Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of melanieburtis Monday, August 07, 2006 7:39 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: 7 Best & 7 Worst Foods for Health & Longevity > Seven Best and Seven Worst Foods for Health and Longevity > Blueberries (as one of the best) QUESTION: I have heard that blueberries either are extremely acidic or leave an extremely acidic ash in the body after ingestion and assimilation which is very unhealthy for us so I have been avoiding them; what and where is the " truth " ? Melanie _____ Hi Melanie and all, Great question, points to a major source of confusion. If you remove the word " extremely " from the above, then you are closer to the truth. Acidity of a food BEFORE digestion strongly influences what is required to digest that food. For example, proteins (e.g., animal foods, broccoli) are acidic in nature (made of amino ACIDS), and they therefore require a particular environment and materials to be broken down, or digested. We call this environment " stomach " and the materials " stomach secretions " . Then at the END of the digestive process, there is an " ash " , a residue. This is actually a chemistry term, and from a chemistry perspective, this ash is of the same nature as the ashes left over from a burning fire. That is, they both result from breakdown of material using oxidation. The one (digestion) uses low-temperature chemistry, the other, heat (fire). (As an aside, the calorie model of thermomechanical energy requires this connection.) Whenever there is a chemical " burning " process, the resulting ash has a particular mineral content; this content determines its overall place on the pH scale, i.e., whether it is " alkaline " or " acid " ash. From a physiological perspective, the body can capture and use the ash (the physical material), and the pH of the ash determines whether or not it is " alkalizing " to the body. In other words, the pH indicates whether there a preponderance of alkalizing or acidifying minerals in the ash. Each food, at the end of its respective digestive process, leaves a particular ash, that is, a particular residue, and this residue is characterized by a specific pH. Most RF teachers have been taught, and therefore repeat, that raw foods are alkalizing to the body, cooked foods acidifying. In other words, and probably without even being aware of it, they endorse the proposition that heating changes the mineral content of the food. And there is some truth to this idea. But not all cooked foods are acidifying, and not all RFs are alkalizing, to humans. Among the raw foods, additional factors influence the composition of the digestive ash. Among these factors: - Maturity (ripeness for fruits) of the food. In the case of fruits, the last portion of the ripening process, IF ON THE PLANT, involves a large buildup of sugars, vitamins, minerals, etc. An unripe fruit, regardless of what fruit, is likely to be either less alkalizing, or actually acidifying, to the body. This applies in varying degrees to ALL fruits. - Digestive health = efficiency. As one might expect, the digestive process itself plays a significant role in determining the content, and therefore the pH, of the digestive ash. In a very " clean " , healthy person, the chemical burning process is efficient and generally complete, leaving a small quantity of the " right " ash for a particular food. But in a less " clean " person, the process is less efficient, often considerably so, and the resulting ash is likely to be filled with crap (used here as a technical term , and probably with a different and usually lower (more acid) pH than would be the case with the same food in a healthy person. - The food itself. First, let's keep in mind that 7 is neutral on the pH scale, and that almost all RFs leave a digestive ash in the 6s or 7s. This is why pH adjusts fairly slowly over time: pH change is a " fine " process, not a gross process involving large, rapid swings. The differential simply is not present to cause wide, rapid variances. In general, fruits and veggies are regarded as alkalizing, nuts and seeds close to neutral and mildly acidifying. But a few fruits, even ripe, sit right close to that midpoint of 7 on the pH scale. And blueberries are among these. And if the berries are even slightly underripe, they are indeed acidifying to the body. Probably more than you wanted to know ... Best to all, Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Thanks, Elchanan! You explain ph & ashes so well. I actually want to know more, please! Would you say one should avoid blueberries, or are they ok in moderation because of their otherwise high nutritional value??? (Maybe they should be eaten alone, like melons, or with citrus?) Thanks again, Tiffany Lohr " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote: [rawfood ] On Behalf Of melanieburtis Monday, August 07, 2006 7:39 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: 7 Best & 7 Worst Foods for Health & Longevity > Seven Best and Seven Worst Foods for Health and Longevity > Blueberries (as one of the best) QUESTION: I have heard that blueberries either are extremely acidic or leave an extremely acidic ash in the body after ingestion and assimilation which is very unhealthy for us so I have been avoiding them; what and where is the " truth " ? Melanie _____ Hi Melanie and all, Great question, points to a major source of confusion. If you remove the word " extremely " from the above, then you are closer to the truth. Acidity of a food BEFORE digestion strongly influences what is required to digest that food. For example, proteins (e.g., animal foods, broccoli) are acidic in nature (made of amino ACIDS), and they therefore require a particular environment and materials to be broken down, or digested. We call this environment " stomach " and the materials " stomach secretions " . Then at the END of the digestive process, there is an " ash " , a residue. This is actually a chemistry term, and from a chemistry perspective, this ash is of the same nature as the ashes left over from a burning fire. That is, they both result from breakdown of material using oxidation. The one (digestion) uses low-temperature chemistry, the other, heat (fire). (As an aside, the calorie model of thermomechanical energy requires this connection.) Whenever there is a chemical " burning " process, the resulting ash has a particular mineral content; this content determines its overall place on the pH scale, i.e., whether it is " alkaline " or " acid " ash. From a physiological perspective, the body can capture and use the ash (the physical material), and the pH of the ash determines whether or not it is " alkalizing " to the body. In other words, the pH indicates whether there a preponderance of alkalizing or acidifying minerals in the ash. Each food, at the end of its respective digestive process, leaves a particular ash, that is, a particular residue, and this residue is characterized by a specific pH. Most RF teachers have been taught, and therefore repeat, that raw foods are alkalizing to the body, cooked foods acidifying. In other words, and probably without even being aware of it, they endorse the proposition that heating changes the mineral content of the food. And there is some truth to this idea. But not all cooked foods are acidifying, and not all RFs are alkalizing, to humans. Among the raw foods, additional factors influence the composition of the digestive ash. Among these factors: - Maturity (ripeness for fruits) of the food. In the case of fruits, the last portion of the ripening process, IF ON THE PLANT, involves a large buildup of sugars, vitamins, minerals, etc. An unripe fruit, regardless of what fruit, is likely to be either less alkalizing, or actually acidifying, to the body. This applies in varying degrees to ALL fruits. - Digestive health = efficiency. As one might expect, the digestive process itself plays a significant role in determining the content, and therefore the pH, of the digestive ash. In a very " clean " , healthy person, the chemical burning process is efficient and generally complete, leaving a small quantity of the " right " ash for a particular food. But in a less " clean " person, the process is less efficient, often considerably so, and the resulting ash is likely to be filled with crap (used here as a technical term , and probably with a different and usually lower (more acid) pH than would be the case with the same food in a healthy person. - The food itself. First, let's keep in mind that 7 is neutral on the pH scale, and that almost all RFs leave a digestive ash in the 6s or 7s. This is why pH adjusts fairly slowly over time: pH change is a " fine " process, not a gross process involving large, rapid swings. The differential simply is not present to cause wide, rapid variances. In general, fruits and veggies are regarded as alkalizing, nuts and seeds close to neutral and mildly acidifying. But a few fruits, even ripe, sit right close to that midpoint of 7 on the pH scale. And blueberries are among these. And if the berries are even slightly underripe, they are indeed acidifying to the body. Probably more than you wanted to know ... Best to all, Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Tiffany Tuesday, August 08, 2006 2:17 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] pH of RFs; Blueberries (WAS: 7 Best & 7 Worst Foods for Health & Longevity) Thanks, Elchanan! You explain ph & ashes so well. I actually want to know more, please! Would you say one should avoid blueberries, or are they ok in moderation because of their otherwise high nutritional value??? (Maybe they should be eaten alone, like melons, or with citrus?) Thanks again, Tiffany Lohr ________________ Hi Tiffany, No reason at all to avoid blueberries. The way I approach this with people, in general, is to suggest that you form your diet using sweet fruits as the base. These are bananas, dates, figs, apricots, persimmons, melons (except cantaloupe, unless it is REALLY ripe). Then add tender greens and whatever additional fruits you wish. Examples of additional fruits ... Subacid -- pits and cores -- apples, pears, mangos, also grapes Acid -- citrus, tomatoes, berries (including blue), kiwi Veggie fruits -- cucumber, zucchini, squash, etc. As usual, wild, then organic (or better, if you have good relationships with some farmers), are better than commercial. And ripe -- unripe fruit causes people lots of problems, acid-forming, and upsets the stomach. And the usual guidelines for food combining work well .. mix acid fruits with other acid fruits, subacid fruits, greens. Hope this helps! Elchanan PS pH, lowercase " p " , uppercase " H " . Means " potential for hydrogen " . E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 rawfood , Tiffany <bluelairess wrote: > > Thanks, Elchanan! You explain ph & ashes so well. I actually want to know more, please! I second that sentiment -- a big thank you, Elchanan. Melanie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2006 Report Share Posted August 9, 2006 rawfood [ <rawfood > rawfood ] On Behalf Of melanieburtis Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:28 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: pH of RFs; Blueberries (WAS: 7 Best & 7 Worst Foods for Health & Longevity) rawfood , Tiffany <bluelairess wrote: > > Thanks, Elchanan! You explain ph & ashes so well. I actually want to know more, please! I second that sentiment -- a big thank you, Elchanan. Melanie _____ Wow, thanks to you both! I'll write more on Thursday or Friday, after the teleconference tomorrow evening. I have to at least pretend to focus on preparing :) (Just kidding, we're going to share some nice ideas.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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