Personal experience viz.: Living Foods Tradmarked by Ann Wigmore Institute?

[Guest guest]

Hi Brenda, Anne, and everyone,

 

From one post by Brenda, the person being sued and whose email address I

provide in this message:

 

My attorneys are working on this case now and have told me that since there

are so many other people using these terms and words and teaching about

living foods that we are in need of emails or letters to support that these

words have become commonplace among us. I would appreciate it so much if you

would send me a letter in support of the fact that hundreds of teachers,

writers, and leaders in this raw and living foods movement use these terms,

including yourself, if you do, and that you do not agree that the Ann

Wigmore people or any one person or group should own the rights to these

words or any similar words or phrases exclusively.

 

If lots of people would simply respond to this request, this lawsuit will

likely crumble and we can all go back to doing ... whatever we were doing.

Otherwise, you'd be amazed at some of the lawsuits over trademarks that have

been won, simply for lack of a vigorous defense.

 

Speaking for myself only, I have heard countless people -- hundreds at the

very least -- use the phrase " living food " , and the plural, " living foods " ,

since I was first exposed to the idea more than nine years ago.

Occasionally, some attempt to use the term to convey a distinction between

" living food " and " raw food " . However, in my own personal experience, most

people use the term very casually and with less precision. For example, some

people express a belief that, because the enzymes in raw foods have not been

destroyed by heating, those foods possess a certain " life force " or " vital

energy " or the like; hence, they are " living foods " . But most people, who

speak in this way, seem to use such expressions in a fairly imprecise

manner, not really grounded in any personal knowledge of whatever science

may underlie such ideas. And far more frequently, I hear people use the

phrase " living food " interchangeably with " raw food " , in other words, very

casually.

 

There, that's one email down the hatch. :)

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

PS I would also like to share that I see no purpose in imagining the intent

of the folks behind this lawsuit; making such stuff up serves no

constructive purpose, in my opinion. For example, I do not find these events

fortunate or unfortunate; instead, I simply find them to be events. I prefer

to refrain from judgment and to wait and see how the parties work this out

between them, recognizing that there may be information of which we are all

presently unaware.

 

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Anne Kaspar

Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:10 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: " Living Foods " Tradmarked by Ann Wigmore Institute?

 

 

 

 

Brenda I am very sorry you have encountered the issues you have with the

PR and NM Ann Wigmore Institutes. However, copyrights are copyrights.

BUT, since 5 years passed, during which time the name " Living Foods " was

" open " for use, I am certain GREAT COUNSEL can assist you.

 

It is my belief, given my experience of the NM Ann Wigmore Institute,

which should be closed down by health authorities in my opinion, that

monetary motives are at work. While I cannot speak about the PR

Institute, I can say my experience with the people associated with and

running the NM Institute, have been trying to sell it (to personally

pocket monies), and are of questionable integrity. Again, this is my

personal opinion. Beware. Your counsel must carefully investigate the

persons responsible for this legal action.

 

I find it more than unfortunate that the anyone of the " Living Foods "

community would attack another. Needless to say, I agree also with

Gabriel Cousins. I am certain Brian Clements of the HHI would agree as

well. Perhaps you should consult with him as well. O

 

Best 2 U,

 

Anne Kaspar

 

Health and Wellness Consultant

 

BodyByBliss.com

 

bodybybliss@ <bodybybliss%40gmail.com> gmail.com <bodybybliss@

<bodybybliss%40gmail.com> gmail.com>

 

505.690.0169

 

rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com,

jerushy1944 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Yep. Ann Wigmore copyrighted the term. You are liable to get sued if

> you violate the copyright laws by using a copyrighted term

> commercially. This was posted on Doug Graham's forum several days ago

> and he gave some good answers. You can pick up the thread and follow

> it here: http://www.vegsourc

<http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/99922940.html>

e.com/talk/raw/messages/99922940.html

>

> Tommie

> http://www.rawburch <http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com> ard.blogspot.com

>

> rawfood@ <rawfood%40> .com, Paula

Wood wolfmother1@ wrote:

> >

> > [i am forwarding this message ...... Paula]

> >

> >

> > An open letter to the Raw and Living Foods Movement

> > by Brenda Cobb, author, and founder of Living Foods Institute

> >

> > I am writing you to ask for your help in reference to a lawsuit

> that the Ann Wigmore Foundation, Inc. (New Mexico and Puerto Rico)

> has filed against me for using the terms " living foods " and " living

> foods lifestyle " and for teaching information about " living foods "

> and the " living foods lifestyle. " They claim that the terms or

> phrases " living foods " and " the living foods lifestyle " are their

> property with a registered trademark and only they have the right to

> use them.

> >

> > My first book is called " The Living Foods Lifestyle. " It is my

> story of how I healed breast and cervical cancer using the principles

> of this healthy lifestyle. I was trained by Shu Chen in February

> 1999, then director of the Ann Wigmore Institute in New Mexico, who

> has since resigned. Shu encouraged me to teach what I learned from

> her and told me that it was Ann Wigmore's dream that many people

> would learn

> > about this lifestyle and would go on to teach others. I have been

> in touch with Shu about this lawsuit and she is being very supportive

> of me, and does not agree with this suit. She has not been associated

> with the Ann Wigmore Foundation since December, 1999, and has

> recently opened her own living foods educational center in New Mexico.

> >

> > The Ann Wigmore Foundation apparently trademarked the terms " living

> foods " and " living foods lifestyle " in 1992 and was cancelled

> February 22, 1999, before being re-registered in 2004. They let the

> trademark expire in 1999 and did not reinstate it until 2004. When I

> did research for my book title this did not come up.

> >

> > My attorneys are working on this case now and have told me that

> since there are so many other people using these terms and words and

> teaching about living foods that we are in need of emails or letters

> to support that these words have become commonplace among us. I would

> appreciate it so much if you would send me a letter in support of the

> fact that hundreds of teachers, writers, and leaders in this raw and

> living foods movement use these terms, including yourself, if you do,

> and that you do not agree that the Ann Wigmore people or any one

> > person or group should own the rights to these words or any similar

> words or phrases exclusively.

> >

> > The more supportive letters received from you the better it will

> help this case. Dr. Gabriel Cousens sent me a letter of support and

> in it he says, " If the Ann Wigmore Institute wins a claim to 'living

> foods' and 'living foods lifestyle' there will be many additional

> lawsuits to follow. "

> >

> > I believe that there is always a blessing in every situation and

> even though this lawsuit is extremely stressful for me I believe it

> will have a positive result for the greater good of all. This is, of

> course, a concern to me because what I would like to see is

> unification among those of us who are teaching this way of living and

> eating, and I would like to see this suit resolved peacefully in a

> spirit of love and harmony.

> >

> > Please help me now so that we can put a stop to this suit without

> going to court, and hopefully avoid future lawsuits against other

> advocates of the raw and living foods lifestyle. My attorneys say

> that if the Ann Wigmore Foundation were to win this suit, then there

> will be many other suits to follow. I need as many letters and emails

> from the leaders, writers and teachers in this movement as possible.

> Time is of the essence and we must act on this quickly. We must

> respond by

> > May 1 to the suit, so I need your letters by April 25, 2006.

> >

> > I know that all of you are very busy, but if you would please take

> a few moments to draft a letter to me by email and then send me a

> hard copy also, I will be most grateful. Thank you from the bottom of

> my heart.

> >

> > Brenda Cobb

> > Founder of Living Foods Institute

> > 560 Elmwood Drive

> > Atlanta, GA 30306

> > Brenda@

> > www.livingfoodsinstitute.com

> > Direct office line: 404-607-1816

> > Cell: 404-625-1956

> >

> > Thank You For Your Support!

> >

> > ----

> >

> >

> > When it is dark enough you can see the stars

> >

> >

> > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using

> Messenger with Voice.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I think you should read Jim Carey's open letter about Susan Lavender,

" Director " of the NM Ann Wigmore Institute to better understand my warning.

Enough said. I have made a judgment based on extensive experience with

REPUTABLE living fooders who help not hinder the word. Thank you.

 

Anne Kaspar

Bodybybliss.com

 

 

On 12/17/06, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Brenda, Anne, and everyone,

>

> From one post by Brenda, the person being sued and whose email address I

> provide in this message:

>

> My attorneys are working on this case now and have told me that since

> there

> are so many other people using these terms and words and teaching about

> living foods that we are in need of emails or letters to support that

> these

> words have become commonplace among us. I would appreciate it so much if

> you

> would send me a letter in support of the fact that hundreds of teachers,

> writers, and leaders in this raw and living foods movement use these

> terms,

> including yourself, if you do, and that you do not agree that the Ann

> Wigmore people or any one person or group should own the rights to these

> words or any similar words or phrases exclusively.

>

> If lots of people would simply respond to this request, this lawsuit will

> likely crumble and we can all go back to doing ... whatever we were doing.

> Otherwise, you'd be amazed at some of the lawsuits over trademarks that

> have

> been won, simply for lack of a vigorous defense.

>

> Speaking for myself only, I have heard countless people -- hundreds at the

> very least -- use the phrase " living food " , and the plural, " living

> foods " ,

> since I was first exposed to the idea more than nine years ago.

> Occasionally, some attempt to use the term to convey a distinction between

> " living food " and " raw food " . However, in my own personal experience, most

> people use the term very casually and with less precision. For example,

> some

> people express a belief that, because the enzymes in raw foods have not

> been

> destroyed by heating, those foods possess a certain " life force " or " vital

> energy " or the like; hence, they are " living foods " . But most people, who

> speak in this way, seem to use such expressions in a fairly imprecise

> manner, not really grounded in any personal knowledge of whatever science

> may underlie such ideas. And far more frequently, I hear people use the

> phrase " living food " interchangeably with " raw food " , in other words, very

> casually.

>

> There, that's one email down the hatch. :)

>

> Best to all,

> Elchanan

>

> PS I would also like to share that I see no purpose in imagining the

> intent

> of the folks behind this lawsuit; making such stuff up serves no

> constructive purpose, in my opinion. For example, I do not find these

> events

> fortunate or unfortunate; instead, I simply find them to be events. I

> prefer

> to refrain from judgment and to wait and see how the parties work this out

> between them, recognizing that there may be information of which we are

> all

> presently unaware.

>

> _____

>

> rawfood <rawfood%40> [

> rawfood <rawfood%40>] On Behalf Of

> Anne Kaspar

> Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:10 PM

> rawfood <rawfood%40>

> [Raw Food] Re: " Living Foods " Tradmarked by Ann Wigmore

> Institute?

>

> Brenda I am very sorry you have encountered the issues you have with the

> PR and NM Ann Wigmore Institutes. However, copyrights are copyrights.

> BUT, since 5 years passed, during which time the name " Living Foods " was

> " open " for use, I am certain GREAT COUNSEL can assist you.

>

> It is my belief, given my experience of the NM Ann Wigmore Institute,

> which should be closed down by health authorities in my opinion, that

> monetary motives are at work. While I cannot speak about the PR

> Institute, I can say my experience with the people associated with and

> running the NM Institute, have been trying to sell it (to personally

> pocket monies), and are of questionable integrity. Again, this is my

> personal opinion. Beware. Your counsel must carefully investigate the

> persons responsible for this legal action.

>

> I find it more than unfortunate that the anyone of the " Living Foods "

> community would attack another. Needless to say, I agree also with

> Gabriel Cousins. I am certain Brian Clements of the HHI would agree as

> well. Perhaps you should consult with him as well. O

>

> Best 2 U,

>

> Anne Kaspar

>

> Health and Wellness Consultant

>

> BodyByBliss.com

>

> bodybybliss@ <bodybybliss%40gmail.com> gmail.com <

> bodybybliss@

> <bodybybliss%40gmail.com> gmail.com>

>

> 505.690.0169

>

> rawfood@ <rawfood% <rawfood%25>40>

> .com,

> jerushy1944 <no_reply wrote:

> >

> > Yep. Ann Wigmore copyrighted the term. You are liable to get sued if

> > you violate the copyright laws by using a copyrighted term

> > commercially. This was posted on Doug Graham's forum several days ago

> > and he gave some good answers. You can pick up the thread and follow

> > it here: http://www.vegsourc

> <http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/99922940.html>

> e.com/talk/raw/messages/99922940.html

> >

> > Tommie

> > http://www.rawburch <http://www.rawburchard.blogspot.com>

> ard.blogspot.com

> >

> > rawfood@ <rawfood% <rawfood%25>

> 40> .com, Paula

> Wood wolfmother1@ wrote:

> > >

> > > [i am forwarding this message ...... Paula]

> > >

> > >

> > > An open letter to the Raw and Living Foods Movement

> > > by Brenda Cobb, author, and founder of Living Foods Institute

> > >

> > > I am writing you to ask for your help in reference to a lawsuit

> > that the Ann Wigmore Foundation, Inc. (New Mexico and Puerto Rico)

> > has filed against me for using the terms " living foods " and " living

> > foods lifestyle " and for teaching information about " living foods "

> > and the " living foods lifestyle. " They claim that the terms or

> > phrases " living foods " and " the living foods lifestyle " are their

> > property with a registered trademark and only they have the right to

> > use them.

> > >

> > > My first book is called " The Living Foods Lifestyle. " It is my

> > story of how I healed breast and cervical cancer using the principles

> > of this healthy lifestyle. I was trained by Shu Chen in February

> > 1999, then director of the Ann Wigmore Institute in New Mexico, who

> > has since resigned. Shu encouraged me to teach what I learned from

> > her and told me that it was Ann Wigmore's dream that many people

> > would learn

> > > about this lifestyle and would go on to teach others. I have been

> > in touch with Shu about this lawsuit and she is being very supportive

> > of me, and does not agree with this suit. She has not been associated

> > with the Ann Wigmore Foundation since December, 1999, and has

> > recently opened her own living foods educational center in New Mexico.

> > >

> > > The Ann Wigmore Foundation apparently trademarked the terms " living

> > foods " and " living foods lifestyle " in 1992 and was cancelled

> > February 22, 1999, before being re-registered in 2004. They let the

> > trademark expire in 1999 and did not reinstate it until 2004. When I

> > did research for my book title this did not come up.

> > >

> > > My attorneys are working on this case now and have told me that

> > since there are so many other people using these terms and words and

> > teaching about living foods that we are in need of emails or letters

> > to support that these words have become commonplace among us. I would

> > appreciate it so much if you would send me a letter in support of the

> > fact that hundreds of teachers, writers, and leaders in this raw and

> > living foods movement use these terms, including yourself, if you do,

> > and that you do not agree that the Ann Wigmore people or any one

> > > person or group should own the rights to these words or any similar

> > words or phrases exclusively.

> > >

> > > The more supportive letters received from you the better it will

> > help this case. Dr. Gabriel Cousens sent me a letter of support and

> > in it he says, " If the Ann Wigmore Institute wins a claim to 'living

> > foods' and 'living foods lifestyle' there will be many additional

> > lawsuits to follow. "

> > >

> > > I believe that there is always a blessing in every situation and

> > even though this lawsuit is extremely stressful for me I believe it

> > will have a positive result for the greater good of all. This is, of

> > course, a concern to me because what I would like to see is

> > unification among those of us who are teaching this way of living and

> > eating, and I would like to see this suit resolved peacefully in a

> > spirit of love and harmony.

> > >

> > > Please help me now so that we can put a stop to this suit without

> > going to court, and hopefully avoid future lawsuits against other

> > advocates of the raw and living foods lifestyle. My attorneys say

> > that if the Ann Wigmore Foundation were to win this suit, then there

> > will be many other suits to follow. I need as many letters and emails

> > from the leaders, writers and teachers in this movement as possible.

> > Time is of the essence and we must act on this quickly. We must

> > respond by

> > > May 1 to the suit, so I need your letters by April 25, 2006.

> > >

> > > I know that all of you are very busy, but if you would please take

> > a few moments to draft a letter to me by email and then send me a

> > hard copy also, I will be most grateful. Thank you from the bottom of

> > my heart.

> > >

> > > Brenda Cobb

> > > Founder of Living Foods Institute

> > > 560 Elmwood Drive

> > > Atlanta, GA 30306

> > > Brenda@

> > > www.livingfoodsinstitute.com

> > > Direct office line: 404-607-1816

> > > Cell: 404-625-1956

> > >

> > > Thank You For Your Support!

> > >

> > > ----

> > >

> > >

> > > When it is dark enough you can see the stars

> > >

> > >

> > > Blab-away for as little as 1�/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using

> > Messenger with Voice.

> > >

> > >