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Hi Everyone,

 

I went to the doctor's last week and he told me that my cholesterol

was too high and that I was lacking enough B12 (I took this blood test

several months ago, before starting Raw Fooding). Over the weekend, I

started taking (per day): 1-2 Mulitvitamins, 0-2 Calcium Pills, 1 B12

Pill, and 1-3 Fish Oil Pills. I've had an almost constant headache

and unbearable fatigue for two days now. Do you think it might be

because I'm taking too many vitamins?

 

Thanks for any input,

Jenn

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Hi Jenn!

Your note fits perfectly with a discussion on vitamins going on right now!

Headache and fatigue are actually the classical symptoms of too much

vitamin D, and the way most people overdose on vitamin D is by taking

too much fish oil supplementation. Sounds like that might be you!

You shouldn't need to take anything beyond the multivitamin...it

should be balanced in the b complex and D and calcium already, so I

would suggest cutting out everything but the multivitamin.

Get those raw veggies into you (uncooked!) and your cholesterol should

come down. Also make sure to eat fruit on an empty stomach and not

with anything else...this will ensure the vitamins and nutrients from

the fruit are properly absorbed instead of excreted as waste, and will

also help cholesterol. Or do the smoothie thing and then you can

combine them...there is another member here who posted recently and

she seems to know a lot about smoothies, so maybe ask her for good

recipes!

For further b12 and D supplementation, have a nice FRESH fish fillet

baked once or twice a week and a good organic steak the other week for

a while, with lightly steamed (with a bit of butter :) ) or raw

veggies as sides (no starchy food like potatoes or rice with the

meat...just the green veggies).

 

Hope this helps!

 

All the best,

 

Joe

 

 

 

rawfood , " rabbit_is_wise_04 "

<jennifersmith wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I went to the doctor's last week and he told me that my cholesterol

> was too high and that I was lacking enough B12 (I took this blood test

> several months ago, before starting Raw Fooding). Over the weekend, I

> started taking (per day): 1-2 Mulitvitamins, 0-2 Calcium Pills, 1 B12

> Pill, and 1-3 Fish Oil Pills. I've had an almost constant headache

> and unbearable fatigue for two days now. Do you think it might be

> because I'm taking too many vitamins?

>

> Thanks for any input,

> Jenn

>

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That's okay Rawk! A democracy of ideas helps everyone!

Sometimes I forget about the environmental and humane concerns...I

grew up a hunter and everything (as if!) and lived on a large farm

with tons of animals of all kinds...you build up a tolerance for

animal rights when exposed to that for so long!

 

Please, after me telling this person to go eat some meat (as if I did

that), please suggest some better alternatives! Some herbal

supplements perhaps? I am totally for that now that you helped get me

on track! ;) Thanks :)

 

Joe

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I honestly think that people need to be tested for deficiencies and

imbalances. There is too much speculation. The trick is finding a good

doctor to do it. The same symptom can mean candida, hormonal

imbalances, or a D deficiency. I think before we speculate and just

start taking supplements, we should know, either through kinesiology

or bloodwork. I have symptoms of Vitamin B deficiency, but I am not.

Why? Because of candida. I would urge the same of others.

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Why on EARTH would you take fish oil for health?

 

Take coconut oil for cholestorol, but you NEED healthy fats, yes. When

you don't get enough fat, cholestorol can go up. That is what happened

to a friend on Graham's fat-phobic " diet " .

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Isn't it only the " good " cholesterol that goes up? LDL cholesterol?

Does anyone know why it goes up, and what is it used for?

 

Totally agree though we need " good " fat in our diet!

 

Joe

 

 

rawfood , " Erica " <schoolofrawk wrote:

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> Why on EARTH would you take fish oil for health?

>

> Take coconut oil for cholestorol, but you NEED healthy fats, yes. When

> you don't get enough fat, cholestorol can go up. That is what happened

> to a friend on Graham's fat-phobic " diet " .

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rawfood , " Erica " <schoolofrawk wrote:

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> Why on EARTH would you take fish oil for health?

>

> Take coconut oil for cholestorol, but you NEED healthy fats, yes.

When

> you don't get enough fat, cholestorol can go up. That is what

happened

> to a friend on Graham's fat-phobic " diet " .

>

 

I am in the process of considering raw. I currently practice

calorie restriction and, to some degree, the Eat To Live diet

advocated by Dr. Furhman:

 

http://snipurl.com/1972s (Amazon link)

 

His is basically a 50% raw - 50% cooked program. The idea

being that some nutrients are more assimilable in cooked

foods. For example, increased bioavailability of lycopene

from tomatoes.

 

Anyway, the issues being discussed in these vitamin threads

are fascinating to me and really highlight some of the things

that have kept me from taking the full plunge.

 

a) As Erica notes, the soils of today are not as rich as

those of the past, so supplementation may be necessary even

with the healthiest of diets.

 

b) Basing a diet on that of our ancestors fails to take into

account that we can probably do better and further that they

didn't really live into old age.

 

c) The raw food diet always struck me as rather high in fat.

And (sorry Erica), I certainly wouldn't recommend coconut

as the source of that which one does get.

 

d) On the other hand, Graham goes to the other extreme and

recommends too little protein for my comfort. Is there no

happy medium? My current diet averages a P/C/F ratio of

20/65/15.

 

I hope I don't offend anyone with my stumbling blocks.

They are merely that, i.e., what has been holding me back,

a probably not complete list of concerns from a newbie.

I think it's important we not let dogma get in the way

of our striving to create optimum health. Let's do it,

taking the best from all the gurus and science.

 

 

-Erin

www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

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