Guest guest Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 This info came from Dr. Doug Graham, I emailed back and forth a little with him on the subject. He wouldn't give me too much info as he said it's coming out in a book, or something (from checking out his site just now it looks like it's on a CD). Below find an article from his website: www.doctorgraham.cc/ titled " I have candida or a yeast infection. How can I eat so much fruit? " Personally, I have done a no fat diet for 10 days, I have done a juice fast twice (mostly green juice with a little apple) - the first time for 14 days, the second time for 17 days. I still have candida. I also followed Dr. Cousen's (http://treeoflife.nu/gabriel.html) diet from Rainbow Green Live Food Cusine for three months - no fruit, not even carrots for the first 6 months. I stopped cause I couldn't take it anymore! It was summer in Seattle and so many luscious and glorious fruits were available, one day I just pigged out on something juicy and sweet ... and that was the end of that. Oh, plus I was experiencing a healing crisis in my right kidney. I am not as familiar with Dr. Graham's credentials, on his site he states he has been a chiropractor and raw foodist for 20 some years. Personally, I am more impressed with Dr. Cousens' creditials - has anyone read " Conscious Eating " or " Rainbow Green ... " ?. Below the Dr. Graham article you will find a link to an article from Dr. Cousens, along with the specific paragraph of the article that I thought fit in to this conversation. The article is long and convoluted with a lot of high level nutrition information - the paragraph is the sixth one from the bottom if you want to go directly to it. I suggest reading the whole thing, though. Jeeze - it would be so nice if the product mentioned by Sharon (Spirokete) works safely! ********************************************************************************\ **************** From Dr. Graham: I have candida or a yeast infection. How can I eat so much fruit? Written by Administrator Excess fat is the culprit in candida, not sugar, per se. When fat levels in the blood rise, so does blood sugar, because excess fat inhibits insulin from performing its function of escorting sugar out of the bloodstream. The excess fat lines the blood vessel walls, the cells, insulin receptor sites, the sugar molecules themselves, and the insulin with a thin coating of fat, thus blocking and inhibiting normal metabolic activity. Too much sugar in the blood is as life threatening as too little and can result in serious illness or death. Yeast, or candida, is a constant presence in the blood; it serves as a life preservation mechanism, blooming when there is an excess of sugar in the blood stream to bring blood sugar down to a non-threatening level. When the sugar is distributed and used by the cells of the body, the yeast quickly dies off as it is supposed to. If fat levels stay chronically high due to a poor diet, sugar will remain in the bloodstream and feed the large candida colonies instead of feeding the 18 trillion cells of your body. Starved for fuel, these cells can no longer metabolize energy, and you become tired, and feel rundown. Because all carbohydrate, fat, and protein that we eat is converted to simple sugar (glucose) if it is to be used by the cells for fuel, the way out of this cycle is not to eat less sugar, but to consume less fat. When fat levels drop, the sugar starts to get processed and distributed again, and the yeast levels drop because there is no longer excess sugar available. This question is addressed in detail on this CD Dr. Cousens: http://www.alivewithgabriel.com/site.php/arti/read/the_right_fat_diet/ The idea of eating fat to slow the uptake of fruit sugar is, I believe, a valid approach because the glycemic index has to do with how fast sugar gets into the system. Nevertheless, it doesn’t deal with the fact that a high-sugar diet is still not good for you. A high-sugar diet stimulates inflammation, which causes the leptin resistance and insulin resistance, potentially bringing us into Syndrome X, or “metabolic syndrome.” 40 million people in the U.S. have this syndrome, which is high blood pressure, hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and inability to lose weight. We have to be careful how far we go, and sugar definitely still is a danger, but whether it comes slow or fast makes a difference if you have hypoglycemia, and you won’t get quite so many wide swings in your blood sugar. You still get the sugar though, which stimulates candida and fungus growth, and is connected to cancer as well, because cancer cells need 10 to 50 times more sugar intake for them to function at their most pathogenic, treacherous level. enchanteddreams <enchanteddreams rawfood Tuesday, November 21, 2006 9:10:53 AM Re: [Raw Food] any easy candida cures? I believe it was Victoria Boutenko (Raw Family) who said 5-10 days of no fat would cure candida. They found it was the fats, not the sugars, that was messing up the body. Cheryl > Can I do anything within the raw diet itself? > ______________________________\ ____ Sponsored Link Rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Loan for $1698/mo. Calcuate new payment. www.LowerMyBills.com/lre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 I, personally, look at the results more than the credentials. I have had outstanding results, health-wise and weight-wise, with a plan more similar to Dr. Graham's. However, I am not and never have been a candida sufferer. Dr. Graham also doesn't like to hand out generic information wholesale because every person is different and needs more specific advice that can only come with a consultation. Dr. Cousen's approach makes no sense to me. Sorry. I don't think God would have made fruit so yummy if He had expected us to eat it sparingly. Tommie http://reallyrawfood.com rawfood , Paula Wood <wolfmother1 wrote: > > This info came from Dr. Doug Graham, I emailed back and forth a little with him on the subject. He wouldn't give me too much info as he said it's coming out in a book, or something (from checking out his site just now it looks like it's on a CD). Below find an article from his website: www.doctorgraham.cc/ titled " I have candida or a yeast infection. How can I eat so much fruit? " > > Personally, I have done a no fat diet for 10 days, I have done a juice fast twice (mostly green juice with a little apple) - the first time for 14 days, the second time for 17 days. I still have candida. > > I also followed Dr. Cousen's (http://treeoflife.nu/gabriel.html) diet from Rainbow Green Live Food Cusine for three months - no fruit, not even carrots for the first 6 months. I stopped cause I couldn't take it anymore! It was summer in Seattle and so many luscious and glorious fruits were available, one day I just pigged out on something juicy and sweet ... and that was the end of that. Oh, plus I was experiencing a healing crisis in my right kidney. > > I am not as familiar with Dr. Graham's credentials, on his site he states he has been a chiropractor and raw foodist for 20 some years. Personally, I am more impressed with Dr. Cousens' creditials - has anyone read " Conscious Eating " or " Rainbow Green ... " ?. Below the Dr. Graham article you will find a link to an article from Dr. Cousens, along with the specific paragraph of the article that I thought fit in to this conversation. The article is long and convoluted with a lot of high level nutrition information - the paragraph is the sixth one from the bottom if you want to go directly to it. I suggest reading the whole thing, though. > > Jeeze - it would be so nice if the product mentioned by Sharon (Spirokete) works safely! > > ********************************************************************** ************************** > From Dr. Graham: > I have candida or a yeast infection. How can I eat so much fruit? > Written by Administrator > Excess fat is the culprit in candida, not sugar, per se. When fat levels in the blood rise, so does blood sugar, because excess fat inhibits insulin from performing its function of escorting sugar out of the bloodstream. The excess fat lines the blood vessel walls, the cells, insulin receptor sites, the sugar molecules themselves, and the insulin with a thin coating of fat, thus blocking and inhibiting normal metabolic activity. > Too much sugar in the blood is as life threatening as too little and can result in serious illness or death. Yeast, or candida, is a constant presence in the blood; it serves as a life preservation mechanism, blooming when there is an excess of sugar in the blood stream to bring blood sugar down to a non-threatening level. When the sugar is distributed and used by the cells of the body, the yeast quickly dies off as it is supposed to. > If fat levels stay chronically high due to a poor diet, sugar will remain in the bloodstream and feed the large candida colonies instead of feeding the 18 trillion cells of your body. Starved for fuel, these cells can no longer metabolize energy, and you become tired, and feel rundown. Because all carbohydrate, fat, and protein that we eat is converted to simple sugar (glucose) if it is to be used by the cells for fuel, the way out of this cycle is not to eat less sugar, but to consume less fat. When fat levels drop, the sugar starts to get processed and distributed again, and the yeast levels drop because there is no longer excess sugar available. > This question is addressed in detail on this CD > > > Dr. Cousens: http://www.alivewithgabriel.com/site.php/arti/read/the_right_fat_diet/ > The idea of eating fat to slow the uptake of fruit sugar is, I believe, a valid approach because the glycemic index has to do with how fast sugar gets into the system. Nevertheless, it doesn't deal with the fact that a high-sugar diet is still not good for you. A high-sugar diet stimulates inflammation, which causes the leptin resistance and insulin resistance, potentially bringing us into Syndrome X, or " metabolic syndrome. " 40 million people in the U.S. have this syndrome, which is high blood pressure, hypertension, diabetes, obesity, and inability to lose weight. We have to be careful how far we go, and sugar definitely still is a danger, but whether it comes slow or fast makes a difference if you have hypoglycemia, and you won't get quite so many wide swings in your blood sugar. You still get the sugar though, which stimulates candida and fungus growth, and is connected to cancer as well, because cancer cells need 10 to 50 times more sugar intake for them to > function at their most pathogenic, treacherous level. > > > > > enchanteddreams <enchanteddreams > rawfood > Tuesday, November 21, 2006 9:10:53 AM > Re: [Raw Food] any easy candida cures? > > I believe it was Victoria Boutenko (Raw Family) who said 5-10 days of no fat > would cure candida. They found it was the fats, not the sugars, that was > messing up the body. > Cheryl > > > Can I do anything within the raw diet itself? > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > Sponsored Link > > Rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Loan for $1698/mo. > Calcuate new payment. www.LowerMyBills.com/lre > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Hi Paula, Here is a link to an article by Frederic Patenaude about the high- fruit vs. high-fat raw diets: http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/articles/2sides.html Here's a link to a short blurb by Patenaude on candida: http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/articles/candida.html I'm not sure of the specifics of what you've tried and I don't know enough to give any advice there. If you need more help, you might consider a raw food coach for more info and/or tailoring your diet. Nora Lenz at www.rawschool.com is very knowledgeable, accessible, and has reasonable rates. Elchanan of the Path of Health group (http://health.PathOfHealth/) has written and spoken about this and also might be able to help if you post on that group. Best wishes, Laurie rawfood , Paula Wood <wolfmother1 wrote: > > This info came from Dr. Doug Graham, I emailed back and forth a little with him on the subject. He wouldn't give me too much info as he said it's coming out in a book, or something (from checking out his site just now it looks like it's on a CD). Below find an article from his website: www.doctorgraham.cc/ titled " I have candida or a yeast infection. How can I eat so much fruit? " > > Personally, I have done a no fat diet for 10 days, I have done a juice fast twice (mostly green juice with a little apple) - the first time for 14 days, the second time for 17 days. I still have candida. > > I also followed Dr. Cousen's (http://treeoflife.nu/gabriel.html) diet from Rainbow Green Live Food Cusine for three months - no fruit, not even carrots for the first 6 months. I stopped cause I couldn't take it anymore! It was summer in Seattle and so many luscious and glorious fruits were available, one day I just pigged out on something juicy and sweet ... and that was the end of that. Oh, plus I was experiencing a healing crisis in my right kidney. > > I am not as familiar with Dr. Graham's credentials, on his site he states he has been a chiropractor and raw foodist for 20 some years. Personally, I am more impressed with Dr. Cousens' creditials - has anyone read " Conscious Eating " or " Rainbow Green ... " ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 Great Articles Thank you for sharing my Good friend Dr. Neesh (has his own line of awesome pure supplements as well and owns 3 practices) is a PhD in Nutrition and Natualpathic medicine agrees with all of this ! --- Laurie <laurie wrote: > Hi Paula, > > Here is a link to an article by Frederic Patenaude > about the high- > fruit vs. high-fat raw diets: > > http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/articles/2sides.html > > Here's a link to a short blurb by Patenaude on > candida: > > http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/articles/candida.html > > I'm not sure of the specifics of what you've tried > and I don't know > enough to give any advice there. If you need more > help, you might > consider a raw food coach for more info and/or > tailoring your diet. > Nora Lenz at www.rawschool.com is very > knowledgeable, accessible, > and has reasonable rates. Elchanan of the Path of > Health > group > (http://health.PathOfHealth/) > has > written and spoken about this and also might be able > to help if you > post on that group. > > Best wishes, > > Laurie > > > rawfood , Paula Wood > <wolfmother1 wrote: > > > > This info came from Dr. Doug Graham, I emailed > back and forth a > little with him on the subject. He wouldn't give me > too much info > as he said it's coming out in a book, or something > (from checking > out his site just now it looks like it's on a CD). > Below find an > article from his website: www.doctorgraham.cc/ > titled " I have > candida or a yeast infection. How can I eat so much > fruit? " > > > > Personally, I have done a no fat diet for 10 days, > I have done a > juice fast twice (mostly green juice with a little > apple) - the > first time for 14 days, the second time for 17 days. > I still have > candida. > > > > I also followed Dr. Cousen's > (http://treeoflife.nu/gabriel.html) > diet from Rainbow Green Live Food Cusine for three > months - no > fruit, not even carrots for the first 6 months. I > stopped cause I > couldn't take it anymore! It was summer in Seattle > and so many > luscious and glorious fruits were available, one day > I just pigged > out on something juicy and sweet ... and that was > the end of that. > Oh, plus I was experiencing a healing crisis in my > right kidney. > > > > I am not as familiar with Dr. Graham's > credentials, on his site he > states he has been a chiropractor and raw foodist > for 20 some > years. Personally, I am more impressed with Dr. > Cousens' > creditials - has anyone read " Conscious Eating " or > " Rainbow > Green ... " ?. > > > ______________________________\ ____ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. http://smallbusiness./r-index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 It's funny, I guess it just comes back again and again to every 'body' being different and intuitive eating. When I first went raw I had a very high fruit diet and my body couldn't take it. I now eat mostly greens and fat (avocado and coconut), with a little fruit as snacks throughout the day and I feel WAY better. Paula Tommie <jerushy rawfood Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:51:19 AM Re: [Raw Food] any easy candida cures? (Graham vs. Cousens) I, personally, look at the results more than the credentials. I have had outstanding results, health-wise and weight-wise, with a plan more similar to Dr. Graham's. However, I am not and never have been a candida sufferer. Dr. Graham also doesn't like to hand out generic information wholesale because every person is different and needs more specific advice that can only come with a consultation. Dr. Cousen's approach makes no sense to me. Sorry. I don't think God would have made fruit so yummy if He had expected us to eat it sparingly. Tommie http://reallyrawfoo d.com ______________________________\ ____ Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. http://new.mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 I'm glad you found what works for you. I wouldn't be able to maintain that for long. Tommie http://reallyrawfood.com rawfood , Paula Wood <wolfmother1 wrote: > > It's funny, I guess it just comes back again and again to every 'body' being different and intuitive eating. When I first went raw I had a very high fruit diet and my body couldn't take it. I now eat mostly greens and fat (avocado and coconut), with a little fruit as snacks throughout the day and I feel WAY better. > > > Paula > > > > Tommie <jerushy > rawfood > Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:51:19 AM > Re: [Raw Food] any easy candida cures? (Graham vs. Cousens) > > > I, personally, look at the results more than the credentials. I have > had outstanding results, health-wise and weight-wise, with a plan > more similar to Dr. Graham's. However, I am not and never have been a > candida sufferer. Dr. Graham also doesn't like to hand out generic > information wholesale because every person is different and needs > more specific advice that can only come with a consultation. Dr. > Cousen's approach makes no sense to me. Sorry. I don't think God > would have made fruit so yummy if He had expected us to eat it > sparingly. > > Tommie > http://reallyrawfoo d.com > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta. > http://new.mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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