Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 Nice. Just two thoughts I'd love to share. Athene, you write: I am of the opinion that eating right alone will not entirely heal you. it must be combined with exercise and your own version of spirituality. Actually, we can take this sentiment much further. If one is not physically active -- burning calories -- then one can NEVER really eat " right " . Why? Because " right " for our species presumes that we live actively, as we are designed to live. When we are too sedentary, we consume fewer calories, and by definition we consume fewer of ALL nutrients than we are designed to consume. Hope that one makes sense. And not just activity (in place of " exercise " ) and spirituality, but dozens of factors contribute to our overall health ... sunshine, fresh air, hydration, rest (not just sleep), laughter, relaxation (in many forms, some far more useful than yoga, by the way). And these factors are not substitutable one for another. In other words, one cannot substitute activity for rest, or rest for proper food, or proper food for laughter, or ..... For those interested, this is the REAL meaning of Natural Hygiene, properly explained. Best to all, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Athene Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:29 PM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] the thin quandry I am so glad that you are getting better! I will give you my first exercise program that I started with and then I will give you my current one. My current one is not for everyone (although I think it should be LOL). When I first decided to heal myself I did a LOT of studying. This was about 7 years ago. I read and read and read, I listened to lectures, I researched into what I already knew (anthropology, history, biology, anatomy). I decided that gadgets and exercise fads would not work for me. I wanted something natural. As someone who used to be a martial artist, the idea of Yoga appealed to me, because it balanced the bodies energy and physical state. So every morning and every evening I did a bout 20 minutes of Yoga. Every day I would walk for at least 30 minutes outside. I found inside to be of no benefit. Outside provided me with sunlight, which helped me to heal. I usually walked before 10 AM and did not wear sunblock to receive the full benefits of the sun. The only thing I did do was wear sun glasses, because I am in Florida and have blue eyes. That was pretty much it. This began to help my problems, but I still had a few. such as pain (although not as severe) and irregular periods. So one day I had a very traditional " martial arts moment " LOL. I had a dream and my old sensei (teacher) told me he missed me and that I should return to Judo. I woke up and decided that I would return to Judo on my birthday. I did exactly that. Much to my surprise, my 18 year absence did not hinder me in my skills. just in my ability to work out. When I started I could do exactly 10 jumping jacks and 5 push ups and was able to work out slowly at only 20 minutes at a time. This exhausted me. I would go home stomping, frustrated at my memories of super athletic me, wondering how I let myself get this way. I was determined to not quit. and I didn't. Months went by and I found myself able to do more and more. At my year mark, I was going 4 days a week for 3 hours a day. I could make it through the whole classes. I went back to the docs to get myself tested. I was having NO PAIN during periods for about 6 months, and they were regular. The doc found that everything had balanced out. BP, Cholesterol, hormones, all very good. It has been going well ever since. I am embarking on my raw food journey because I want to further enhance my life. I feel I am capable of even more and I know this will help me in combination with my martial arts. So my first work out was the Yoga and walking. My second is that plus the martial arts. Honestly, if there is a martial arts school in your area, I would recommend going. Good martial arts teaches a balance of mind, body and spirit. I am of the opinion that eating right alone will not entirely heal you. it must be combined with exercise and your own version of spirituality. Everything in balance. Now probably you will not be working out 3 hours a day. I am a competitive martial artist, even other martial artists do not work out as much as I do. A few days a week for an hour or so would be good. I am of the opinion the first workout version (Yoga/Walking) will work fine, just a bit slower than the martial arts version (and probably faster if you are on raw foods, I was not at the time). The one thing I would NOT do is follow the latest exercise fads and buy the latest exercise gadgets. I try to get all of my exercise in the most natural way possible. I hope this was helpful to you. Athene Rachel Goldberg-Dancer Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:09 PM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] the thin quandry Athene thanks for sharing your story. It's wonderful to know how well you can direct your healing through diet etc. Would you be willing to desribe the exercise plan that worked for you? I have been healing from insulin resistance- similar in hormone imbalance to PCOS and similar in symptoms. My blood sugar levels no longer read as diabetic (insulin resistant) and my Doc is so happy- little does he know how much cinnamon has helped! Be in the Best of Health Rachel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 I think you have to have a balance of many things to be healthy. I've always been a very spiritual person. I think having faith is one of the best things you can do for your self. Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: Nice. Just two thoughts I'd love to share. Athene, you write: I am of the opinion that eating right alone will not entirely heal you. it must be combined with exercise and your own version of spirituality. Actually, we can take this sentiment much further. If one is not physically active -- burning calories -- then one can NEVER really eat " right " . Why? Because " right " for our species presumes that we live actively, as we are designed to live. When we are too sedentary, we consume fewer calories, and by definition we consume fewer of ALL nutrients than we are designed to consume. Hope that one makes sense. And not just activity (in place of " exercise " ) and spirituality, but dozens of factors contribute to our overall health ... sunshine, fresh air, hydration, rest (not just sleep), laughter, relaxation (in many forms, some far more useful than yoga, by the way). And these factors are not substitutable one for another. In other words, one cannot substitute activity for rest, or rest for proper food, or proper food for laughter, or .... For those interested, this is the REAL meaning of Natural Hygiene, properly explained. Best to all, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Athene Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:29 PM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] the thin quandry I am so glad that you are getting better! I will give you my first exercise program that I started with and then I will give you my current one. My current one is not for everyone (although I think it should be LOL). When I first decided to heal myself I did a LOT of studying. This was about 7 years ago. I read and read and read, I listened to lectures, I researched into what I already knew (anthropology, history, biology, anatomy). I decided that gadgets and exercise fads would not work for me. I wanted something natural. As someone who used to be a martial artist, the idea of Yoga appealed to me, because it balanced the bodies energy and physical state. So every morning and every evening I did a bout 20 minutes of Yoga. Every day I would walk for at least 30 minutes outside. I found inside to be of no benefit. Outside provided me with sunlight, which helped me to heal. I usually walked before 10 AM and did not wear sunblock to receive the full benefits of the sun. The only thing I did do was wear sun glasses, because I am in Florida and have blue eyes. That was pretty much it. This began to help my problems, but I still had a few. such as pain (although not as severe) and irregular periods. So one day I had a very traditional " martial arts moment " LOL. I had a dream and my old sensei (teacher) told me he missed me and that I should return to Judo. I woke up and decided that I would return to Judo on my birthday. I did exactly that. Much to my surprise, my 18 year absence did not hinder me in my skills. just in my ability to work out. When I started I could do exactly 10 jumping jacks and 5 push ups and was able to work out slowly at only 20 minutes at a time. This exhausted me. I would go home stomping, frustrated at my memories of super athletic me, wondering how I let myself get this way. I was determined to not quit. and I didn't. Months went by and I found myself able to do more and more. At my year mark, I was going 4 days a week for 3 hours a day. I could make it through the whole classes. I went back to the docs to get myself tested. I was having NO PAIN during periods for about 6 months, and they were regular. The doc found that everything had balanced out. BP, Cholesterol, hormones, all very good. It has been going well ever since. I am embarking on my raw food journey because I want to further enhance my life. I feel I am capable of even more and I know this will help me in combination with my martial arts. So my first work out was the Yoga and walking. My second is that plus the martial arts. Honestly, if there is a martial arts school in your area, I would recommend going. Good martial arts teaches a balance of mind, body and spirit. I am of the opinion that eating right alone will not entirely heal you. it must be combined with exercise and your own version of spirituality. Everything in balance. Now probably you will not be working out 3 hours a day. I am a competitive martial artist, even other martial artists do not work out as much as I do. A few days a week for an hour or so would be good. I am of the opinion the first workout version (Yoga/Walking) will work fine, just a bit slower than the martial arts version (and probably faster if you are on raw foods, I was not at the time). The one thing I would NOT do is follow the latest exercise fads and buy the latest exercise gadgets. I try to get all of my exercise in the most natural way possible. I hope this was helpful to you. Athene Rachel Goldberg-Dancer Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:09 PM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] the thin quandry Athene thanks for sharing your story. It's wonderful to know how well you can direct your healing through diet etc. Would you be willing to desribe the exercise plan that worked for you? I have been healing from insulin resistance- similar in hormone imbalance to PCOS and similar in symptoms. My blood sugar levels no longer read as diabetic (insulin resistant) and my Doc is so happy- little does he know how much cinnamon has helped! 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Guest guest Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 I agree! Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Blondy Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:48 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Activity & Health: Athene's program (WAS: the thin quandry) I think you have to have a balance of many things to be healthy. I've always been a very spiritual person. I think having faith is one of the best things you can do for your self. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=5520395/grpspId=1705015482/msgId =26619/stime=1166622672/nc1=3848443/nc2=4025347/nc3=3> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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