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Hi Melanie,

I'm SO glad you asked this question!!!

 

The focus on enzymes as life force or the like is a surefire way for RF

teachers and their loyal students to lose credibility in the presence of

people who actually know some science -- biology, physiology, biochemistry

in particular. I do deeply wish that every RF teacher would simply let go of

the entire topic and just move on.

 

Enzymes form a class of proteins, nothing more, nothing less. They perform 2

specific functions throughout all of Nature: they either put things

together, or they take things apart. When they take things apart and they

also happen to be located in the digestive system, we call them " digestive

enzymes " . When the very same enzymes are located on white blood cells and

perform the very same function, we call them by other names. I mean, not the

individual enzymes, but we no longer call them " digestive " . Now they become

part of our mythological " immune system " .

 

The human body is known to use more than 3000 (last time I checked)

different enzymes throughout its metabolic infrastructure. Of these,

approximately two dozen are classified as " digestive enzymes " .

 

There are simply not enough enzymes in any food of which I am aware to

support digestion inside a human body in the time required for healthful

digestion. That is, the vast majority of the digestive enzymes are ALWAYS

provided by the body.

 

Years ago (1030, 1937), a research scientist named Paul Kouchakoff published

two papers on his observations, noting that when people ate cooked foods,

the body tended to initiate a response he called " digestive leukocytosis " .

In other words, white blood cells flooded the blood stream, presumably to

deal with the cooked " food " as foreign matter. BUT ... Kouchakoff also found

that by feeding a person a small quantity of a given food raw, then

following with the same food cooked (or sometimes combined), the tendency

toward digestive leukocytosis pretty much disappeared. To my knowledge,

Kouchakoff's experiments have never been replicated, much less expanded

upon.

 

Some in the RF world have jumped upon his findings as a justification for

eating RF. They are not. At the very most, we might observe that, perhaps,

when the body receives the raw form of a food, the body picks up on what is

needed to digest that food and then manages to digest the cooked form of the

same food. But even this conclusion is speculative.

 

Further, that notion that we have a fixed lifetime supply of enzymes, or of

digestive enzymes, or whatever, is well-written nonsense -- it's simply

false. The potential lifespan for our species is presently unknown. Most

longevity experts agree that we have the potential to live at least 140-160

years, but that is more of an arm-wave then constructive science.

 

Years ago, another scientist (whose name eludes my memory for the moment) at

the Rockefeller Institute in New York took some human cells and put them

into a culture dish. He (his team) provided nourishment and waste removal

and observed. I cannot remember exactly, but I believe that, after watching

the cells thrive without aging for more than thirty years, the team threw

out the experiment, not knowing how to use their findings.

 

The point of all this is that, if our individual cells can thrive in such a

way, then our entire organism can, as well. Enzymes are simply not a primary

reason for eating raw food, or anything else, for that matter. It is true

that, when eating cooked food, adding a pile of digestive enzymes aids

digestion, but people simply assume this occurs because the added enzymes

enhance the digestive process directly. This may be so, to an extent, but it

is equally likely that the body recognizes the enzymes, treats them as a

model, and goes from there.

 

Sorry to burst a big bubble! Best to all,

Elchanan

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

melanieburtis

Friday, January 05, 2007 8:22 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: UV Pasturization

 

 

rawfood , " dt king " <whipmaker wrote:

 

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan@> wrote:

 

Enzymes cannot be killed, as they are not living organisms to begin with.

Elchanan Fair enough; I can rephrase. Does the molecular disruption from UV

exposure that inactivates E. Coli also break down the enzimes in apple

cider that may or may not be beneficial to human health in a similar manner

or extent that heat pasturization also breaks down food enzimes?

 

Just wonderin'.

 

David King Well then, if enzymes can't be killed, I'm confused because I

thought a large part of the reason for going raw was because cooked food

kills the enzymes of which your body only produces a set amount during your

life. This is what I thought the term living foods came from, i.e., that

they contained LIVE enzymes. Elchanan, or anyone else, please explain.

 

Thanks, Melanie

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rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

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> Hi Melanie,

> I'm SO glad you asked this question!!!

>

Hi Elchanan,

 

I'm SO glad you answered my question ;>))

 

Thanks so much! I appreciate your scientific knowledge of the subject matter at

hand. In

other posts you make that I read, I also appreciate your integration of the

concept of whole-

health, rather than just focusing upon the food one eats. Creating lasting

health is so much

more.

 

Melanie

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rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

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> Years ago (1030, 1937), a research scientist named Paul Kouchakoff

published

> two papers on his observations, noting that when people ate cooked

foods,

> the body tended to initiate a response he called " digestive

leukocytosis " .

> In other words, white blood cells flooded the blood stream,

presumably to

> deal with the cooked " food " as foreign matter.

 

Guy must have had something going for him, to be publishing over the

span of a millenium. :-)

 

My initial introduction to the notion of enzymes was from the popular

Carol Alt book, Eating in the Raw. Her point of view -- attributed to

Nicholas J. Gonzales, m.d. -- was that the body might be reusing

enzymes in raw food, rather than having to fabricate them from scratch

with the basic elements of cooked food. The idea was that building

enzymes took much more energy than getting them off the shelf.

 

I take a cosmological attitude. If an eating model based on fairies

and spirits makes me healthy and fit, I'll get on that train. My

primary criteria for any plan of action is that it needs to work.

Don't do what doesn't work. That's why I gave up on portion control

diets years ago.

 

Eating raw works for me. Say it's from preserving enzymes, life

force, glycemic foobars; just as long as I can sort out the good food

from the bad food.

 

David King

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I agree, David, and at the same time, we all benefit from having support in

the scientific/technical community. The typical RF enzyme discussion

diminishes, rather than enhances, that support. So to the extent that any of

us is willing to lift up our eyes and look beyond ourselves, then this may

seem important to some. Just a point of view, not " true " or " false " .

Best,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

dt king

Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:38 PM

rawfood

Re: Enzymes and Raw Food (WAS: [Raw Food] UV Pasturization)

 

 

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I take a cosmological attitude. If an eating model based on fairies

and spirits makes me healthy and fit, I'll get on that train. My

primary criteria for any plan of action is that it needs to work.

Don't do what doesn't work. That's why I gave up on portion control

diets years ago.

 

Eating raw works for me. Say it's from preserving enzymes, life

force, glycemic foobars; just as long as I can sort out the good food

from the bad food.

 

David King

 

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