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March 8, 2008

Your name:Tammy Weyenberg

E-mail address:beancitygirl

Area you live in:Wisconsin

Age(s) of child(ren):23

How long your child/family has been vegan/vegetarian:1 1/2 years

Issues you'd like to discuss with other parents:WHat to make for holiday's

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March 9, 2008

Hi Tammy and welcome. Are you looking for holiday meal ideas? Passover?

Easter? Vernal Equinox?

Tammy <beancitygirl wrote: Your name:Tammy Weyenberg

E-mail address:beancitygirl

Area you live in:Wisconsin

Age(s) of child(ren):23

How long your child/family has been vegan/vegetarian:1 1/2 years

Issues you'd like to discuss with other parents:WHat to make for holiday's

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March 14, 2008

Hi, I am looking for Easter dinner ideas and easter candies that I

can put in her basket(even if she is 23)

Thanks so much

Tammy

> Hi Tammy and welcome. Are you looking for holiday meal ideas?

Passover? Easter? Vernal Equinox?

>

> Tammy <beancitygirl wrote: Your name:Tammy Weyenberg

> E-mail address:beancitygirl

> Area you live in:Wisconsin

> Age(s) of child(ren):23

> How long your child/family has been vegan/vegetarian:1 1/2 years

> Issues you'd like to discuss with other parents:WHat to make for

holiday's

>

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

March 14, 2008

here's a list of vegan easter candy from peta:

http://www.peta.org/feat/easter/baskets.html

i don't have any ideas for an easter dinner; i'm still trying to figure one

out for the equinox myself.

chandelle

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 8:18 PM, beancitygirl <beancitygirl

wrote:

> Hi, I am looking for Easter dinner ideas and easter candies that I

> can put in her basket(even if she is 23)

>

> Thanks so much

>

> Tammy

> > Hi Tammy and welcome. Are you looking for holiday meal ideas?

> Passover? Easter? Vernal Equinox?

> >

> > Tammy <beancitygirl wrote: Your name:Tammy Weyenberg

> > E-mail address:beancitygirl

> > Area you live in:Wisconsin

> > Age(s) of child(ren):23

> > How long your child/family has been vegan/vegetarian:1 1/2 years

> > Issues you'd like to discuss with other parents:WHat to make for

> holiday's

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

March 14, 2008

There are vegan chocolates available, you can sometimes find some locally -

Green & Black has some, as do others - you can find at health food stores.

The Coco-Viva are also - but they feel expensive to me for what you get.

Lintz (I think that's how you spell it) has a couple that are vegan as well

(they don't say but generally dark chocolate tends to be vegan).

At Whole Foods they also sometimes have vegan jelly beans but I've not

looked this year - we decided to get our son this crazy hand chair thing

instead at the kids consignment sale. We don't tend to do a lot of candy -

and go for more toys/books/etc. So maybe get her jewelry or a watch or

something similar she might like - books or even a gift card and stuffed

animal card holder. That's all I can think of.

We're actually this year going to have all the things together to make soul

cake ducks (we're big Terry Pratchett fans, and instead of the Easter Bunny

they have The Soul Cake Duck in the books. It's loosely based on Soul Cake

day -which is more traditionally at Hallowe'en/Samhain/All Soul's Day but

we're adopting it for our Easter stuff - since we're wacky). I'm just going

to veganize a recipe I found for Soul Cakes (if I can decide on which one to

use).

As for a meal...well...I think I'm going to just do something like we used

to do - but make it vegan-ized. In my family, our tradition was Easter day

we'd have sausages with horseradish (white and red), and we'd have a braided

raisin bread my grandma made, and a Poppy seed roll. There were also hard

boiled eggs, and some that were pickled in pickled redbeet juice. Which I

may try doing some shapes cut from tofu for that. Could be fun. Of course

redbeets were there, too. I have some tiny ones in my fridge right now, and

I should go pickling the tofu if I'm to have it ready for Easter. I think

maybe we also had pierogi. We have to celebrate with my In-Laws as usual,

especially this year, since my spouse's birthday is the day after, this

year, they do other things for their tradition, and for most of the sides

they seem to forget our son has a milk protien allergy and they cook and

cover everything else in BUTTER, which irks me since it presented when he

was 10-11 months old. I'd just think they'd figure it out by now.

Sorry for the mini-vent, but I hope otherwise this gave you some ideas.

Missie

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:18 PM, beancitygirl <beancitygirl

wrote:

> Hi, I am looking for Easter dinner ideas and easter candies that I

> can put in her basket(even if she is 23)

>

> Thanks so much

>

> Tammy

>

> > Hi Tammy and welcome. Are you looking for holiday meal ideas?

> Passover? Easter? Vernal Equinox?

> >

> > Tammy <beancitygirl wrote: Your name:Tammy Weyenberg

> > E-mail address:beancitygirl

> > Area you live in:Wisconsin

> > Age(s) of child(ren):23

> > How long your child/family has been vegan/vegetarian:1 1/2 years

> > Issues you'd like to discuss with other parents:WHat to make for

> holiday's

> >

> > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

> >

March 14, 2008

PETA has a list of Vegan candy, if you don't mind the mass-produced kinds It

helped my mom shop for me (20's) and my daughter (21 months).

As for the dinner, I am making a veggie pot pie. I found a faux " ham " through

mail order, but you had to purchase $75+ and the ham was only $8

Happy Holiday!

Cassie

beancitygirl <beancitygirl wrote: Hi, I

am looking for Easter dinner ideas and easter candies that I

can put in her basket(even if she is 23)

Thanks so much

Tammy

> Hi Tammy and welcome. Are you looking for holiday meal ideas?

Passover? Easter? Vernal Equinox?

>

> Tammy <beancitygirl wrote: Your name:Tammy Weyenberg

> E-mail address:beancitygirl

> Area you live in:Wisconsin

> Age(s) of child(ren):23

> How long your child/family has been vegan/vegetarian:1 1/2 years

> Issues you'd like to discuss with other parents:WHat to make for

holiday's

>

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

March 20, 2008

I'm very disappointed with this list. It's loaded with white sugar and

artificial flavors and colors. I think there are some better vegan candy

options.

Laura

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March 20, 2008

well, one option would be to not use candy at all, which is what we

do...there's no rule that says that you MUST have candy on these holidays.

but some people really want to make their holidays as close to " regular "

ones as possible, which is why i suggested the peta list for candy.

everybody has their own choices and standards and just because other people

have different standards than you doesn't require your disappointment. just

do what's right for you - avoiding white sugar and flavoring and colors,

just as we do, just as plenty of people here do, if you wish - and leave

everyone else to their own choices. eh?

chandelle

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:51 AM, <VAP79 wrote:

> I'm very disappointed with this list. It's loaded with white sugar and

> artificial flavors and colors. I think there are some better vegan candy

> options.

> Laura

>

> **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL

> Home.

> (

>

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> )

>

March 20, 2008

Oh, just a FYI -

The PETA list (esp. the Accidentally Vegan one, that I'm guessing this list

is part of/from) is also notorious for having products with traces of animal

ingredients (or includes honey), or derivitives. They're not all always

completely vegan, so if you do go that route, be sure to read the

ingredients anyway. Just wanted to point it out as my son has a dairy

allergy and I referred to that list to get him something like granola bars

or something and they still had something made from milk in it, so I

couldn't get it.I think the list is more bordering on the 'accidentally

vegetarian' as I've seen egg and milk derivatives in many things on their

lists

It's a good place to start if you're looking for 'normal' or traditional

things, or in cases where grandparents just want to get them something

'normal'. We tend to focus more on books/toys and doing things together as a

family. We made cookies this year, and we picked up some dark chocolate

bars, and hey, a handful of terrible for you jelly beans (but it's a holiday

and a few aren't going to be so terrible), we also have a TON of Yummy Earth

Lollipops. But it's nothing all that big, because it's not really an

important holiday for our family, though I do more of the spring celebration

thing.

Of course, my husband and son waver from vegan to ovo-vegetarian...so they

will probably go have their eggs. I won't, as I never liked them anyway. I'm

experimenting on my own with some red-beet pickled tofu -based on the eggs

my grandma makes for Easter. They're pretty, so far, and they seem to take

the dye well. Hee

Missie

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:37 AM, chandelle' <earthmother213

wrote:

> well, one option would be to not use candy at all, which is what we

> do...there's no rule that says that you MUST have candy on these holidays.

> but some people really want to make their holidays as close to " regular "

> ones as possible, which is why i suggested the peta list for candy.

> everybody has their own choices and standards and just because other

> people

> have different standards than you doesn't require your disappointment.

> just

> do what's right for you - avoiding white sugar and flavoring and colors,

> just as we do, just as plenty of people here do, if you wish - and leave

> everyone else to their own choices. eh?

>

> chandelle

>

> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:51 AM, <VAP79 <VAP79%40aol.com>> wrote:

>

> > I'm very disappointed with this list. It's loaded with white sugar and

> > artificial flavors and colors. I think there are some better vegan candy

> > options.

> > Laura

> >

> > **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on

> AOL

> > Home.

> > (

> >

>

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> > )

> >

March 20, 2008

i'm not quite sure where you're getting your information, but the peta/peta2

food lists are updated pretty regularly not to mention the fact that they

have the disclaimer stating that there may be hidden animal-derivatives.

*taken directly from the website:*

> *Items listed may contain trace amounts of animal-derived ingredients.

> While PETA supports a strict adherence to veganism, we put the task of

> vigorously reducing animal suffering ahead of personal purity. Boycotting

> products that are 99.9 percent vegan sends the message to manufacturers

> that there is no market for this food, which ends up hurting more animals.

> For a more detailed explanation of PETA's position, please visit

> http://www.caringconsumer.com/labels.html.

i tend to read food labels as a force of habit, but i can't think of

anything that i've seen on the accidentally vegan list that i've found not

to be so after the fact.

if you have access to a Wegman's in your area - on the store brand items,

they've icons indicating lactose-free, kosher, low-fat, and vegan (there may

be more, but i can't remember them all at the moment).

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Missie Ward <mszzzi wrote:

> Oh, just a FYI -

> The PETA list (esp. the Accidentally Vegan one, that I'm guessing this

> list

> is part of/from) is also notorious for having products with traces of

> animal

> ingredients (or includes honey), or derivitives. They're not all always

> completely vegan, so if you do go that route, be sure to read the

> ingredients anyway. Just wanted to point it out as my son has a dairy

> allergy and I referred to that list to get him something like granola bars

> or something and they still had something made from milk in it, so I

> couldn't get it.I think the list is more bordering on the 'accidentally

> vegetarian' as I've seen egg and milk derivatives in many things on their

> lists

>

> It's a good place to start if you're looking for 'normal' or traditional

> things, or in cases where grandparents just want to get them something

> 'normal'. We tend to focus more on books/toys and doing things together as

> a

> family. We made cookies this year, and we picked up some dark chocolate

> bars, and hey, a handful of terrible for you jelly beans (but it's a

> holiday

> and a few aren't going to be so terrible), we also have a TON of Yummy

> Earth

> Lollipops. But it's nothing all that big, because it's not really an

> important holiday for our family, though I do more of the spring

> celebration

> thing.

>

> Of course, my husband and son waver from vegan to ovo-vegetarian...so they

> will probably go have their eggs. I won't, as I never liked them anyway.

> I'm

> experimenting on my own with some red-beet pickled tofu -based on the eggs

> my grandma makes for Easter. They're pretty, so far, and they seem to take

> the dye well. Hee

>

> Missie

>

March 21, 2008

I got it from looking at the label and also refering to the PETA list.

http://www.peta.org/accidentallyVegan/VeganShoppingQS-breakfast.asp?Category=Bre\

akfast%20(Dry)

Quaker Chewy Chocolate Chip Granola Bar

In my experience, this product, specifically, had indeed contained milk. My

son has a milk protien allergy, and even derivatives from milk tend to cause

him to have reactions.I don't recall exactly the form (though I think it was

just listed in the ingredients).

I just remember being excited because we could pick them up and then being

disappointed that they indeed had milk in them (I believe it was also listed

in the allergy alert info that some companies actually put on their items

under the ingredients list).

I've also heard it from other vegans as well, at least anecdotally. I didn't

follow up on what they said, as I had similar experiences.

It may not be everywhere, as I know different regions have slightly

different ingredients or may be test markets for changes in item ingredients

and so on, but in this area, they are not vegan and it contains some form of

milk. It was a while ago. I've also emailed them about a few store brand

things I've found that were also vegan, but I've yet to see them listed

there (that was probably 4 months ago). I also did email them regarding that

product, and it's still listed, so it may be a regional thing. I did get an

email from them thanking me for my input or something to that effect, and

they'd look into it (for the vegan items I did find at my local stores), but

nothing in regard to the item in particular. That is the only one I know of

first hand, though there may be others.

Again, I think the list is a really good reference, at least to start out,

but again, I also stress the reading the labels to be sure. I guess I'm more

vigilant and picky - at least since we have to deal with the milk and milk

derivatives because of the milk protein allergy we have to deal with.

I wish we had a Wegman's - I've heard really good things about their store

brands! I think Publix also has store brands that are also vegan - my mom

took us there last time we visited her, and I was amazed at their

selections! Sadly, neither of them are in our area, though. Thanks!

Missie

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Reni <renireligion wrote:

> i'm not quite sure where you're getting your information, but the

> peta/peta2

> food lists are updated pretty regularly not to mention the fact that they

> have the disclaimer stating that there may be hidden animal-derivatives.

>

> *taken directly from the website:*

>

> > *Items listed may contain trace amounts of animal-derived ingredients.

> > While PETA supports a strict adherence to veganism, we put the task of

> > vigorously reducing animal suffering ahead of personal purity.

> Boycotting

> > products that are 99.9 percent vegan sends the message to manufacturers

> > that there is no market for this food, which ends up hurting more

> animals.

> > For a more detailed explanation of PETA's position, please visit

> > http://www.caringconsumer.com/labels.html.

>

> i tend to read food labels as a force of habit, but i can't think of

> anything that i've seen on the accidentally vegan list that i've found not

> to be so after the fact.

>

> if you have access to a Wegman's in your area - on the store brand items,

> they've icons indicating lactose-free, kosher, low-fat, and vegan (there

> may

> be more, but i can't remember them all at the moment).

>

> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Missie Ward

<mszzzi<mszzzi%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > Oh, just a FYI -

> > The PETA list (esp. the Accidentally Vegan one, that I'm guessing this

> > list

> > is part of/from) is also notorious for having products with traces of

> > animal

> > ingredients (or includes honey), or derivitives. They're not all always

> > completely vegan, so if you do go that route, be sure to read the

> > ingredients anyway. Just wanted to point it out as my son has a dairy

> > allergy and I referred to that list to get him something like granola

> bars

> > or something and they still had something made from milk in it, so I

> > couldn't get it.I think the list is more bordering on the 'accidentally

> > vegetarian' as I've seen egg and milk derivatives in many things on

> their

> > lists

> >

> > It's a good place to start if you're looking for 'normal' or traditional

> > things, or in cases where grandparents just want to get them something

> > 'normal'. We tend to focus more on books/toys and doing things together

> as

> > a

> > family. We made cookies this year, and we picked up some dark chocolate

> > bars, and hey, a handful of terrible for you jelly beans (but it's a

> > holiday

> > and a few aren't going to be so terrible), we also have a TON of Yummy

> > Earth

> > Lollipops. But it's nothing all that big, because it's not really an

> > important holiday for our family, though I do more of the spring

> > celebration

> > thing.

> >

> > Of course, my husband and son waver from vegan to ovo-vegetarian...so

> they

> > will probably go have their eggs. I won't, as I never liked them anyway.

> > I'm

> > experimenting on my own with some red-beet pickled tofu -based on the

> eggs

> > my grandma makes for Easter. They're pretty, so far, and they seem to

> take

> > the dye well. Hee

> >

> > Missie

> >

>

March 21, 2008

i actually had to take a minute and look it up. i didn't remember that

chocolate chip was listed as vegan - in my head i thought the raisin ones

were (and i really really wish the s'mores ones were).

i've noticed that there are lots of store-brand items are vegan, but i've

only noticed them labeled as such at Wegman's. you'd think more stores would

invest in labeling considering how many people are either vegan/vegetarian

or have food allergies...

Wegman's is great. i'm one who does a lot of fresh produce and it's nice to

be able to get really good quality food year-round (although i spend far

more on off-season items, but that's to be expected). it balances out

because for a good half of the year (give or take), i've got an assortment

of farmer's markets where i buy fresh fruits and vegetables for practically

nothing.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Missie Ward <mszzzi wrote:

> I got it from looking at the label and also refering to the PETA list.

>

http://www.peta.org/accidentallyVegan/VeganShoppingQS-breakfast.asp?Category=Bre\

akfast%20

> (Dry)

> Quaker Chewy Chocolate Chip Granola Bar

> In my experience, this product, specifically, had indeed contained milk.

> My

> son has a milk protien allergy, and even derivatives from milk tend to

> cause

> him to have reactions.I don't recall exactly the form (though I think it

> was

> just listed in the ingredients).

>

> I just remember being excited because we could pick them up and then being

> disappointed that they indeed had milk in them (I believe it was also

> listed

> in the allergy alert info that some companies actually put on their items

> under the ingredients list).

> I've also heard it from other vegans as well, at least anecdotally. I

> didn't

> follow up on what they said, as I had similar experiences.

>

> It may not be everywhere, as I know different regions have slightly

> different ingredients or may be test markets for changes in item

> ingredients

> and so on, but in this area, they are not vegan and it contains some form

> of

> milk. It was a while ago. I've also emailed them about a few store brand

> things I've found that were also vegan, but I've yet to see them listed

> there (that was probably 4 months ago). I also did email them regarding

> that

> product, and it's still listed, so it may be a regional thing. I did get

> an

> email from them thanking me for my input or something to that effect, and

> they'd look into it (for the vegan items I did find at my local stores),

> but

> nothing in regard to the item in particular. That is the only one I know

> of

> first hand, though there may be others.

>

> Again, I think the list is a really good reference, at least to start out,

> but again, I also stress the reading the labels to be sure. I guess I'm

> more

> vigilant and picky - at least since we have to deal with the milk and milk

> derivatives because of the milk protein allergy we have to deal with.

>

> I wish we had a Wegman's - I've heard really good things about their store

> brands! I think Publix also has store brands that are also vegan - my mom

> took us there last time we visited her, and I was amazed at their

> selections! Sadly, neither of them are in our area, though. Thanks!

>

> Missie

>

March 21, 2008

A bit of preaching - we only buy fairly traded chocolate; most chocolate and

coffee beans are still picked by slave labor (the right of people are what

matter in my family). www.globalexchange.org is a great resource on this issue.

Missie Ward <mszzzi wrote: There are vegan chocolates

available, you can sometimes find some locally -