is a raw > food, and is body > > temperature, with its enzymes intact; breastfeeding babies are > therefore not > > drinking pasteurized (cooked) formula! The mainstream media and > science > > haven't realized this yet. > > > > On the same note, I've also begun to wonder about vitamins & > anti-oxidants being " alive " > as important, and not just the enzymes. Think about this -- there has > been much > published in recent years regarding vitamins, herbs, and > anti-oxidants being an integral > aspect of health maintenance which has exploded the bottled nutrition > industry. Some > studies have proven the efficacy of taking herbs, vitamins, and > anti-oxidants to help > certain body functions and deficient conditions. > > I also read somewhere, although I can't remember where, that many > vitamins and > nutrients (not just enzymes) are destroyed from cooking. > > Now take into consideration how many people are " cured " from > supposedly life-long > chronic illnesses such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc., etc. The research > with which I am familiar (I am a PhD), asserts that many of these > illnesses can be cured > through vitamin/anti-oxidant therapy such as high doses of vitamin C, > Co-Q10, and > Quercetin for cancer. > > My theory -- Could it be that NO ONE on earth is getting their proper > nutrition because > they are all eating predominantly cooked food? Could it be that not > only are the enzymes > destroyed, but that all other important nutrients are also destroyed > producing a > preponderance of waste products which back up in the body and cause > further damage? > Could that be one reason there is an increase in obesity -- that > people are continually > hungry for proper nutrition and they eat so much because their bodies > are still craving > nutrients? Could it be that the human body is just so extremely > capable of adapting and > life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a depleted > nutritional state? > > Has anyone else thought about this? Has it been proposed by other > researchers? Is there a > book out there that covers this info? > > Melanie > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Have you read _Beating the Food Giants_ by Paul Stitt? It's out of print but you can read it online here>> http://snipurl.com/sl4w. If you want to skip to the chapter on " CAN'T EAT JUST ONE " SYNDROME! click here>> http://snipurl.com/slfm. It will open your eyes to what's going on in the food industry. And adding vitamins and minerals to processed food doesn't really help. The only way we can get what we need is from good whole fresh foods. There's a balance in them that people " building " food can't match. Have you watched any of the chemistry projects that pass for prepared foods on the Food Network? I'm talking, specifically, about " Unwrapped " . It's amazing what goes into the junk people eat. And I had my share, too, until I got older and wiser. :[ Tommie http://rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , " melanieburtis " <melanieburtis wrote: > > rawfood , vegwriter@ wrote: > > > 1. Editorial: A recent New York Times article said that babies do best on > > breast milk. We believe that's because mother's milk is a raw food, and is body > > temperature, with its enzymes intact; breastfeeding babies are therefore not > > drinking pasteurized (cooked) formula! The mainstream media and science > > haven't realized this yet. > > > > On the same note, I've also begun to wonder about vitamins & anti- oxidants being " alive " > as important, and not just the enzymes. Think about this -- there has been much > published in recent years regarding vitamins, herbs, and anti- oxidants being an integral > aspect of health maintenance which has exploded the bottled nutrition industry. Some > studies have proven the efficacy of taking herbs, vitamins, and anti-oxidants to help > certain body functions and deficient conditions. > > I also read somewhere, although I can't remember where, that many vitamins and > nutrients (not just enzymes) are destroyed from cooking. > > Now take into consideration how many people are " cured " from supposedly life-long > chronic illnesses such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc., etc. The research > with which I am familiar (I am a PhD), asserts that many of these illnesses can be cured > through vitamin/anti-oxidant therapy such as high doses of vitamin C, Co-Q10, and > Quercetin for cancer. > > My theory -- Could it be that NO ONE on earth is getting their proper nutrition because > they are all eating predominantly cooked food? Could it be that not only are the enzymes > destroyed, but that all other important nutrients are also destroyed producing a > preponderance of waste products which back up in the body and cause further damage? > Could that be one reason there is an increase in obesity -- that people are continually > hungry for proper nutrition and they eat so much because their bodies are still craving > nutrients? Could it be that the human body is just so extremely capable of adapting and > life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a depleted nutritional state? > > Has anyone else thought about this? Has it been proposed by other researchers? Is there a > book out there that covers this info? > > Melanie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 In a message dated 7/1/2006 6:02:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, melanieburtis writes: rawfood , vegwriter wrote: > 1. Editorial: A recent New York Times article said that babies do best on > breast milk. We believe that's because mother's milk is a raw food, and is body > temperature, with its enzymes intact; breastfeeding babies are therefore not > drinking pasteurized (cooked) formula! The mainstream media and science > haven't realized this yet. > On the same note, I've also begun to wonder about vitamins & anti-oxidants being " alive " as important, and not just the enzymes. Think about this -- there has been much published in recent years regarding vitamins, herbs, and anti-oxidants being an integral aspect of health maintenance which has exploded the bottled nutrition industry. Some studies have proven the efficacy of taking herbs, vitamins, and anti-oxidants to help certain body functions and deficient conditions. I also read somewhere, although I can't remember where, that many vitamins and nutrients (not just enzymes) are destroyed from cooking. Now take into consideration how many people are " cured " from supposedly life-long chronic illnesses such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc., etc. The research with which I am familiar (I am a PhD), asserts that many of these illnesses can be cured through vitamin/anti-oxidant therapy such as high doses of vitamin C, Co-Q10, and Quercetin for cancer. My theory -- Could it be that NO ONE on earth is getting their proper nutrition because they are all eating predominantly cooked food? Could it be that not only are the enzymes destroyed, but that all other important nutrients are also destroyed producing a preponderance of waste products which back up in the body and cause further damage? Could that be one reason there is an increase in obesity -- that people are continually hungry for proper nutrition and they eat so much because their bodies are still craving nutrients? Could it be that the human body is just so extremely capable of adapting and life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a depleted nutritional state? Has anyone else thought about this? Has it been proposed by other researchers? Is there a book out there that covers this info? Melanie I think that most raw foods authors believe what you just said. Gabriel Cousens, for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Indeed, the lack of research is related to the lack of profit. No company owns a patent for raw fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds. It's the way our system is structured. Judy In a message dated 7/1/2006 6:22:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mmelliot writes: Melanie, I agree. Not only are most health problems related from poor nutrition, but also toxins in the food themselves. Raw and organic is definitely the way to go. Why aren't we seeing research being done in this area? There is no money to be made from it. No pills to sell. Most research is funded by corporate interests and aside from some organic farmers (and society in general :-) who would benefit from sponsoring this research? Not the pharmacuetical companies, not the processed food companies, not... -Mike --- melanieburtis <melanieburtis wrote: > rawfood , vegwriter wrote: > > > 1. Editorial: A recent New York Times article said that babies do > best on > > breast milk. We believe that's because mother's milk is a raw > food, and is body > > temperature, with its enzymes intact; breastfeeding babies are > therefore not > > drinking pasteurized (cooked) formula! The mainstream media and > science > > haven't realized this yet. > > > > On the same note, I've also begun to wonder about vitamins & > anti-oxidants being " alive " > as important, and not just the enzymes. Think about this -- there has > been much > published in recent years regarding vitamins, herbs, and > anti-oxidants being an integral > aspect of health maintenance which has exploded the bottled nutrition > industry. Some > studies have proven the efficacy of taking herbs, vitamins, and > anti-oxidants to help > certain body functions and deficient conditions. > > I also read somewhere, although I can't remember where, that many > vitamins and > nutrients (not just enzymes) are destroyed from cooking. > > Now take into consideration how many people are " cured " from > supposedly life-long > chronic illnesses such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc., etc. The research > with which I am familiar (I am a PhD), asserts that many of these > illnesses can be cured > through vitamin/anti-oxidant therapy such as high doses of vitamin C, > Co-Q10, and > Quercetin for cancer. > > My theory -- Could it be that NO ONE on earth is getting their proper > nutrition because > they are all eating predominantly cooked food? Could it be that not > only are the enzymes > destroyed, but that all other important nutrients are also destroyed > producing a > preponderance of waste products which back up in the body and cause > further damage? > Could that be one reason there is an increase in obesity -- that > people are continually > hungry for proper nutrition and they eat so much because their bodies > are still craving > nutrients? Could it be that the human body is just so extremely > capable of adapting and > life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a depleted > nutritional state? > > Has anyone else thought about this? Has it been proposed by other > researchers? Is there a > book out there that covers this info? > > Melanie > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 That's what Paul Stitt brings out in his book. The results of the research he was doing for the large food companies he worked for wasn't well received (surprise!) because it showed what they could do to make their products more nutritious. All they wanted to know was what they could add to the foods that could make them more addictive. They would make a change that would increase the bottom line and call it " New and Improved! " Yeah, right--for them. He finally ended up having to go to work for himself. His position was " eliminated " . Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , vegwriter wrote: > > > Indeed, the lack of research is related to the lack of profit. No company > owns a patent for raw fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds. It's the way our > system is structured. > > Judy > > In a message dated 7/1/2006 6:22:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mmelliot writes: > > Melanie, > > I agree. Not only are most health problems related from poor nutrition, > but also toxins in the food themselves. Raw and organic is definitely > the way to go. > > Why aren't we seeing research being done in this area? There is no > money to be made from it. No pills to sell. Most research is funded by > corporate interests and aside from some organic farmers (and society in > general :-) who would benefit from sponsoring this research? Not the > pharmacuetical companies, not the processed food companies, not... > > -Mike > > --- melanieburtis <melanieburtis wrote: > > > rawfood , vegwriter@ wrote: > > > > > 1. Editorial: A recent New York Times article said that babies do > > best on > > > breast milk. We believe that's because mother's milk is a raw > > food, and is body > > > temperature, with its enzymes intact; breastfeeding babies are > > therefore not > > > drinking pasteurized (cooked) formula! The mainstream media and > > science > > > haven't realized this yet. > > > > > > > On the same note, I've also begun to wonder about vitamins & > > anti-oxidants being " alive " > > as important, and not just the enzymes. Think about this -- there has > > been much > > published in recent years regarding vitamins, herbs, and > > anti-oxidants being an integral > > aspect of health maintenance which has exploded the bottled nutrition > > industry. Some > > studies have proven the efficacy of taking herbs, vitamins, and > > anti-oxidants to help > > certain body functions and deficient conditions. > > > > I also read somewhere, although I can't remember where, that many > > vitamins and > > nutrients (not just enzymes) are destroyed from cooking. > > > > Now take into consideration how many people are " cured " from > > supposedly life-long > > chronic illnesses such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, > > etc., etc. The research > > with which I am familiar (I am a PhD), asserts that many of these > > illnesses can be cured > > through vitamin/anti-oxidant therapy such as high doses of vitamin C, > > Co-Q10, and > > Quercetin for cancer. > > > > My theory -- Could it be that NO ONE on earth is getting their proper > > nutrition because > > they are all eating predominantly cooked food? Could it be that not > > only are the enzymes > > destroyed, but that all other important nutrients are also destroyed > > producing a > > preponderance of waste products which back up in the body and cause > > further damage? > > Could that be one reason there is an increase in obesity -- that > > people are continually > > hungry for proper nutrition and they eat so much because their bodies > > are still craving > > nutrients? Could it be that the human body is just so extremely > > capable of adapting and > > life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a depleted > > nutritional state? > > > > Has anyone else thought about this? Has it been proposed by other > > researchers? Is there a > > book out there that covers this info? > > > > Melanie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 > rawfood , vegwriter@ wrote: > Could it be that the human body is just so extremely capable of adapting and > life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a depleted nutritional state? I don't know how capable of adapting we really are! Are we (the general population) functioning, really? Personally I feel like I was 1/2 dead physically and spiritually before raw foods! No energy, depression, stuck spiritually and mentally etc... What kind of society might we be if we were all raw foodists? Can you imagine what we could acomplish, the vibration, the energy??? Wow! I for one would love to have for starters a community of raw foodists where we could experience the beginning of this! Anyone else? Denise Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Let's all move to the tropics and live on mangos and Thai coconut! Anyone here old enough to remember the old hippie communes? Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , " denisedthomas " <denised> wrote: > > > rawfood , vegwriter@ wrote: > > > Could it be that the human body is just so extremely capable of adapting and > > life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a depleted nutritional state? > > I don't know how capable of adapting we really are! Are we (the general population) > functioning, really? Personally I feel like I was 1/2 dead physically and spiritually before > raw foods! No energy, depression, stuck spiritually and mentally etc... > What kind of society might we be if we were all raw foodists? > Can you imagine what we could acomplish, the vibration, the energy??? > Wow! > I for one would love to have for starters a community of raw foodists where we could > experience the beginning of this! > Anyone else? > Denise Thomas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 " Anyone here old enough to remember the old hippie communes? " Pshaw Tommie! Remember, I was there!!! Actually lived in San Francisco in the '70s. But I was a " responsible " hippie, I had a job and an apartment!!! Actually there was a commune in our area of Washington state up until last summer. The Love Isreal Family. The county finally made it unpleasant enough for them and taxed them out of the area. Pity. They had a marvelous organic garden I used to buy a share of every spring. They also had a grand garlic festival every August. Was really an excuse to have a public party! Was great fun. Ah, peace, love, and flower children. We are gray and wrinkled now, but can still roll a fat one (veggie burrito with kale, that is!). Peace syster - Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 In a message dated 7/2/2006 10:55:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jerushy writes: I was a flower child. My motorcycle helmet that my boyfriend bought me even had flowers on it. It was groovy! Peace yourself and make love, not war. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com Do you still have it? Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 I remember reading about them in my history books :-) -Mike --- Tommie <jerushy wrote: > Let's all move to the tropics and live on mangos and Thai coconut! > Anyone here old enough to remember the old hippie communes? > > Tommie > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com > > rawfood , " denisedthomas " <denised> > wrote: > > > > > rawfood , vegwriter@ wrote: > > > > > Could it be that the human body is just so extremely capable of > adapting and > > > life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a > depleted nutritional state? > > > > I don't know how capable of adapting we really are! Are we (the > general population) > > functioning, really? Personally I feel like I was 1/2 dead > physically and spiritually before > > raw foods! No energy, depression, stuck spiritually and mentally > etc... > > What kind of society might we be if we were all raw foodists? > > Can you imagine what we could acomplish, the vibration, the > energy??? > > Wow! > > I for one would love to have for starters a community of raw > foodists where we could > > experience the beginning of this! > > Anyone else? > > Denise Thomas > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 I was a flower child. My motorcycle helmet that my boyfriend bought me even had flowers on it. It was groovy! Peace yourself and make love, not war. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , " SV " <shavig wrote: > > " Anyone here old enough to remember the old hippie communes? " > > Pshaw Tommie! Remember, I was there!!! Actually lived in San Francisco in the '70s. But I was a " responsible " hippie, I had a job and an apartment!!! > > Actually there was a commune in our area of Washington state up until last summer. The Love Isreal Family. The county finally made it unpleasant enough for them and taxed them out of the area. Pity. They had a marvelous organic garden I used to buy a share of every spring. They also had a grand garlic festival every August. Was really an excuse to have a public party! Was great fun. > > Ah, peace, love, and flower children. We are gray and wrinkled now, but can still roll a fat one (veggie burrito with kale, that is!). > > Peace syster - Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , Mike Elliot <mmelliot wrote: > > I remember reading about them in my history books :-) > > -Mike > > --- Tommie <jerushy wrote: > > > Let's all move to the tropics and live on mangos and Thai coconut! > > Anyone here old enough to remember the old hippie communes? > > > > Tommie > > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com > > > > rawfood , " denisedthomas " <denisedthomas@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > rawfood , vegwriter@ wrote: > > > > > > > Could it be that the human body is just so extremely capable of > > adapting and > > > > life-ward that it will allow us to function even in such a > > depleted nutritional state? > > > > > > I don't know how capable of adapting we really are! Are we (the > > general population) > > > functioning, really? Personally I feel like I was 1/2 dead > > physically and spiritually before > > > raw foods! No energy, depression, stuck spiritually and mentally > > etc... > > > What kind of society might we be if we were all raw foodists? > > > Can you imagine what we could acomplish, the vibration, the > > energy??? > > > Wow! > > > I for one would love to have for starters a community of raw > > foodists where we could > > > experience the beginning of this! > > > Anyone else? > > > Denise Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Sadly, no. Over the years, it had to go during one of my many moves. My boyfriend became my husband, the motorcycle was sold, and it rode off into the sunset. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , vegwriter wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/2/2006 10:55:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jerushy writes: > > I was a flower child. My motorcycle helmet that my boyfriend bought > me even had flowers on it. It was groovy! > > Peace yourself and make love, not war. > > Tommie > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com > > > Do you still have it? > > Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Gee, that's too bad. It would be worth a lot now as a collector's item, and would make a beautiful objet d'art. Judy Sadly, no. Over the years, it had to go during one of my many moves. My boyfriend became my husband, the motorcycle was sold, and it rode off into the sunset. Tommie http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com rawfood , vegwriter wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/2/2006 10:55:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jerushy writes: > > I was a flower child. My motorcycle helmet that my boyfriend bought > me even had flowers on it. It was groovy! > > Peace yourself and make love, not war. > > Tommie > http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com > > > Do you still have it? > > Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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