Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Dear Dr Krishna, Thank you very much for your views. I am in total agreement. A few months ago, I wrote an article in the Telegraph on the laxity of laws regarding elephants in India. A big cause for worry is the origin and ownership of these elephants. Elephants are still being traded in India and that is a huge problem that we should all try to address. I would venture that it is very difficult to determine how and where these elephants were captured in the first place. I think Azam's idea of posting a video is a sound one. I am also willing to air any footage of elephant training( I have footage of African Elephant training but as I mentioned the breaking in methods are the same)that I may possess. Mr Raj Panjwani mentioned a very important point: that of records of training methods. One of the most comprehensive studies of elephant training methods was done by Oxford University researchers Ros Clubb and Georgia Mason in 2002. The study was commissioned by the RSPCA and deals principally with zoo elephants but it is one of the most comprehensive studies ever undertaken on elephants in the world. I found it of immense use during the zoo project and managed an interview with her in 2004. I have a copy of the study and am posting the Oxford University press release for a brief overview. I am quite willing to share the bit on training elephants that Mr Panjwani talked about. It would be useful in a court case. Thanks again for writing. Your views are appreciated as always. Best wishes and kind regards, Yours sincerely, http://www.ox.ac.uk/blueprint/2002-03/3110/13.shtml [image: Oxford Blueprint: the University Newsletter]<http://www.ox.ac.uk/blueprint/> [image: *][image: Main stories this issue]<http://www.ox.ac.uk/blueprint/2002-03/3110/index.shtml>[image: Other News this issue]<http://www.ox.ac.uk/blueprint/2002-03/3110/other.shtml>[image: Events Diary] <http://www.admin.ox.ac.uk/nb/events.shtml>[image: Blueprint]<http://www.ox.ac.uk/blueprint/> 31 October 2002 The newsletter of the University of Oxford Vol. 3 Issue 2 ------------------------------ Jumbo welfare problems in zoo elephants Zoo elephants are stressed and unhealthy, with a massively reduced life expectancy, according to Oxford biologists Dr Ros Clubb and Dr Georgia Mason. In an independent report released last week, they call for zoos to stop importing and breeding elephants until they can prove that their welfare problems are completely solved. In the fullest study ever conducted on zoo elephant welfare, the researchers in the Department of Zoology found that Asian elephants in European zoos have just half the lifespan of animals working in timber camps - living until around 15, instead of 30 years old. None live to the 60-65 years possible in the wild. Elephants born in zoos are most vulnerable, dying 10 years earlier than animals caught from the wild. Also likely to die young are the many zoo females that start breeding abnormally early (at 12 or under, compared with 18-20 years old in the wild). These findings emerged when the biologists analysed records of elephant births and deaths collected for up to 100 years by zoos across Europe. The study, funded by the RSPCA, also reviewed over 100 other previous publications, finding yet more evidence of poor welfare. 'Work by other biologists had already set alarm bells ringing', said Dr Clubb. 'It showed that about 35 per cent of zoo females fail to breed, that 15-25 per cent of Asian elephant calves are stillborn, and that another 6-18 per cent are rejected or even killed by their mothers. 'Zoo elephants have also been found to be around 50 per cent heavier than wild animals, and many of them show abnormal behaviour, like weaving to and fro.' Dr Mason added: 'Our job was to put all these studies together and add new data, to give an overview of zoo elephant welfare. We were shocked at what emerged. Now the urgent task is to find out how to solve these problems. There are a lot of strong beliefs out there, but now we need real, objective data on what captive elephants need for good welfare. Only then can we judge whether zoos can ever reliably keep these animals well.' ------------------------------ [ Issue Index <http://www.ox.ac.uk/blueprint/2002-03/3110/index.shtml> | Blueprint Home <http://www.ox.ac.uk/blueprint/> | University Gazette<http://www.ox.ac.uk/gazette/>| University of Oxford <http://www.ox.ac.uk/> | Feedback <press.office ] ©2002, University of Oxford On 10/15/06, drkrishna <drkrishna wrote: > > I am certain that the organisers of the elephant polo tournament will > not bother to comply with the legal requirements unless forced to do > so by an AWO. > The penalty for non-compliance is so small that no one is really > concerned about it and enforcement is extremely lax. > > Mr. Shand can speak about helping elephant conservation and may be the > tournament will indeed draw attention to the plight of elephants in > India. However, what many of us are concerned about is the welfare > aspect and there can be little doubt that the welfare of the animals > used in the tournament will be severely compromised, whether ankus are > used or not. > > S. Chinny Krishna > Blue Cross of India > > Quoting : > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Raj Panjwani <rajp339 > > Oct 15, 2006 10:40 AM > > Re: RAJASTHANI ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANISATION TO ORGANISE ELEPHANT > > POLO TOURNAMENT > > > > > > There are three prior legal requirements that need to be complied with: > i) > > the person who owns the elephant should possess an ownership certificate > > granted by the Chief Wildlife Warden of the State, of which the owner is > an > > ordinary resident. ii) If the elephant is from outside the state, than > the > > owner needs to have a transfer certificate issued by the CWW of the > state to > > which the animal has been brought. iii) Polo being an event/performance > the > > owner needs to have the permission of the AWBI/Director Animal Welfare, > > MOEFunder the PCA (Performance of Animals) Rules. Are there any studies > > undertaken to evaluate the kind of training an elephant needs to undergo > > inorder to do a polo performance.If these studies are available, please > > forward them to AWBI/Director, Animal Welfare, MOEF with your views on > the > > issue. > > Raj. > > > > > > > > > > [image: Send Feedback] > > < > http://www.financialexpress.com/about/feedback.html?url=http://www.financialexpr\ ess.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=142773 & title=Mark%20of%20an%20elephant%20ma\ n > > > > [image: E-mail this story] > > <http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=142773#> > > [image: > > Print this story] > > <http://www.financialexpress.com/print.php?content_id=142773> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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