Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hello all! In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to Know " , written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY Times " Death by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I submitted the following to http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will stop using her as a nutrition source. Take care, Danita " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included only one true superfood and that is nuts. Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, broccoli, tomatoes, citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow included grass-fed beef. Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic diseases are exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in quality of grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as a " superfood " . In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed beef does not make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other much healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are readily available. The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as Ms. Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high intake of saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. Given that Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, it is extremely premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small quantities and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats that the " superfoods " aspect is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. Without such caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for Parade readers of this article. Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food pyramid, which means " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a " superfood " . In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine should not publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her extreme bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a " superfood " . Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the leading American expert on farmers' markets and local food. " While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or experience in the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she repeatedly makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece published May 2007 http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to write your nutrition articles in the future. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 grrr...i cannot stand that woman. i had to endure having that ridiculous NY times article sent to me by no fewer than 11 people last year. luckily, most of them came with the comment, " what this woman says can't be true, right? ...because your kids have been vegan since birth and they're the healthiest children i know! " so not all omnivores are complete idiots, ready to fall all over themselves over anybody who encourages them to eat meat. that WAPF...will we ever escape their quackery? it seems like every single person i meet these days is encouraging me to read that horrible book and spreading the disease that is animal-based dieting. great letter, by the way! chandelle On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:13 PM, <danitamark wrote: > Hello all! > > In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to Know " , > written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY Times > " Death > by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I submitted > > the following to > > http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do > > and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will stop > using her as a nutrition source. > > Take care, > Danita > > " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read > > Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included only > one true superfood and that is nuts. > > Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, broccoli, > tomatoes, > citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow > included grass-fed beef. > > Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic diseases are > exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in quality of > grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as a " superfood " . > > In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed beef > does not > make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other much > healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are readily > available. > > The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as Ms. > Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high intake of > saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. Given that > Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, it is extremely > premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . > > Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small quantities > and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats that the > " superfoods " aspect > is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. > Without such > caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for Parade > readers of > this article. > > Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food pyramid, > which means > " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a > " superfood " . > > In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine > should not > publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition > quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her extreme > bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a " superfood " . > > Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as > > " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the leading > American > expert on farmers' markets and local food. " > > While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or > experience in > the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she > repeatedly > makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. > > Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece published May > 2007 > > http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm > > reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. > > Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to write > your nutrition articles in the future. > > Thank you. > > > -- " religion is not based on evidence. if it were, it would be called science, and no one would believe in it. " ~stephen colbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Great letter! Liz " danitamark " <danitamark " " ; " VeganParenting " <VeganParenting > Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:13:54 PM Today's Parade Magazine Hello all! In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to Know " , written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY Times " Death by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I submitted the following to http://www.parade. com/opencms/ contactUs. do and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will stop using her as a nutrition source. Take care, Danita " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included only one true superfood and that is nuts. Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, broccoli, tomatoes, citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow included grass-fed beef. Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic diseases are exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in quality of grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as a " superfood " . In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed beef does not make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other much healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are readily available. The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as Ms. Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high intake of saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. Given that Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, it is extremely premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small quantities and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats that the " superfoods " aspect is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. Without such caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for Parade readers of this article. Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food pyramid, which means " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a " superfood " . In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine should not publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her extreme bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a " superfood " . Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the leading American expert on farmers' markets and local food. " While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or experience in the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she repeatedly makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece published May 2007 http://www.drmcdoug all.com/response _to_ny_times. htm reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to write your nutrition articles in the future. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hi Chandelle, I know what you mean -- I'm on another list, based on natural family living, and it's left and right Weston Price Foundation this, grass-fed beef that. For a " natural living " group, it's at least 2/3 Weston Price adherents - all of whom will lose their minds at a vegetarian conversation. (though, have to say, we still have vegetarian conversations.) It's one of the reasons I started joining vegetarian groups - to hear/see info that applies to us. The natural living group provides vital info in other areas of our lives - herbs, homeopathy, " progressive " parenting books, and local info - but anything with a subject line of " Weston Price blah, blah, blah " goes right in the crapper here. :-) Have a great day, Lorraine On Behalf Of chandelle' Monday, March 31, 2008 7:42 AM Re: Today's Parade Magazine grrr...i cannot stand that woman. i had to endure having that ridiculous NY times article sent to me by no fewer than 11 people last year. luckily, most of them came with the comment, " what this woman says can't be true, right? ...because your kids have been vegan since birth and they're the healthiest children i know! " so not all omnivores are complete idiots, ready to fall all over themselves over anybody who encourages them to eat meat. that WAPF...will we ever escape their quackery? it seems like every single person i meet these days is encouraging me to read that horrible book and spreading the disease that is animal-based dieting. great letter, by the way! chandelle On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:13 PM, <danitamark@earthlin <danitamark%40earthlink.net> k.net> wrote: > Hello all! > > In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to Know " , > written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY Times > " Death > by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I submitted > > the following to > > http://www.parade. <http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do> com/opencms/contactUs.do > > and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will stop > using her as a nutrition source. > > Take care, > Danita > > " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read > > Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included only > one true superfood and that is nuts. > > Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, broccoli, > tomatoes, > citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow > included grass-fed beef. > > Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic diseases are > exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in quality of > grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as a " superfood " . > > In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed beef > does not > make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other much > healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are readily > available. > > The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as Ms. > Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high intake of > saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. Given that > Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, it is extremely > premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . > > Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small quantities > and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats that the > " superfoods " aspect > is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. > Without such > caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for Parade > readers of > this article. > > Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food pyramid, > which means > " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a > " superfood " . > > In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine > should not > publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition > quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her extreme > bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a " superfood " . > > Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as > > " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the leading > American > expert on farmers' markets and local food. " > > While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or > experience in > the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she > repeatedly > makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. > > Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece published May > 2007 > > http://www.drmcdoug <http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm> all.com/response_to_ny_times.htm > > reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. > > Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to write > your nutrition articles in the future. > > Thank you. > > > -- " religion is not based on evidence. if it were, it would be called science, and no one would believe in it. " ~stephen colbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Thanks for taking the time to do that, Danita -- I think activism like that can really help open people's eyes. Heather danitamark wrote: > > Hello all! > > In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to Know " , > written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY > Times " Death > by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I > submitted > the following to > > http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do > <http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do> > > and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will > stop using her as a nutrition source. > > Take care, > Danita > > " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read > > Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included > only one true superfood and that is nuts. > > Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, broccoli, > tomatoes, > citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow > included grass-fed beef. > > Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic diseases > are exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in > quality of grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as > a " superfood " . > > In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed beef > does not > make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other > much healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are > readily available. > > The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as Ms. > Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high > intake of saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. > Given that Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, > it is extremely premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . > > Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small > quantities and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats > that the " superfoods " aspect > is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. > Without such > caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for Parade > readers of > this article. > > Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food pyramid, > which means > " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a > " superfood " . > > In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine > should not > publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition > quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her > extreme bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a > " superfood " . > > Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as > > " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the > leading American > expert on farmers' markets and local food. " > > While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or > experience in > the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she > repeatedly > makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. > > Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece published > May 2007 > > http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm > <http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm> > > reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. > > Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to > write your nutrition articles in the future. > > Thank you. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Thank you for posting this - either me or my husband typically read Parade and this weekend we both missed this. I wrote the editor last night. Susan , danitamark wrote: > > Hello all! > > In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to Know " , > written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY Times " Death > by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I submitted > the following to > > http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do > > and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will stop using her as a nutrition source. > > Take care, > Danita > > > > > " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read > > > > Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included only one true superfood and that is nuts. > > Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, broccoli, tomatoes, > citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow included grass-fed beef. > > Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic diseases are exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in quality of grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as a " superfood " . > > In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed beef does not > make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other much healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are readily available. > > The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as Ms. Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high intake of saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. Given that Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, it is extremely premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . > > Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small quantities and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats that the " superfoods " aspect > is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. Without such > caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for Parade readers of > this article. > > Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food pyramid, which means > " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a " superfood " . > > In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine should not > publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her extreme bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a " superfood " . > > Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as > > " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the leading American > expert on farmers' markets and local food. " > > While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or experience in > the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she repeatedly > makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. > > Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece published May 2007 > > http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm > > reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. > > Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to write your nutrition articles in the future. > > Thank you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 well, i'm glad i'm not the only one! i'm on a natural family living group as well, a local one, and almost everyone there is a WAP/NT proponent. i thought it might just be a utah thing. i can't seem to escape it. i get so tired of being asked to defend my diet against it. what i've found is that rarely does a SAD-eater bother me about it anymore; they know better now, and they almost universally say something along the lines of, " i wish i could do that. " it's the WAPFers now who come at me with the ridiculous questions like " what about cholesterol? it's essential you know, " or " where do you get your HIGH-QUALITY protein? " or " well i eat like my ancestors ate, none of these NEWFANGLED diets. " gag. chandelle On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Lorraine <ldemi wrote: > Hi Chandelle, > I know what you mean -- I'm on another list, based on natural family > living, and it's left and right Weston Price Foundation this, grass-fed > beef that. For a " natural living " group, it's at least 2/3 Weston Price > adherents - all of whom will lose their minds at a vegetarian > conversation. (though, have to say, we still have vegetarian > conversations.) It's one of the reasons I started joining vegetarian > groups - to hear/see info that applies to us. The natural living group > provides vital info in other areas of our lives - herbs, homeopathy, > " progressive " parenting books, and local info - but anything with a > subject line of " Weston Price blah, blah, blah " goes right in the > crapper here. :-) > Have a great day, > Lorraine > > > > <%40> [ > <%40>] On > Behalf Of chandelle' > Monday, March 31, 2008 7:42 AM > <%40> > Re: Today's Parade Magazine > > grrr...i cannot stand that woman. i had to endure having that ridiculous > NY > times article sent to me by no fewer than 11 people last year. luckily, > most of them came with the comment, " what this woman says can't be true, > right? ...because your kids have been vegan since birth and they're the > healthiest children i know! " so not all omnivores are complete idiots, > ready to fall all over themselves over anybody who encourages them to > eat > meat. that WAPF...will we ever escape their quackery? it seems like > every > single person i meet these days is encouraging me to read that horrible > book > and spreading the disease that is animal-based dieting. > > great letter, by the way! > > chandelle > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:13 PM, <danitamark@earthlin > <danitamark%40earthlink.net> k.net> wrote: > > > Hello all! > > > > In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to Know " , > > written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY > Times > > " Death > > by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I > submitted > > > > the following to > > > > http://www.parade. <http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do> > > com/opencms/contactUs.do > > > > and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will > stop > > using her as a nutrition source. > > > > Take care, > > Danita > > > > " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read > > > > Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included > only > > one true superfood and that is nuts. > > > > Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, broccoli, > > tomatoes, > > citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow > > included grass-fed beef. > > > > Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic diseases > are > > exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in > quality of > > grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as a > " superfood " . > > > > In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed beef > > does not > > make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other > much > > healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are readily > > available. > > > > The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as Ms. > > Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high > intake of > > saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. Given that > > Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, it is > extremely > > premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . > > > > Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small > quantities > > and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats that the > > " superfoods " aspect > > is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. > > Without such > > caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for Parade > > readers of > > this article. > > > > Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food pyramid, > > which means > > " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a > > " superfood " . > > > > In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine > > should not > > publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition > > quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her > extreme > > bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a " superfood " . > > > > Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as > > > > " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the > leading > > American > > expert on farmers' markets and local food. " > > > > While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or > > experience in > > the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she > > repeatedly > > makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. > > > > Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece published > May > > 2007 > > > > http://www.drmcdoug > <http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm> > all.com/response_to_ny_times.htm > > > > reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. > > > > Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to > write > > your nutrition articles in the future. > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > -- > " religion is not based on evidence. if it were, it would be called > science, > and no one would believe in it. " > > ~stephen colbert > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 You are not the only one:) I am in FL and also in some natural family groups. So many WAPF people, and only mine and one other family is vegan. There are a few vegetarians in the group, but they drink RAW milk (another WAPF thing) so it's okay and they are still getting their HIGH QUALITY protein. What shocked me the most was when the other vegan mommy shared the mercola.com site with me - I asked her if she knew he was funded by WAPF and she didn't know. They sneak in everywhere. She was telling people to use the formula recipe on that website because it was better than anything you can buy in the stores. I looked up the recipe and one was beef liver and raw eggs with olive oil - how can that be good for a baby. So we discussed it a bit, and I don't know if she just stopped listening to me or if I really opened her eyes. What is really odd about this situation is she is about 80% raw food/vegan. Just kills me that people don't research what they read on the Internet and just take it as valid scientific research and so much of it is just bad opinion. I had to ask at our last get together (with the natural mommy group) that we not discuss WAPF, religion, or politics. Too many of us are on very opposite ends of the spectrum to have something divide us when we need the support on extended BFing, co-sleeping, CD, etc... Susan On 4/1/08, chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: > > well, i'm glad i'm not the only one! i'm on a natural family living > group > as well, a local one, and almost everyone there is a WAP/NT proponent. i > thought it might just be a utah thing. i can't seem to escape it. i get so > tired of being asked to defend my diet against it. what i've found is that > rarely does a SAD-eater bother me about it anymore; they know better now, > and they almost universally say something along the lines of, " i wish i > could do that. " it's the WAPFers now who come at me with the ridiculous > questions like " what about cholesterol? it's essential you know, " or > " where > do you get your HIGH-QUALITY protein? " or " well i eat like my ancestors > ate, > none of these NEWFANGLED diets. " gag. > > chandelle > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Lorraine <ldemi<ldemi%40ucsd.edu>> > wrote: > > > Hi Chandelle, > > I know what you mean -- I'm on another list, based on natural family > > living, and it's left and right Weston Price Foundation this, grass-fed > > beef that. For a " natural living " group, it's at least 2/3 Weston Price > > adherents - all of whom will lose their minds at a vegetarian > > conversation. (though, have to say, we still have vegetarian > > conversations.) It's one of the reasons I started joining vegetarian > > groups - to hear/see info that applies to us. The natural living group > > provides vital info in other areas of our lives - herbs, homeopathy, > > " progressive " parenting books, and local info - but anything with a > > subject line of " Weston Price blah, blah, blah " goes right in the > > crapper here. :-) > > Have a great day, > > Lorraine > > > > > > > > <%40><%40> [ > > <%40><%40>] On > > Behalf Of chandelle' > > Monday, March 31, 2008 7:42 AM > > <%40><%40> > > Re: Today's Parade Magazine > > > > grrr...i cannot stand that woman. i had to endure having that ridiculous > > NY > > times article sent to me by no fewer than 11 people last year. luckily, > > most of them came with the comment, " what this woman says can't be true, > > right? ...because your kids have been vegan since birth and they're the > > healthiest children i know! " so not all omnivores are complete idiots, > > ready to fall all over themselves over anybody who encourages them to > > eat > > meat. that WAPF...will we ever escape their quackery? it seems like > > every > > single person i meet these days is encouraging me to read that horrible > > book > > and spreading the disease that is animal-based dieting. > > > > great letter, by the way! > > > > chandelle > > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:13 PM, <danitamark@earthlin > > <danitamark%40earthlink.net> k.net> wrote: > > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to Know " , > > > written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY > > Times > > > " Death > > > by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I > > submitted > > > > > > the following to > > > > > > http://www.parade. <http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do> > > > > com/opencms/contactUs.do > > > > > > and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will > > stop > > > using her as a nutrition source. > > > > > > Take care, > > > Danita > > > > > > " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read > > > > > > Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included > > only > > > one true superfood and that is nuts. > > > > > > Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, broccoli, > > > tomatoes, > > > citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow > > > included grass-fed beef. > > > > > > Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic diseases > > are > > > exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in > > quality of > > > grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as a > > " superfood " . > > > > > > In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed beef > > > does not > > > make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other > > much > > > healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are readily > > > available. > > > > > > The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as Ms. > > > Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high > > intake of > > > saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. Given that > > > Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, it is > > extremely > > > premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . > > > > > > Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small > > quantities > > > and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats that the > > > " superfoods " aspect > > > is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. > > > Without such > > > caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for Parade > > > readers of > > > this article. > > > > > > Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food pyramid, > > > which means > > > " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a > > > " superfood " . > > > > > > In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine > > > should not > > > publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition > > > quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her > > extreme > > > bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a " superfood " . > > > > > > Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as > > > > > > " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the > > leading > > > American > > > expert on farmers' markets and local food. " > > > > > > While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or > > > experience in > > > the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she > > > repeatedly > > > makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. > > > > > > Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece published > > May > > > 2007 > > > > > > http://www.drmcdoug > > <http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm> > > all.com/response_to_ny_times.htm > > > > > > reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. > > > > > > Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to > > write > > > your nutrition articles in the future. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > " religion is not based on evidence. if it were, it would be called > > science, > > and no one would believe in it. " > > > > ~stephen colbert > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 what i don't understand is why WAPF seems to be so popular with natural family groups when they promote formula above breastfeeding. according to them, a woman should only nurse if she has a perfect diet, and their perfect diet seems impossible, not only physically (how can you eat so much food?!) but financially (i.e. a quart of raw milk a day only from local grass-fed cows, several raw eggs a day from local pastured chickens, several different types a meat every day from local grass-fed animals, cod liver oil, and so on - oh yeah, and by the way also some vegetables if you feel like it...). if a woman doesn't eat their perfect diet, they say, it would be better to feed the baby a formula based on liver, raw milk and eggs. whoo boy, can't wait 'til that baby spits up! chandelle On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Susan Williams <virgo.vegan wrote: > You are not the only one:) I am in FL and also in some natural family > groups. So many WAPF people, and only mine and one other family is vegan. > There are a few vegetarians in the group, but they drink RAW milk (another > WAPF thing) so it's okay and they are still getting their HIGH QUALITY > protein. What shocked me the most was when the other vegan mommy shared > the > mercola.com site with me - I asked her if she knew he was funded by WAPF > and > she didn't know. They sneak in everywhere. She was telling people to use > the formula recipe on that website because it was better than anything you > can buy in the stores. I looked up the recipe and one was beef liver and > raw eggs with olive oil - how can that be good for a baby. So we discussed > it a bit, and I don't know if she just stopped listening to me or if I > really opened her eyes. What is really odd about this situation is she is > about 80% raw food/vegan. Just kills me that people don't research what > they read on the Internet and just take it as valid scientific research > and > so much of it is just bad opinion. > > I had to ask at our last get together (with the natural mommy group) that > we > not discuss WAPF, religion, or politics. Too many of us are on very > opposite ends of the spectrum to have something divide us when we need the > support on extended BFing, co-sleeping, CD, etc... > > Susan > > On 4/1/08, chandelle' <earthmother213<earthmother213%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > > well, i'm glad i'm not the only one! i'm on a natural family living > > group > > as well, a local one, and almost everyone there is a WAP/NT proponent. i > > thought it might just be a utah thing. i can't seem to escape it. i get > so > > tired of being asked to defend my diet against it. what i've found is > that > > rarely does a SAD-eater bother me about it anymore; they know better > now, > > and they almost universally say something along the lines of, " i wish i > > could do that. " it's the WAPFers now who come at me with the ridiculous > > questions like " what about cholesterol? it's essential you know, " or > > " where > > do you get your HIGH-QUALITY protein? " or " well i eat like my ancestors > > ate, > > none of these NEWFANGLED diets. " gag. > > > > chandelle > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Lorraine <ldemi<ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > <ldemi%40ucsd.edu>> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Chandelle, > > > I know what you mean -- I'm on another list, based on natural family > > > living, and it's left and right Weston Price Foundation this, > grass-fed > > > beef that. For a " natural living " group, it's at least 2/3 Weston > Price > > > adherents - all of whom will lose their minds at a vegetarian > > > conversation. (though, have to say, we still have vegetarian > > > conversations.) It's one of the reasons I started joining vegetarian > > > groups - to hear/see info that applies to us. The natural living group > > > provides vital info in other areas of our lives - herbs, homeopathy, > > > " progressive " parenting books, and local info - but anything with a > > > subject line of " Weston Price blah, blah, blah " goes right in the > > > crapper here. :-) > > > Have a great day, > > > Lorraine > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40><%40><%40g\ roups.com> [ > > > <%40><%40><%40g\ roups.com>] On > > > Behalf Of chandelle' > > > Monday, March 31, 2008 7:42 AM > > > <%40><%40><%40g\ roups.com> > > > Re: Today's Parade Magazine > > > > > > grrr...i cannot stand that woman. i had to endure having that > ridiculous > > > NY > > > times article sent to me by no fewer than 11 people last year. > luckily, > > > most of them came with the comment, " what this woman says can't be > true, > > > right? ...because your kids have been vegan since birth and they're > the > > > healthiest children i know! " so not all omnivores are complete idiots, > > > ready to fall all over themselves over anybody who encourages them to > > > eat > > > meat. that WAPF...will we ever escape their quackery? it seems like > > > every > > > single person i meet these days is encouraging me to read that > horrible > > > book > > > and spreading the disease that is animal-based dieting. > > > > > > great letter, by the way! > > > > > > chandelle > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:13 PM, <danitamark@earthlin > > > <danitamark%40earthlink.net> k.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello all! > > > > > > > > In response to today's Parade magazine article " 6 Superfoods to > Know " , > > > > written by none other than Nina Planck, (the author of last years NY > > > Times > > > > " Death > > > > by Veganism " opinion piece and also a big fan of Weston Price) I > > > submitted > > > > > > > > the following to > > > > > > > > http://www.parade. <http://www.parade.com/opencms/contactUs.do> > > > > > > com/opencms/contactUs.do > > > > > > > > and I thought you might want to reply to Parade also - so they will > > > stop > > > > using her as a nutrition source. > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > Danita > > > > > > > > " 6 Superfoods to Know " not a super article to read > > > > > > > > Today's Parade magazine article on " 6 Superfoods to Know " included > > > only > > > > one true superfood and that is nuts. > > > > > > > > Nina Planck's article left out blueberries, sweet potatoes, > broccoli, > > > > tomatoes, > > > > citrus, whole grains, legumes, flax, chia, kale, etc... but somehow > > > > included grass-fed beef. > > > > > > > > Overwhelming data shows that American's high rates of chronic > diseases > > > are > > > > exacerbated by high intakes of beef. The marginal improvement in > > > quality of > > > > grass-fed vs grain-fed beef does not warrant listing it as a > > > " superfood " . > > > > > > > > In addition, the limited availability and high price of grass-fed > beef > > > > does not > > > > make it an attractive choice for most American consumers when other > > > much > > > > healthier and cheaper sources of iron, B-vitamins and zinc are > readily > > > > available. > > > > > > > > The jury is still out on the possible benefits of coconut milk- as > Ms. > > > > Planck states herself- and there is plenty of data indicating high > > > intake of > > > > saturated fats, from plants or animals, is not beneficial. Given > that > > > > Americans are overweight and consume too much fat already, it is > > > extremely > > > > premature to feature coconut milk as a " superfood " . > > > > > > > > Cinnamon is a spice that is consumed in such relatively small > > > quantities > > > > and often on high fat, high sugar, refined flour treats that the > > > > " superfoods " aspect > > > > is usually negated by the other characteristics of the food source. > > > > Without such > > > > caveats, eating yet another Cinnabon is the likely outcome for > Parade > > > > readers of > > > > this article. > > > > > > > > Honey, molasses, and olive oil reside at the top of the food > pyramid, > > > > which means > > > > " eat sparingly " , hardly a ringing endorsement or qualification as a > > > > " superfood " . > > > > > > > > In addition to the inferior content of this article, Parade magazine > > > > should not > > > > publish a nutrition article by a writer who promotes the nutrition > > > > quackery of the Weston Price Foundation in her other writings. Her > > > extreme > > > > bias is reflected in her inclusion of grass-fed beef as a > " superfood " . > > > > > > > > Ms. Planck describes herself on her website as > > > > > > > > " ...an advocate for traditional foods, an entrepreneur, and the > > > leading > > > > American > > > > expert on farmers' markets and local food. " > > > > > > > > While long on hyperbole her bio is woefully short on education or > > > > experience in > > > > the field of nutrition or medicine - which probably explains why she > > > > repeatedly > > > > makes nutrition errors in print and on her website. > > > > > > > > Dr. John McDougall's response to her NY Times opinion piece > published > > > May > > > > 2007 > > > > > > > > http://www.drmcdoug > > > <http://www.drmcdougall.com/response_to_ny_times.htm> > > > all.com/response_to_ny_times.htm > > > > > > > > reveals just how misguided Ms. Planck is when it comes to nutrition. > > > > > > > > Please get a registered dietitian or some other qualified person to > > > write > > > > your nutrition articles in the future. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > " religion is not based on evidence. if it were, it would be called > > > science, > > > and no one would believe in it. " > > > > > > ~stephen colbert > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I think because they push organic meat, pesticide free,mercury-free dentistry, etc. They have people who want to eat meat, cheese, etc right in their palms. It is an easy solution for someone who has no desire to give up meat to be healthy. I have even met some natural family people who push Adkins as such a healthy lifestyle - " you know we really are more carnivorous. " Can't remember the last time I felt like pouncing on some animal who crossed my path and tearing out its throat to eat it - isn't that what carnivores do? Anyway... I wasn't aware that they promoted formula over BF - that blows my mind. Knowing that, I don't see how these natural families go this path. I just read this from their site: " Fortunately, asthma may be preventable. Two recent studies in respected scientific journals found a statistically significant inverse relationship between consumption of raw milk and asthma and allergies. " They are preying on people who want to prevent things naturally. What I don't get is now that I have BF my own child is how these natural mommies can see another animals milk as anything that should be consumed by humans. Susan , chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote: > > what i don't understand is why WAPF seems to be so popular with natural > family groups when they promote formula above breastfeeding. according to > them, a woman should only nurse if she has a perfect diet, and their perfect > diet seems impossible, not only physically (how can you eat so much food?!) > but financially (i.e. a quart of raw milk a day only from local grass-fed > cows, several raw eggs a day from local pastured chickens, several different > types a meat every day from local grass-fed animals, cod liver oil, and so > on - oh yeah, and by the way also some vegetables if you feel like it...). > if a woman doesn't eat their perfect diet, they say, it would be better to > feed the baby a formula based on liver, raw milk and eggs. whoo boy, can't > wait 'til that baby spits up! > > chandelle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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