centrifugal juicer - which to buy?

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Any advice on which centrifugal juicer to buy?

 

My wife has decided it is what we want for Xmas.

I know nothing about what to look for, so would appreciate advice on

features, brand names, models to watch for (or avoid).

 

We are in a region of Canada with few big retailers so tips on retailers

who might provide mail order would also be much appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

~Paul

 

 

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Paul Falvo <pfalvo wrote: Any advice

on which centrifugal juicer to buy?

 

My wife has decided it is what we want for Xmas.

I know nothing about what to look for, so would appreciate advice on

features, brand names, models to watch for (or avoid).

 

We are in a region of Canada with few big retailers so tips on retailers

who might provide mail order would also be much appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

~Paul

 

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Paul,

 

As a fellow Canadian, I can suggest trying an Ebay store. I looked at

juicers and blenders last year and decided to get a blender. (I was

convinced after doing some studying at www.rawfoodadvantage.com) I

bought the Waring Pro 3Hp+ from an online store, I prefer to blend

than juice so I get the fiber. Even for wheatgrass, I can blend with

water and strain it, it is not a perfect method but with the level of

nutrients you get from wheatgrass, does it really need to be squeezed

to the nth degree? I live in the Vancouver area, and although you

can buy high end juicers and blenders here, from health food stores

or restaurant suppliers, I could only find the Waring pro for more

than $200 over the online price from the US (including shipping and

exchange rates). I ordered a week before Xmas and it showed up Xmas

eve.

 

Good Luck

Christine

 

 

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> Paul Falvo <pfalvo wrote: Any

advice on which centrifugal juicer to buy?

>

> My wife has decided it is what we want for Xmas.

> I know nothing about what to look for, so would appreciate advice

on

> features, brand names, models to watch for (or avoid).

>

> We are in a region of Canada with few big retailers so tips on

retailers

> who might provide mail order would also be much appreciated.

>

> Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

> ~Paul

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After more research, I confess I am more confused than before I started.

www.rawfoodadvantage.com claims that a blender is much better than a

juicer (and in fact that 3HP is no longer adequate ... 3.5 being the new

standard) ... while other websites claim that juicing is far superior to

blending because otherwise nutrients are indigestible.

 

I am left thinking it is essential to eat lots of fruits and vegetables,

and that raw is often better than cooked ... but I am frankly baffled as

to whether a juicer or blender -- or neither -- is a good idea.

 

Thoughts?

 

Thanks ... especially to Christine for the original advice on blenders.

~P

 

> As a fellow Canadian, I can suggest trying an Ebay store. I looked at

> juicers and blenders last year and decided to get a blender. (I was

> convinced after doing some studying at www.rawfoodadvantage.com) I

> bought the Waring Pro 3Hp+ from an online store, I prefer to blend

> than juice so I get the fiber. Even for wheatgrass, I can blend with

> water and strain it, it is not a perfect method but with the level of

> nutrients you get from wheatgrass, does it really need to be squeezed

> to the nth degree?

[Guest guest]

A blender is definitely NOT a substitute for a juicer. They perform two

totally different functions. The best juicers, from what I've learned, are the

Green Star/Green Life, and the Champion. I have an older Champion, given to me

by someone in a vegan group I belonged to a while back, but I hope to be able

to afford a Green Star or Green Life juicer in the future, just to kind of

have the most up-to-date juicer I can--not because my Champion isn't doing the

job.

 

Centrifugal juicers are adequate for juicing, but aren't ideal. And they may

not perform the other functions a masticating juicer does. I can't help you

with brand names of centrifugal juicers, never having owned one, or looked

into it. Rev. Malkmus of Hallelujah Acres (a Christian raw vegan website which

is AWESOME), has lots of information on juicers, juicing, and they also sell

several different kinds of juicers, plus replacement parts. Their website

(which is well worth a look, even if you aren't a Christian) is

_www.hacres.com_

(http://www.hacres.com) . Whenever possible financially, choose one of

these juicers over a centrifugal one. But ANY juicer is better than none,

obviously.

 

As to blenders, if you can afford one, a Vita-Mix is top of the line, no

question. So far, I haven't been able to afford one, but someday I hope to.

 

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Hi Paul -- I got a new book for Christmas that has a section about

selecting kitchen tools, and it discusses juicers. It is called Rainbow

Green Live-Food Cuisine, and is written by Gabriel Cousens, a doctor

apparently who is the director of the Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center

in Patagonia (www.treeoflife.nu).

 

Anyway. Here's what he has to say about this:

" Most home juicers are of the centrifugal type. The quality of the juice

extracted from this type of juicer is less than ideal because as the

centrifugal mechanism spins at high speed, it shreds the produce, which

therefore oxidizes more rapidly. Centrifugal juicers also tend to waste

produce because they are unable to fully break down the cell wall and

extract all the juices.

 

The best type of juicer is one that masticates the produce at low speeds

and therefore preserves the health-giving qualities of the juice. ...

The juicer of the brand name " Green Star " is perhaps the best

masticating juicer currently available. (It) is capable of juicing all

types of produce, including green leafy vegetables (even grasses); it

can also effectively homogenize nuts and seeds for patés. "

 

There is a bit more, but that's the main gist. They also have info and

recommendations for blenders and food processors.

Good luck with your search and decision -- let us know how it works out!

Heather (in Ontario)

 

Paul Falvo wrote:

>

> After more research, I confess I am more confused than before I started.

> www.rawfoodadvantage.com claims that a blender is much better than a

> juicer (and in fact that 3HP is no longer adequate ... 3.5 being the new

> standard) ... while other websites claim that juicing is far superior to

> blending because otherwise nutrients are indigestible.

>

> I am left thinking it is essential to eat lots of fruits and vegetables,

> and that raw is often better than cooked ... but I am frankly baffled as

> to whether a juicer or blender -- or neither -- is a good idea.

>

> Thoughts?

>

> Thanks ... especially to Christine for the original advice on blenders.

> ~P

>

> > As a fellow Canadian, I can suggest trying an Ebay store. I looked at

> > juicers and blenders last year and decided to get a blender. (I was

> > convinced after doing some studying at www.rawfoodadvantage.com) I

> > bought the Waring Pro 3Hp+ from an online store, I prefer to blend

> > than juice so I get the fiber. Even for wheatgrass, I can blend with

> > water and strain it, it is not a perfect method but with the level of

> > nutrients you get from wheatgrass, does it really need to be squeezed

> > to the nth degree?

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

We have a Green Star and love it. The biggest issue for us is cleanup, but that

is just true of juicing. :-)

 

Linda

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Heather <hlh4850

 

Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:48:07 AM

Re: Re: centrifugal juicer - which to buy?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Paul -- I got a new book for Christmas that has a section about

 

selecting kitchen tools, and it discusses juicers. It is called Rainbow

 

Green Live-Food Cuisine, and is written by Gabriel Cousens, a doctor

 

apparently who is the director of the Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center

 

in Patagonia (www.treeoflife. nu).

 

 

 

Anyway. Here's what he has to say about this:

 

" Most home juicers are of the centrifugal type. The quality of the juice

 

extracted from this type of juicer is less than ideal because as the

 

centrifugal mechanism spins at high speed, it shreds the produce, which

 

therefore oxidizes more rapidly. Centrifugal juicers also tend to waste

 

produce because they are unable to fully break down the cell wall and

 

extract all the juices.

 

 

 

The best type of juicer is one that masticates the produce at low speeds

 

and therefore preserves the health-giving qualities of the juice. ...

 

The juicer of the brand name " Green Star " is perhaps the best

 

masticating juicer currently available. (It) is capable of juicing all

 

types of produce, including green leafy vegetables (even grasses); it

 

can also effectively homogenize nuts and seeds for patés. "

 

 

 

There is a bit more, but that's the main gist. They also have info and

 

recommendations for blenders and food processors.

 

Good luck with your search and decision -- let us know how it works out!

 

Heather (in Ontario)

 

 

 

Paul Falvo wrote:

 

>

 

> After more research, I confess I am more confused than before I started.

 

> www.rawfoodadvantag e.com claims that a blender is much better than a

 

> juicer (and in fact that 3HP is no longer adequate ... 3.5 being the new

 

> standard) ... while other websites claim that juicing is far superior to

 

> blending because otherwise nutrients are indigestible.

 

>

 

> I am left thinking it is essential to eat lots of fruits and vegetables,

 

> and that raw is often better than cooked ... but I am frankly baffled as

 

> to whether a juicer or blender -- or neither -- is a good idea.

 

>

 

> Thoughts?

 

>

 

> Thanks ... especially to Christine for the original advice on blenders.

 

> ~P

 

>

 

> > As a fellow Canadian, I can suggest trying an Ebay store. I looked at

 

> > juicers and blenders last year and decided to get a blender. (I was

 

> > convinced after doing some studying at www.rawfoodadvantag e.com) I

 

> > bought the Waring Pro 3Hp+ from an online store, I prefer to blend

 

> > than juice so I get the fiber. Even for wheatgrass, I can blend with

 

> > water and strain it, it is not a perfect method but with the level of

 

> > nutrients you get from wheatgrass, does it really need to be squeezed

 

> > to the nth degree?

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Raw foodists out there may flame me for this, but raw is not ALWAYS better than

cooked. I think it is important to have a combination. Research has shown that

some nutrients are move available when a food (tomatoes for instance) is cooked.

I think variety is key. We shoot for at least nine different fruits and

vegetables a day, some raw, some cooked, and at least one vegetable a leafy

green and at least one fruit a berry. When we don't make this (while traveling

it gets harder), I don't feel as good.

 

Linda

http://triballife.net/ A Marketplace for a Better World

 

 

Paul Falvo <pfalvo

 

Saturday, December 29, 2007 10:41:07 AM

Re: Re: centrifugal juicer - which to buy?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After more research, I confess I am more confused than before I

started.

 

www.rawfoodadvantag e.com claims that a blender is much better than a

 

juicer (and in fact that 3HP is no longer adequate ... 3.5 being the new

 

standard) ... while other websites claim that juicing is far superior to

 

blending because otherwise nutrients are indigestible.

 

 

 

I am left thinking it is essential to eat lots of fruits and vegetables,

 

and that raw is often better than cooked ... but I am frankly baffled as

 

to whether a juicer or blender -- or neither -- is a good idea.

 

 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

Thanks ... especially to Christine for the original advice on blenders.

 

~P

 

 

 

> As a fellow Canadian, I can suggest trying an Ebay store. I looked at

 

> juicers and blenders last year and decided to get a blender. (I was

 

> convinced after doing some studying at www.rawfoodadvantag e.com) I

 

> bought the Waring Pro 3Hp+ from an online store, I prefer to blend

 

> than juice so I get the fiber. Even for wheatgrass, I can blend with

 

> water and strain it, it is not a perfect method but with the level of

 

> nutrients you get from wheatgrass, does it really need to be squeezed

 

> to the nth degree?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I too was baffled by this question. After seeing a demo for a VitaMix, I

stopped juicing with my Champion juicer and started blending carrots in my

VitaMix. A rep from VitaMix said that Adam and Eve did not have a juicer in the

Garden of Eden, but ate the " whole " food. I must admit, the taste of juiced

carrots was much better than the cost of blended.

 

However, one day, I discovered a convincing argument for juicing that made me

stop blending and here it is:

 

When blending carrots in the VitaMix and I believe thus in any other blender,

you have to put water in the blender to create something that is drinkable.

This is a problem because water dilutes digestive juices that help break down

foods so we can absorb nutrients. This is also why we should not eat and drink

during the same meal. I figured since I am on a vegan diet with a lot of raw

foods, I will get enough fiber.

 

Another advantage in juicing is that the nutrients get to the blood cells

quicker because the body doesn't have to deal with the fiber. This is

especially important when juicing for healing.

 

I would like to know what others think about this argument.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

To me the best is Twin Health, BTW the reason they may say the

processor might be better is because you would eat/drink the whole of

the fruit and get the fiber from the fruit, whereas a juicer makes

almost the juice bereft of fiber.

just my 2 cents worth

 

BTW I think we are best to keep our diet as simple as possible, as God

made it originally provided, the best juicer is your teeth

[Guest guest]

I think juice is really good when there is a serious

health problem to be addressed, but otherwise you can

find yourself consuming an awful lot of calories and

no fibre which is surely not a good thing. The raw

people I know have found after trying different things

that smoothies is about as processed as they like it.

Mostly they just eat the food as is or chopped up

together. One of them bought a dehydrator recently

and she sold it after a week or two. These people look

healthy. I have met some other raw people who eat a

lot of dehydrated food, etc and they do not look

healthy at all. As for which juicer to buy, I helped

my mother to buy one a couple of years ago and we

found the best value for money juicer was the Oscar

Vital Max. We are in Australia so it might have a

different name in the US and prices are probably

different too. Anyway I felt pretty bad putting my

organic produce through it and chucking out what felt

like a large part of the goodness in the pulp. It's

great for making frozen fruit sorbets though, it

doesn't take anything out for that, it uses a

different attachment! I wouldn't buy it just for that

though. Good luck with it.

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In a message dated 12/30/2007 2:09:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

admartin5 writes:

 

Another advantage in juicing is that the nutrients get to the blood cells

quicker because the body doesn't have to deal with the fiber. This is

especially important when juicing for healing.

 

I would like to know what others think about this argument.

 

 

 

 

This is exactly what Rev. Malkmus from Hallelujah Acres said when asked this

question. The Vita-Mix rep was right--no juicer in the garden. But there was

no blender, either! The nutrients DO get to the system more efficiently if

the fibers are broken down before ingesting the juice. That's why a

masticating juicer is better, and why juice is an even more efficient way of

obtaining

nutrients than eating the whole fruit is. Freshly made and strained carrot

juice is the most healing thing you can put in your body. BTW--straining the

juice is also important, so the body does not have to waste energy coping with

the bits of fruits or veggies. The sicker you are, the more important this

becomes. Marilyn

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Naomi I agree with everything you said, you sound a well balanced

person, BTW we and my wife use whats left over and make patties and

mix into waffles, the left over of the juiceing

[Guest guest]

Would anyone be willing to share recipes for vegan patties made from carrot

pulp? I called Champion Juicer to see if they could suggest some, but they had

none!