Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Until the AR Movement WAKES UP and realizes the progressively irrational insanity of our govt labeling us " terrorists " ; and the IMMEDIATE IMPERATIVE that this rhetoric must be STOPPED, we will continue at their deranged 'mercy' -- think Nazi Germany, folks! Isn't ANYONE fed up with this!? Why are all of the multi-million $$ AR Orgs SILENT on this issue?!? Why aren't the rest of us actively seeking out civil liberties attorneys to challenge this garbage?! PLEASE,PLEASE GET ANGRY!ORGANIZE!TAKE ACTION!...BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! If someone reading this knows an attorney or law student that can help--don't let the opportunity pass--ask them to get involved! If you can help or know of others who can, please email me: endspeciescide ~Vegetarians On The Government's Most Wanted Lists As Domestic Terrorists & How To Get Your Name Off~ December 29, 2009 Numerous animal rights extremists, including some ardent vegetarians and vegans also are on the government's most wanted lists as domestic terrorists. Are you wondering whether a name exactly like yours is listed on any of the US Terror Lists? Here's how to find out. First, start with the largest collection of 550,000 names called the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment Database. It's called TIDE for short. Who gets on this list of more than half a million names? The database is kept by the National Counterterrorism Center. It was set up after 9/11/2001. Are you on this list? How do you know whether someone with your exact name is on this list, but isn't you? Interestingly, the Detroit bombing suspect, Mumar Arouk Abdulmutallab is on this list. Even though his father, a successful banker in Nigeria, warned the US Embassy to look into the matter of his radical son, no one at that time singled out his name from more than half a million other names. Can you check the list to see whether someone with your name is on the list? Can you be mistaken for that person when you try to fly? Check out the website of the National Counterterrorism Center. Your second step to find out whether your name is on one of the U.S. terror lists, is to check out the Consolidated Terrorist Watch List. Slightly less than half a million persons are on this list, about 400,000 presently. You're moved onto this list, kept by the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center, if there's sufficient evidence in your biography and identifying data to justify a reasonable suspicion about you. And also before you get on this list you have to be screened so that it's you who matches the name on the list. You have to be suspected of or engaged in or just preparing to engage in terrorist activities. On this list there are 400 to 1,200 additions, deletions, or changes daily to this list. Checkout the FBI's Terrorist Screening Center website. What are the chances that your name got on this list? According to its website, " FBI's Terrorist Screening Center (TSC) maintains the U.S. government’s consolidated Terrorist Watchlist—a single database of identifying information about those known or reasonably suspected of being involved in terrorist activity. " By supporting the ability of front line screening agencies to positively identify known or suspected terrorists trying to obtain visas, enter the country, board aircraft, or engage in other activity, the consolidated Terrorist Watchlist is one of the most effective counterterrorism tools for the U.S. government. " TSC is leading significant improvements in counterterrorism information sharing among federal, state, local, and international agencies by distributing information about encounters with known or suspected terrorists reported to its 24/7 call center. While undertaking these activities, TSC is also dedicated to ensuring the data it stores is maintained in a manner consistent with protecting the privacy and civil liberties of Americans. " What's the next list you might check to see whether your name is on it? It's the Selectee List. This is a subset of the watch list. There are currently around 14,000 people on that list. According to Wikipedia, the Secondary Security Screening Selection or Secondary Security Screening Selectee, known by its acronym SSSS, is an airport security measure in the United States and Canada which selects passengers for additional inspection. This may also be known as Automatic Selectee or the Selectee list. According to the ACLU site, here's what's known as the " Selectee List. " What is the " Selectee List " ? Most airports reserve one of their security checkpoints for intensive passenger screening, typically involving hand-held metal detectors and opening of carry on bags. Some people are selected at random for enhanced screening. In addition, the TSA maintains a " Selectee List " (sometimes called the " Automatic Selectee List " ) of people who are automatically and intentionally selected for enhanced screening every time they fly. When a person is selected for enhanced screening either at random or intentionally, the boarding pass will typically have the letters " SSSS " stamped on it. What is the difference between the No Fly List and the Selectee List? People on the No Fly List are not allowed to board airplanes and will not be given a boarding pass. People on the Selectee List will be given a boarding pass and allowed to fly, but only after undergoing heightened security screening. People who are mistaken for persons on the No Fly List or Selectee List will be allowed to fly, but only after a delay and usually after enhanced screening. Thousands of names are on the Selectee List and the No Fly List. According to the ACLU site, because the government keeps the information secret, the public has no way to know how the TSA decides that a person " may be a threat to civil aviation or national security. " The ACLU of Northern California is pursuing a lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act to obtain more information about the selection criteria. Click here for more information. As of December 2009, there were about 14,000 people on the Selectee List. You get on this list when and if you pose a terrorist threat and there's more information about your activities that suggest you pose a threat, especially to aviation. You'll get stricter screening when you fly if you end up on this list. The No Fly List is a subset of the watch list with about 3,400 individuals as of Dec. 2009 on the list. But only 170 names are those of U.S. residents. To get tossed on this list, you have to meet specific criteria showing you really present a threat to civil aviation and/or national security. What you have to do is find out whether there's someone with your exact name and similar statistics such as age or origin that could confuse a screener when you fly. You may not be on the list but someone with the same name, age, and similar qualifications might be on there. When it comes time for you to fly, you could be kept from flying. That's why it's a good idea to find out whether your name is on this list without you knowing it. According to the ACLU site, the government will not say who is or is not on these lists. People first learn that they are on the lists - or are mistaken for someone on the lists - when they encounter problems at the airport. If you are ultimately allowed onto a plane, this means you are not on the No Fly List (although you may be on the Selectee List). Typically, affected people cannot use the Internet or the airport kiosks for automated check-in, and instead must report to the ticket counter in person. Airline personnel sometimes, but not always, are willing to tell passengers whether they are on a list or what part of their name matches someone on the list. Getting Off the List How do you get off the list if your name or somebody else with the same name is on the list? According to the ACLU site, The Office of Transportation Security Redress within the TSA is responsible for assisting passengers who have been delayed or detained because they are mistaken for a person on a watch list. By sending a Traveler Identity Verification Form (TIVF), some people have been able to reduce the confusion between themselves and persons on the lists. However, others have found that the procedure is not fully effective. Information about the process, including copies of the TIVF, are available here. How can you get your name removed from the No Fly List or Selectee List? In December 2004, Congress directed the TSA to establish a procedure to allow persons to appeal their placement on the No Fly List or Selectee List, according to the ACLU site. If you believe you are actually on the list (and are not simply mistaken for someone on the list), the ACLU site advises, " please contact the ACLU to discuss the methods for appeal. " -30- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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