Guest guest Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 I have a question about the posting of the recipes from someone else's book. If the source is cited is that okay then? I see recipes that are posted on other cooking sites that are from books but they cite the source. In college we took things out of books for papers that we were writing, but we had to cite the source so that it wasn't plagiarism. It appears that the person who was posting the recipes cited the source and gave credit to them and didn't claim it for herself. Can anyone clarify this? linda linda's organic gardens: womyn47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hmmm, then there are a lot of law breakers out there since I see recipes posted to cooking groups all of the time with citation. And while maybe this applies to things like what was posted on the list, it doesn't apply to everyone and everything (except maybe here) since that is how things are done as long as the reference is cited. You have written high school papers or college papers? It isn't illegal. Make sure you have cited your references accurately and that is all there is to it. Why is this different? Is it because you have patented it or something like that? But it is not true that you must get the author/editor/publisher's permission to quote from a book unless it is forbidden for that particular book and so stated. Otherwise citation is permitted as long as it is done properly. As long as you are not claiming it as your own and if you do that is called plagiarism. Check it out. Just google plagiarism. So, my question was why was it different for this if it was cited and it was. It must have been explicitly stated that one couldn't pass it on even with citation unless they had permission from the author. I haven't seen the book and it was an honest question. linda - <vegwriter > A person needs to get permission from the author/editor/publisher before > posting anything that's in a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Exactly. Part of my responsibilities in a past job required me to enforce copyright laws. You MUST have permission and THEN you also must cite the source. With the Internet, it makes it too easy for people to grab the work of others illegally (recipes, writings, photos, drawings, etc.), some try to justify what they are doing and many people have no clue what they are doing is illegal, but it is. Just something to think about guys. On 11/19/06, vegwriter <vegwriter wrote: > > > A person needs to get permission from the author/editor/publisher before > posting anything that's in a book. > > In a message dated 11/19/2006 9:32:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lindai81 writes: > > I have a question about the posting of the recipes from someone else's > book. > If the source is cited is that okay then? > -- Gwendolyn Morgan Please Help: http://www.active.com/donate/tntwi/gkm -- Everything will be okay in the end If it's not okay, it' s not the end. --- Unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Another question--what if the recipe has been posted on the WWW by the creator? Can it be posted elsewhere or just linked to? And if the ingredients are changed, is it still the property of the original creator? Tommie http://reallyrawfood.com rawfood , " Gwendolyn Morgan " <gmorgan17 wrote: > > Exactly. Part of my responsibilities in a past job required me to enforce > copyright laws. > > You MUST have permission and THEN you also must cite the source. > > With the Internet, it makes it too easy for people to grab the work of > others illegally (recipes, writings, photos, drawings, etc.), some try to > justify what they are doing and many people have no clue what they are doing > is illegal, but it is. Just something to think about guys. > > > > > On 11/19/06, vegwriter <vegwriter wrote: > > > > > > A person needs to get permission from the author/editor/publisher before > > posting anything that's in a book. > > > > In a message dated 11/19/2006 9:32:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > lindai81 writes: > > > > I have a question about the posting of the recipes from someone else's > > book. > > If the source is cited is that okay then? > > > > > > -- > Gwendolyn Morgan > Please Help: http://www.active.com/donate/tntwi/gkm > -- ------------ > Everything will be okay in the end If it's not okay, it' s not the end. --- > Unknown > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Well, this is pretty scary since a couple of you do not understand the whole topic. I guess you could make a lot of money then suing people for infringements. You have over generalized and need to look up what parameters the copyright laws operate under and how plagiarism would apply. You are both wrong as this does not apply to every single instance. It depends on what you are using it for. Otherwise you are a litigious bunch. Kind of frightening actually...so no one had best post a recipe on this site or someone will scream foul since you will always find someone that has done it before or so close that they could cry foul. I won't ever post a recipe on here for sure. Now you go to any other food site and there are law breakers abounding according to you. And go to any college or high school and you will have to throw every single student out. Crazy thinking and lack of real understanding here about copyright and plagiarism laws. I take it someone got 48 Hours permission to post the article about their show in the files? The Heavy Burden: It is raw????? You don't think they don't copyright their shows? How about the article " Antibiotics Kill Your Body's Good Bacteria, Too, Leading to Serious Health Risks " ?????? Anyone get permission from www.mercola.com? How about the articles on Parasites and Candidiasis? Now surely where ever that information came from wasn't developed by that person alone but was a collection of ideas that they found worked for them and they passed it on. Well, you get the idea. linda - " Gwendolyn Morgan " <gmorgan17 > Exactly. Part of my responsibilities in a past job required me to enforce > copyright laws. > > You MUST have permission and THEN you also must cite the source. > > With the Internet, it makes it too easy for people to grab the work of > others illegally (recipes, writings, photos, drawings, etc.), some try to > justify what they are doing and many people have no clue what they are doing > is illegal, but it is. Just something to think about guys. > On 11/19/06, vegwriter <vegwriter wrote: > > > > > > A person needs to get permission from the author/editor/publisher before > > posting anything that's in a book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 You can only link to it if the created posted it on the WWW, UNLESS you get premission from the owner to post it elsewhere. If the ingredients are changed, then it's a different recipe. On 11/20/06, Tommie <jerushy wrote: > > Another question--what if the recipe has been posted on the WWW by > the creator? Can it be posted elsewhere or just linked to? And if the > ingredients are changed, is it still the property of the original > creator? > > Tommie > http://reallyrawfood.com > > > -- Gwendolyn Morgan Please Help: http://www.active.com/donate/tntwi/gkm -- Everything will be okay in the end If it's not okay, it' s not the end. --- Unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hi Linda, > I have a question about the posting of the recipes from someone else's book. > If the source is cited is that okay then? Mere listings of ingredients as in recipes, formulas, compounds or prescriptions are not subject to copyright protection. However, where a recipe or formula is accompanied by substantial literary expression in the form of an explanation or directions, or when there is a combination of recipes, as in a cookbook, there may be a basis for copyright protection. Source (U.S. Copyright Office): http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 We have a recipe that came from Belize called Hot cabbage and I don't know if it would be in any cookbook or not but I changed it to be raw. and my family like it still so there are recipes that we all have and you just change them a little. Theresa \o/ Quoting linda <lindai81: > Hmmm, then there are a lot of law breakers out there since I see recipes > posted to cooking groups all of the time with citation. And while maybe this > applies to things like what was posted on the list, it doesn't apply to > everyone and everything (except maybe here) since that is how things are > done as long as the reference is cited. You have written high school papers > or college papers? It isn't illegal. Make sure you have cited your > references accurately and that is all there is to it. Why is this different? > Is it because you have patented it or something like that? But it is not > true that you must get the author/editor/publisher's permission to quote > from a book unless it is forbidden for that particular book and so stated. > Otherwise citation is permitted as long as it is done properly. As long as > you are not claiming it as your own and if you do that is called plagiarism. > Check it out. Just google plagiarism. So, my question was why was it > different for this if it was cited and it was. It must have been explicitly > stated that one couldn't pass it on even with citation unless they had > permission from the author. I haven't seen the book and it was an honest > question. > linda > > - > <vegwriter >> A person needs to get permission from the author/editor/publisher before >> posting anything that's in a book. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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