Constipated raw 16 month old

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

I'm new to the group. I've been interested in raw for many years. I

haven't made much of an effort to 'go raw', though now that I have

this beautiful creature I call my son I have a great desire to.

 

I exclusively breastfed my son, Zander, until he was a year old. He

still nurses & eats only raw foods. Since starting solids his BMs have

been 2 to 6 days apart & very difficult to pass.

 

I didn't think a raw food baby could be constipated.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Warmly,

Jennifer

[Guest guest]

Hi Jennifer,

 

 

 

I don't know if this will fit for your son or not.

 

 

 

However, when my son was a baby I had a LOT of difficulty when I tried to

start him on solids - he would get severely constipated.

 

 

 

I didn't start trying until he was 8 months old and he'd get constipated

even if the ONLY thing I gave him was prunes (I experimented with different

things that should not have been constipating and it just didn't matter what

he was given, anything solid was constipating for him).

 

 

 

I kept thinking he maybe wasn't ready and would go back to breastfeeding

exclusively. When he was over a year old and it was still happening someone

suggested I try chiropractic care for him.

 

 

 

It was weird but that helped a great deal. The chiropractor said he had

spinal subluxations that he felt probably had occurred in utero (my son was

a large baby at birth and I have a small frame). I started taking him 3

times/week at first and eventually he did get so that he was having bms

every day.

 

 

 

The food I was giving him wasn't raw at the time but given that you are

experiencing something similar giving foods that shouldn't be constipating,

I would wonder if something similar might be involved.

 

 

 

Good luck!!

 

 

 

Take care,

 

 

 

Carol Ann

 

 

 

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Hi All,

 

I'm new to the group. I've been interested in raw for many years. I

haven't made much of an effort to 'go raw', though now that I have

this beautiful creature I call my son I have a great desire to.

 

I exclusively breastfed my son, Zander, until he was a year old. He

still nurses & eats only raw foods. Since starting solids his BMs have

been 2 to 6 days apart & very difficult to pass.

 

I didn't think a raw food baby could be constipated.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Warmly,

Jennifer

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Jennifer,

I empathize with your concern. Some additional information would be helpful.

Exactly what foods are you feeding him, and in what order? (Yes, order is

important.)

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Jennifer Duncan

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:54 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Constipated raw 16 month old

 

 

Hi All,

 

I'm new to the group. I've been interested in raw for many years. I

haven't made much of an effort to 'go raw', though now that I have

this beautiful creature I call my son I have a great desire to.

 

I exclusively breastfed my son, Zander, until he was a year old. He

still nurses & eats only raw foods. Since starting solids his BMs have

been 2 to 6 days apart & very difficult to pass.

 

I didn't think a raw food baby could be constipated.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Warmly,

Jennifer

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Elchanan,

 

In the morning we'll have apple/pear sauce (some combination of apples & /or

pears, water, raisins, cinnamon, lemon juice) or a smoothie (rarely bananas,

mostly some combination of mangos, apples, pears, frozen berries, water, and a

couple ice cubes). Later in the day we'll have soup. Lately it's been broccoli

soup (soaked almonds, water, broccoli, avocado, agave, garlic, olive oil, onion,

sea salt, cumin, black pepper) or a veggie soup (tomato, celery, garlic, green

onion, carrots, avocado, water).

 

I've also been mixing flax oil in his food - 1 to 2 tbsp/day. That seems to be

helping.

 

And, of course, he nurses a lot during the day. I'm not raw and end up wondering

how much of my diet is affecting him.

 

Jennifer

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[Guest guest]

Raw foods don't constipate, really, but it may depend on what their diet is,

etc.

 

Schulze makes a herbal blend that is safe for children, even at that age, for

constipation.

 

He is at www.herbdoc.com and is highly affordable and the real deal. His

cleanses work great with a raw diet!!

 

Erica

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Raw foods can DEFINITELY constipate ... depends on the foods chosen! And no

additives are ever advisable, particularly in one so young. This can

probably be easily remedied ... but everyone is giving advice without having

a clue what this child is actually eating, and has been for awhile. I did

ask, yesterday, haven't seen a response, though. Without more information,

all this advice (not just this message) is uninformed, at the very least.

 

Best,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

School Of Rawk

Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:46 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Constipated raw 16 month old

 

 

Raw foods don't constipate, really, but it may depend on what their diet is,

etc.

 

Schulze makes a herbal blend that is safe for children, even at that age,

for constipation.

 

He is at www.herbdoc.com and is highly affordable and the real deal. His

cleanses work great with a raw diet!!

 

Erica

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

 

 

For constipation, I usually look to see if there’s enough fiber and enough

water.

 

 

 

Kathleen Scheps

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Greetings Jennifer,

 

Thanks so very much for sharing in such detail. I can only imagine that you

might be feeling concerned, even somewhat frightened, knowing that you are

doing things that are " supposed to be just right " , yet realizing that there

is a problem. FYI, it would be " normal " for your son to move his bowels

roughly once per feeding, and generally within a reasonable time afterward

(perhaps an hour or so, but that may vary until his system settles down.)

 

I'm packing for a move and already told most people that I wouldn't be

posting anymore for a couple of days, but I've continued scanning for a

message from you, so as not to have you wait. I sense your eagerness to make

positive changes. My apology if this response seems a bit brief, I'll share

more in a couple of days. For now ...

 

Basically, we humans run on oxygen, water, and fuel. When we consume enough

of these three, then in general we do fine. By this I mean, if we are eating

a diet that oxygenates, hydrates, and fuels us adequately, or sufficiently,

then that diet is most likely to bring us all the other nutrients we need,

and in healthful proportions. Of course, there are many other

considerations, but perhaps beginning with this single idea will be helpful

.... and manageable.

 

The foods that best accomplish these three objectives -- oxygenation,

hydration, fueling -- are those highest in water, simple sugar, and soluble

fiber. These foods are fruits and tender greens. So from your list below,

pears, bananas (yes, approx. 70% water), mangos, and apples fit this

description, and pretty much everything else does not. And particularly in

the system of someone so young (18 months, as I recall, don't have the prior

post in front of me), and whose entire system is still developing, gentle is

good, rough is, well, less than good. :) For example, any kind of nuts

would be physically rough going down. And I strongly suggest that you

eliminate all oils and salt, if you are using any salt.

 

What I suggest for now is a simple step to " get things moving " ; then we can

adjust more in a few days. Ready ...?

 

Put your son on a " breast milk fast " for a bit. In other words, return him

to his original diet, go " back to basics " . How long? Until the day arrives

when he poops at least 2-3 times during daylight hours (i.e., excluding when

he awakens). Then we can talk further about reintroducing other foods into

his diet in a gentle, orderly way that will give you the information (as

feedback from him) that you need.

 

If you find it almost impossible to do 100% breast milk at this stage, then

simply adjust the program, something like the following: do breast milk

first each day, and for as many feedings as you easily can. Then switch to

soft, wet fruits ... pears and mangos would be excellent choices, even

better than bananas and apples just for the moment. Most important, feed

these ONE food at a time ... for example, only mangos, or only pears. The

goal is simplicity, to make the digestive load as light and easy as

possible. Of course, let him eat as much as he desires, only control the

selection, not the quantity. Okay?

 

If you notice a few " icky " poops, that just grand (though perhaps stinky),

as it's a sign that things are beginning to move again. The ickyness will

pass. (No pun intended.

 

It's now Friday AM. I shall be taking down my computer shortly, and probably

be back online sometime Sunday the 24th. If/when you respond to this

message, please send a copy to my personal account,

Elchanan. I shall set up a rule in my email to flag any

message from you, so that I find it and can respond quickly once I am back

online.

 

Finally, Jennifer, before I close I wish to speak to you about you for just

a moment. I imagine it would be easy to question or judge yourself during a

circumstance such as this. I encourage you, in the strongest way I can, to

view yourself kindly. For you have done only what every mother does ... you

have given your beautiful son the very best you know to give him. And when

you have noticed a problem, you have sought help from others. These are acts

of love and caring, and I would hope that you hold yourself in that way. And

know that, in short order, your son will return to the easy, healthful state

in which he is designed to live and thrive.

 

Happy holidays to you, your family, and all who may be reading!

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Jennifer Duncan

Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:38 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Constipated raw 16 month old

 

 

Hi Elchanan,

 

In the morning we'll have apple/pear sauce (some combination of apples & /or

pears, water, raisins, cinnamon, lemon juice) or a smoothie (rarely bananas,

mostly some combination of mangos, apples, pears, frozen berries, water, and

a couple ice cubes). Later in the day we'll have soup. Lately it's been

broccoli soup (soaked almonds, water, broccoli, avocado, agave, garlic,

olive oil, onion, sea salt, cumin, black pepper) or a veggie soup (tomato,

celery, garlic, green onion, carrots, avocado, water).

 

I've also been mixing flax oil in his food - 1 to 2 tbsp/day. That seems to

be helping.

 

And, of course, he nurses a lot during the day. I'm not raw and end up

wondering how much of my diet is affecting him.

 

Jennifer

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Elchanan,

 

I responded to your post yesterday re the foods I've been feeding my son. Here's

a copy of it:

 

 

 

Hi Elchanan,

 

In the morning we'll have apple/pear sauce (some combination of apples & /or

pears, water, raisins, cinnamon, lemon juice) or a smoothie (rarely bananas,

mostly some combination of mangos, apples, pears, frozen berries, water, and a

couple ice cubes). Later in the day we'll have soup. Lately it's been broccoli

soup (soaked almonds, water, broccoli, avocado, agave, garlic, olive oil, onion,

sea salt, cumin, black pepper) or a veggie soup (tomato, celery, garlic, green

onion, carrots, avocado, water).

 

I've also been mixing flax oil in his food - 1 to 2 tbsp/day. That seems to be

helping.

 

And, of course, he nurses a lot during the day. I'm not raw and end up wondering

how much of my diet is affecting him.

 

Jennifer

~ I make milk. What's your superpower? ~

www.KissesForJJcups.blogspot.com

www.GregsStudio.com

 

 

Jennifer

~ I make milk. What's your superpower? ~

www.KissesForJJcups.blogspot.com

www.GregsStudio.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Elchanan,

 

Thank you for taking the time to respond given the business of this time or year

and the fact that you're moving.

 

You were right on when you said that I am concerned about my son's health. It's

been a very long time since he's had a BM after each feeding, even when solely

breastfed, which has leads me to look at my own diet.

 

When I read what you suggested I feel a bit overwhelmed - mostly when I think

about people asking me what I'm doing and why. I will simplify his diet as well

as I can. In fact, he's only had pear sauce, pureed carrots and breast milk for

a few days now. And only a few teaspoons of the pear sauce and carrots.

I just realized, as I've been sitting thinking about what else to write, that my

overwhelm is also from my lack of clarity about how to eat a healthy, balanced

raw food diet. I have read so much over the years, everything from eat anything

raw including meat to eat only fruit.

 

Now that I'm clear about where I am, I feel relief. I'll go back to exclusively

breastfeeding my son and see what happens. I'm looking forward to your response.

 

Jennifer

~ I make milk. What's your superpower? ~

www.KissesForJJcups.blogspot.com

www.GregsStudio.com

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

The real answer to this problem is that the baby needs a good ecosystem with

good natural flora. If he has candida then it will cause either constipation or

diarrhea. The Body Ecology Diet by Donna Gates will tell you as a mother how to

get the natural flora established in your son. This book gives REAL answers for

REAL problems. You can get it online at Amazon.com for under $17.00 plus

shipping/tax. I wish I knew about this when my children were small. They had

tremendous ear infections and a cycle of sickness that plagues them in their

20's and 30's. By feeding your son the right foods, the use of probiotics and

cultured foods (apple cider vinegar, kefir, and cultured vegetables) this should

do the trick.

 

Happy good health.

By the way, this book can help your son's family be healthy too.

Take care.

Sam

 

Jennifer Duncan <thanktheuniverse wrote:

Hi Elchanan,

 

Thank you for taking the time to respond given the business of this time or

year and the fact that you're moving.

 

You were right on when you said that I am concerned about my son's health. It's

been a very long time since he's had a BM after each feeding, even when solely

breastfed, which has leads me to look at my own diet.

 

When I read what you suggested I feel a bit overwhelmed - mostly when I think

about people asking me what I'm doing and why. I will simplify his diet as well

as I can. In fact, he's only had pear sauce, pureed carrots and breast milk for

a few days now. And only a few teaspoons of the pear sauce and carrots.

I just realized, as I've been sitting thinking about what else to write, that

my overwhelm is also from my lack of clarity about how to eat a healthy,

balanced raw food diet. I have read so much over the years, everything from eat

anything raw including meat to eat only fruit.

 

Now that I'm clear about where I am, I feel relief. I'll go back to exclusively

breastfeeding my son and see what happens. I'm looking forward to your response.

 

Jennifer

~ I make milk. What's your superpower? ~

www.KissesForJJcups.blogspot.com

www.GregsStudio.com

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Jennifer,

You may want to check out the book called " Green for Life " if you have

not already read it. If your baby can take the green smoothies, it

might be a great start for his little system. No chewing involved.

Also, try adding probiotics to his diet. Check out

www.carmendoll.mionegroup.com which has a certified organic probiotic

superfood. I feed my kids (2 1/2 and 7 months) mostly raw, green

smoothies, probiotics, and flax oil. Hope it helps.

 

rawfood , " Jennifer Duncan "

<thanktheuniverse wrote:

>

> Hi All,

>

> I'm new to the group. I've been interested in raw for many years. I

> haven't made much of an effort to 'go raw', though now that I have

> this beautiful creature I call my son I have a great desire to.

>

> I exclusively breastfed my son, Zander, until he was a year old. He

> still nurses & eats only raw foods. Since starting solids his BMs have

> been 2 to 6 days apart & very difficult to pass.

>

> I didn't think a raw food baby could be constipated.

>

> Any suggestions?

>

> Warmly,

> Jennifer

>