Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Elchanan, I agree. But I do think a lot of the source of confusion and argument here is centered around these issues: Some people believe this is a " Natural Hygiene " group. Some people believe this is a " vegan raw " group. Some people believe this is simply a " raw " group. This last (just a " raw " group) is what I want, personally -- DAIRY, for instance, can be raw... in fact, the Natural Hygiene movement accepts that raw milk/cheese is a pretty good thing and everyone should check out the work of the WESTON A PRICE FOUNDATION (google that) about the differences between raw dairy and pateurized dairy. It's astounding, with solid research behind it. Heck, there ARE people who eat raw meat and believe it is good for them. I am not in this category, but my cousin is in absolutely glowingly fabulous health, on a diet of raw eggs, raw meat, raw dairy, raw vegetables/fruits. But some people on this group think this is not a place to discuss all raw diets. And, IMHO, I think there are a good number of people here who are probably over the edge into the category of " orthorexic " who start ruling out all kinds of foods randomly... A couple weeks ago I read this whole list of fruits and vegetables which are unacceptable raw OR cooked because they are " hybridized " which is just ridiculous! There's a list much longer than the one provided-- most anything you buy in your local produce section is hybridized. But if you know how to shop (ie, LOCALLY, farmer's markets) you can get non-hybridized anything, if you have a problem with hybridization for whatever reason (there is nothing nutritionally different about a hybridized fruit or veggie if it's grown organically in good soil ... I happen to prefer non-hybrid crops for ecological reasons, but that's another matter entirely). I just think there is a lot of misinformation and bad science on this group, which is a shame, because the basic tenet of raw food is incredibly healthful. But people have these one-man agendas against certain specific foods (whether it's dates or corn or raw garlic) and so no matter what you might want to eat, someone on here pipes up about how it's going to give you cancer or destroy your myelin sheath if you eat it. (And I'm not talking about those who say that a certain food doesn't make them feel good -- that is something else entirely.) I think it's not healthy to rule out so very many good foods. I believe in a diet with some real variety in it.. It's unfortunate that the raw foods movement has so much orthorexia going around ... but any severe/extreme diet I suppose is bound to attract people who harbor that tendency inherently. The raw diet is pretty severe/extreme in our society (even if it is healthy), so... there you have it. But I do think some clarification about whether it's a RAW group, a Natural Hygiene group, or a vegan raw group, might help? Kristen -- In rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > We've certainly stirred up a some feelings here today! I have a sense that some of what is going > on simply arises from styles of communication. One person's " straightforward talk " is another > person's insult, or flippancy, or whatever. > > So my request is simple: would everyone be willing simply to agree that we are all here, each > doing his/her best? If we all come from a presumption that everyone INTENDS to be constructive > with every post, then perhaps it becomes easier for us to make room for stylistic differences. > > And perhaps, then, we could put this topic to rest, as it were. ??? > > Thanks to all, > Elchanan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2006 Report Share Posted August 20, 2006 Thanks Elchanan, Well said! Tammy On Aug 19, 2006, at 10:49 PM, INFO @ Vibrant Life wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We've certainly stirred up a some feelings here today! I have a sense > that some of what is going > on simply arises from styles of communication. One person's > " straightforward talk " is another > person's insult, or flippancy, or whatever. > > So my request is simple: would everyone be willing simply to agree > that we are all here, each > doing his/her best? If we all come from a presumption that everyone > INTENDS to be constructive > with every post, then perhaps it becomes easier for us to make room > for stylistic differences. > > And perhaps, then, we could put this topic to rest, as it were. ??? > > Thanks to all, > Elchanan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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