Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 This struck me oddly. Is she a proponent of NOT using these in their raw form? --copied text--- Here's the response I got back from Nora Lenz, www.rawschool.com alcohol. The digestion of complex meals with multiple ingredients and harmful flavorings (garlic, onion, vinegar, cacao, etc.) requires a great deal of energy expenditure, much more than simple raw food. ----------- And this I find quite intriguing. Certainly sheds a different light on my admitted addiction to fresh coffee: ---begin copied text---- The loss occasions feelings of low energy or other symptoms which people have come to call " cravings " . Actually, it's just the body calling for rest so it can recover. When those feelings hit, the person wants the thing that gave him/her the previous high. So rather than giving the body the rest it needs, s/he gives it just the opposite -- more work. This is the cycle of addiction, and it can obviously apply to raw fooders as easily as cooked food eaters. -------- You know, I'd have to agree with this next statement. It is a fine line to walk when cooking is income. I'm often asked to cater meals that are so completely NOT raw and really the hardest part is the odors, so I completely open up my house and turn on all the fans to air out the smells. Which is leading to my next endeavor: building a small outside kitchen for the catering rather than using my own kitchen. At this point, cooking it does not make me want to eat it and I've never been one to taste-as-I-go. To me, SAD food is a job, like rewriting our website into cascading style sheet format....just a job. Kendra ---begin copied text---- It's hard to say whether raw gourmandizing typically leads people back to cooked food. I imagine it does sometimes, because eating complex raw foods keeps people from experiencing the benefits they were seeking or expecting, and in those cases the sacrifices required to stay raw won't seem worth it. I don't think it's impossible for a person to be into raw food prep and eat simply, it's just going to be more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Thank you for getting that reply from Nora, she is so knowlegable and well wrote. I am a raw food chef (I do home / office deliveries in the San Diego area) and I make the comlex, gourmet meals for my clients. Most of them are just wanting to go 70 or 80 percent raw. Very few are 100%. I have been 100% raw for 2.5 years now and I have been noticing my desire to eat more and more simply. Most especially after my 14 or 20 hour days in the kitchen getting everyone's meals ready! Most of the time, I just want to eat an apple! On the same note and in agreement with what Nora wrote, I have noticed that the more complex, gourmet meals I have the more fatigued I feel. Returning to a simple salad or fruit makes me feel better. I also notice with each passing year that plain veggies or fruit taste better and better just by themselves. Funny how that works, huh? lala When it is dark enough you can see the stars Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Well, if you can't make an entire meal of a food, it is not an optimal food. In other words, would you sit down to an entire meal of garlic? Basil? Jalapeno peppers? Understand? Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 Hi All, I have been making gourmet raw food for people professionally now for over 3 years and I do not crave cooked food or gourmet raw at all. I have been 100% raw for almost 7 years now and I love it. I agree with Paula. I love to eat very simply!!! I think that people are going to have to battle their addictions and realize that this is not a cure all or any guarantee that addictions will disappear. I was fortunate to have been a vegan since I was 5 years old and to also be a strong willed person. I deal with people and their addictions daily and it truly is a difficult battle for them. Bless their hearts. Raw food living is an individual thing, there isn't one answer for everyone. Blessings, Angela www.celestialrawgoddess.com thegoddess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 shari wrote: > Well, if you can't make an entire meal of a food, it is not an optimal food. > In other words, would you sit down to an entire meal of garlic? Basil? Jalapeno peppers? Wow! Shari, are you saying that I cannot use things like basil, garlic, and jalapeno in my food preparation? How come? they are raw. this is starting to sound like a fundamentalist religion: no make-up! Even Seventh Day Adventists use seasonings in their food. Are you intimating that we should eschew God's gifts of aromatic and fragrant herbs? Okay, then, why? What is wrong with basil? What is wrong with peppermint? What is wrong with oregano? What is wrong with jalapeno? Thank you for you assistance. Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 I have to agree with Margaret. I love herbs and spices, a little jalapeno, garlic, whatever. They are strong in flavor because they were meant to be eaten in small amounts at a time. They certainly have health benefits when taken in smaller amounts. There's no law that says you can't enjoy your food by spicing it up judiciously. Betsy Margaret Gamez <mgamez wrote: shari wrote: > Well, if you can't make an entire meal of a food, it is not an optimal food. > In other words, would you sit down to an entire meal of garlic? Basil? Jalapeno peppers? Wow! Shari, are you saying that I cannot use things like basil, garlic, and jalapeno in my food preparation? How come? they are raw. this is starting to sound like a fundamentalist religion: no make-up! Even Seventh Day Adventists use seasonings in their food. Are you intimating that we should eschew God's gifts of aromatic and fragrant herbs? Okay, then, why? What is wrong with basil? What is wrong with peppermint? What is wrong with oregano? What is wrong with jalapeno? Thank you for you assistance. Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 [Prior posts deleted for brevity] [brought from RawFood to RawSchool group] Hi everyone, Though most people have become habituated to stimulants such as those Shari mentions, she is, in fact correct in suggesting that they not be eaten, at least for optimal results from one's diet. Fortunately, each of us need not take anyone's word for this, and in fact it is quite easy to demonstrate this for yourself. Simply stop eating all these substances (garlic, onion, herbs, salt {and including baking soda}, etc.) for 90 days. Then, ONE BY ONE, leaving a day or 2 in between, reintroduce each substance directly into your system. By directly, I mean take a small amount and put it directly into your mouth, by itself. For optimal test results, make this the very first thing you ingest (even before toothpaste, if you are still using any). You will require no outside input from anyone, your body will communicate to you what you need to know. Meanwhile, DURING the 90 days of abstinence, notice how often you crave these substances. After awhile, you'll likely realize that what you experience is indeed craving, and not hunger at all. Best to all, Elchanan .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 You can use whatever it is you want in a recipe. I'm just passing on what Natural Hygiene says is not optimal food. They irritate or excite the body too much to be a great food. There's really nothing wrong with a jalapeno, but know that it is not an optimal food. Natural Hygiene is about eating one food for one meal and I don't care to have just basil for dinner as I could not eat that much. Nor would I think anyone could eat enough garlic to get full before they got sick. Come over to www.rawschool.com and get on the discussion list there. They can explain it much better than I. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 NOW I see your message, Elchanan. Thank you for clarifying this a bit more. :-) We are very lucky to you on this group. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Thanks! Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of SV Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:24 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] raw chefs staying raw .. NOW I see your message, Elchanan. Thank you for clarifying this a bit more. :-) We are very lucky to you on this group. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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