Which Formula to Choose for a Vegetarian?

[Guest guest]

Michael--How about rice milk, or a homemade nut or seed milk instead? Really

it's just to have something white and creamy to put on cereal, when it comes

down to it. Otherwise, a balanced diet and water to drink would be fine,

without any " white stuff " . Your toddler doesn't need a " formula " --just a

healthy

diet (which you already provide), and enough liquid to quench her thirst.

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Hello All,

My name is Michael. My wife Terri and I have a daughter Jessica who turned 1

year old today. I have been a vegetarian for the past 15 years and Terri for

the past 9. We do however, eat some fish, eggs and cheese.

Jessica has been exclusively breast fed her whole life. We are now trying to

decide what is the best formula for her. We will be weening her from the breast

sometime in the next few months as we start to try to give her a brother or

sister. Neither Terri nor I drink cow's milk and our initial plan was to give

Jessica some type of soy formula. However, I have started doing some reading on

some possible problems with soy and am having second thoughts (I read one

critique that likened soy milk formula to giving a baby girl 5 birth control

pills a day). Our pediatrician has suggested cow's milk.

 

If anyone has any suggestions or guidance, we would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks so much in advance.

Best regards,

Michael

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Happy birthday to Jessica! Doesn't time fly.

 

I am raising my son vegan (is just now 13 months), so cows milk is off

limits for him. You really have to research the soy issue and decide what

research you want to believe. Some sides of the soy issue say the

phytoestrogens in soy cannot disrupt a human's system, while other research

says it can. Most of the research that says it can is funded by the cattle

and dairy industry. I read somewhere that flax has more phytoestrogens

than Soy, but strangely you don't hear warnings not to give that to boys, or

children, etc. Makes me really wonder about how accurate the other data is.

 

We decided to give DS Hemp milk during the day while he is at daycare

because hemp is a wonderfully complete protein, has the correct ratio of

Omegas, and is full of good fats. Our ped (which I normally do not listen

to much nutritional advice from drs.) even said this was a great vegan

alternative to cows milk. You can either make it yourself or you can buy it

at most natural food stores.

 

Susan

 

 

On 4/1/08, michael alessi <mwalessi22 wrote:

>

> Hello All,

> My name is Michael. My wife Terri and I have a daughter Jessica who turned

> 1 year old today. I have been a vegetarian for the past 15 years and Terri

> for the past 9. We do however, eat some fish, eggs and cheese.

> Jessica has been exclusively breast fed her whole life. We are now trying

> to decide what is the best formula for her. We will be weening her from the

> breast sometime in the next few months as we start to try to give her a

> brother or sister. Neither Terri nor I drink cow's milk and our initial plan

> was to give Jessica some type of soy formula. However, I have started doing

> some reading on some possible problems with soy and am having second

> thoughts (I read one critique that likened soy milk formula to giving a baby

> girl 5 birth control pills a day). Our pediatrician has suggested cow's

> milk.

>

> If anyone has any suggestions or guidance, we would greatly appreciate it.

>

> Thanks so much in advance.

> Best regards,

> Michael

>

>

>

> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster

> Total Access, No Cost.

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi michael,

 

if your daughter is 1, and is taking in quite a lot of solid food, she

shouldn't need a formula at all. in fact, most formulas are not designed to

be given after the first year. there are " next step " formulas for toddlers,

but i feel that they are a gimmick to keep parents continuing to buy formula

when it's no longer essential.

 

my daughter had an oral-motor dysfunction at birth and could not nurse. i

obtained as much donated breastmilk as i could, but she did have to be on

some formula. i'm lactose-intolerant, as is my son, so we didn't even

bother trying cow's milk formula. despite having some very serious

misgivings, we put our daughter on soy formula and she was on that, in

addition to donated breastmilk, until she turned 1, when we tapered her off

of it over the space of 2-3 weeks and then removed it entirely.

 

my advice to you is to skip formula altogether; don't undo all the wonderful

benefits of exclusively nursing! just make sure she's getting a

well-rounded diet with lots of protein and fat and formula should be

unnecessary.

 

HTH,

chandelle

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Michael,

 

While I am not a medical professional, I do have two friends who (quite

incorrectly) thought that breastfeeding would provide indefinite contraception.

 

My daughter has been drinking fortified soymilk daily since around age two

(when she weaned herself); she is now 12 and is developing normally - most of

her friends have had their first period and she has not.

 

Cow milk is for baby cows...

 

Robin

 

michael alessi <mwalessi22 wrote:

Hello All,

My name is Michael. My wife Terri and I have a daughter Jessica who turned 1

year old today. I have been a vegetarian for the past 15 years and Terri for the

past 9. We do however, eat some fish, eggs and cheese.

Jessica has been exclusively breast fed her whole life. We are now trying to

decide what is the best formula for her. We will be weening her from the breast

sometime in the next few months as we start to try to give her a brother or

sister. Neither Terri nor I drink cow's milk and our initial plan was to give

Jessica some type of soy formula. However, I have started doing some reading on

some possible problems with soy and am having second thoughts (I read one

critique that likened soy milk formula to giving a baby girl 5 birth control

pills a day). Our pediatrician has suggested cow's milk.

 

If anyone has any suggestions or guidance, we would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks so much in advance.

Best regards,

Michael

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I disagree. I think the second year of life a child needs the high-calories and

fat of either formula or breast-milk. It is why doctor's recommend whole cow's

milk after 1 year old & are no longer on formula. I would say second step soy

formula would be the way to go. There are way more hormones in cow's milk than

in soy milk or soy formula (not to mention pus and other things you wouldn't

want going into your baby). Think about everything that is pumped into cows to

make them produce milk for as long as possible after giving birth. Soy formula

is a much better choice for the second year of life. After age 2 (or whenever

your pediatrician tells you that you can move to a lower fat milk) then you can

try an alternative like rice or almond milk (which are both pretty good) in lieu

of soy milks.

Renee

 

chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote:

hi michael,

 

if your daughter is 1, and is taking in quite a lot of solid food, she

shouldn't need a formula at all. in fact, most formulas are not designed to

be given after the first year. there are " next step " formulas for toddlers,

but i feel that they are a gimmick to keep parents continuing to buy formula

when it's no longer essential.

 

my daughter had an oral-motor dysfunction at birth and could not nurse. i

obtained as much donated breastmilk as i could, but she did have to be on

some formula. i'm lactose-intolerant, as is my son, so we didn't even

bother trying cow's milk formula. despite having some very serious

misgivings, we put our daughter on soy formula and she was on that, in

addition to donated breastmilk, until she turned 1, when we tapered her off

of it over the space of 2-3 weeks and then removed it entirely.

 

my advice to you is to skip formula altogether; don't undo all the wonderful

benefits of exclusively nursing! just make sure she's getting a

well-rounded diet with lots of protein and fat and formula should be

unnecessary.

 

HTH,

chandelle

 

 

[Guest guest]

*I think the second year of life a child needs the high-calories and fat of

either formula or breast-milk. It is why doctor's recommend whole cow's milk

after 1 year old & are no longer on formula.*

 

actually, the reason doctors recommend that is because they don't trust

parents to feed their children a wholesome, well-rounded diet with plenty of

calcium, calories and fat from other sources - and sadly, many parents have

time and time again proven them right. (this is the same reason why doctors

schedule vaccinations so closely together - not because it's essential, but

because the CDC doesn't trust parents to stick with the vaccination schedule

if they spread it out.) doctors recommend whole milk to ensure that

children get SOMETHING in their diet that will provide them with necessary

nutrients when so many families regularly feed their kids chips, candy,

soda, and various convenience foods as a major, primary part of their diet.

progressive pediatricians will say that as long as the child is eating a

whole-food diet with conscious intent applied to protein and fat, the child

will be fine without any sort of milk at all, and studies support this.

those of us who have raised our children on a whole-foods, plant-based diet

and are well-versed in nutrition can attest to this fact. i chart our

children's food intake every few months and without any animal products of

any kind in their diet they've always gotten more than enough fat, protein,

calcium and iron in their diet, as well as the rest of the essential

nutrients, without hardly any effort on our part beyond, ya know, feeding

them occasionally.

 

michael, has your wife considered continuing to nurse beyond the first

year? if she is not ovulating regularly enough due to nursing, simply

cutting out night nursings or dropping one or two nursings a day is often

sufficient to bring the cycle in balance. for some women, nursing through a

pregnancy is too painful, but some women do it just fine. if she was

capable of and willing to continue to nurse, that would be the best option.

 

chandelle

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

The World Health Organization recommends breastfeeding for a minimum of two

years.

 

Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote: I disagree. I think the

second year of life a child needs the high-calories and fat of either formula or

breast-milk. It is why doctor's recommend whole cow's milk after 1 year old &

are no longer on formula. I would say second step soy formula would be the way

to go. There are way more hormones in cow's milk than in soy milk or soy formula

(not to mention pus and other things you wouldn't want going into your baby).

Think about everything that is pumped into cows to make them produce milk for as

long as possible after giving birth. Soy formula is a much better choice for the

second year of life. After age 2 (or whenever your pediatrician tells you that

you can move to a lower fat milk) then you can try an alternative like rice or

almond milk (which are both pretty good) in lieu of soy milks.

Renee

 

chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote:

hi michael,

 

if your daughter is 1, and is taking in quite a lot of solid food, she

shouldn't need a formula at all. in fact, most formulas are not designed to

be given after the first year. there are " next step " formulas for toddlers,

but i feel that they are a gimmick to keep parents continuing to buy formula

when it's no longer essential.

 

my daughter had an oral-motor dysfunction at birth and could not nurse. i

obtained as much donated breastmilk as i could, but she did have to be on

some formula. i'm lactose-intolerant, as is my son, so we didn't even

bother trying cow's milk formula. despite having some very serious

misgivings, we put our daughter on soy formula and she was on that, in

addition to donated breastmilk, until she turned 1, when we tapered her off

of it over the space of 2-3 weeks and then removed it entirely.

 

my advice to you is to skip formula altogether; don't undo all the wonderful

benefits of exclusively nursing! just make sure she's getting a

well-rounded diet with lots of protein and fat and formula should be

unnecessary.

 

HTH,

chandelle

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Michael!

 

>However, I have started doing some reading on some possible problems with soy

and am having second >thoughts (I read one critique that likened soy milk

formula to giving a baby girl 5 birth control pills a day).

 

Do you know what the author's scientific basis for this statement was?

or what their credentials are?

or what their biases or motivations for making such a statement?

any chance they have a link to WAPF - since that appears to be where most of the

outrageous and rabid anti-soy stuff originates from?

 

>Our pediatrician has suggested cow's milk.

 

If you are concerned about hormones, cow's milk naturally contains 50+ hormones,

whether it's organic or not. If it's not organic then there is the added bonus

of rGBH added in, along with the pesticides and antibiotics.

 

Your wife's breast milk contains the absolute perfect quality and quantity of

hormones, antibodies, fat, protein, carbs, vitamins & minerals for Jessica and

nothing, not even soy formula is nearly as good. I believe cow's milk or dairy

based formula is even further away from your wife's perfection as a nutrient

provider and here's why....

 

All cow's milk contains white blood cells (somatic cells), more commonly known

as " pus " .

 

According to Dr. John McDougall

 

" the SCC level in milk must be less than 750,000 SCC to comply with the State

and Federal Pasteurized Milk Ordinance.(32) This means one 8 ounce glass of

milk (240 milliliters) can contain 180 million white blood cells and still be

fine for you to drink and feed to your family. In a recent study of milk sold

in New York State the average SCC was 363,000 cells/ml.(33) These white blood

cells were produced by the cow to fight off the 24,400 bacteria/ml found in this

milk.

 

Dr. McDougall's sources:

 

32) Adkinson RW. Implications of proposed changes in bulk tank somatic cell

count regulations. J Dairy Sci. 2001 Feb;84(2):370-4.

 

33) van Schaik G. Trends in somatic cell counts, bacterial counts, and

antibiotic residue violations in New York State during 1999-2000. J Dairy Sci.

2002 Apr;85(4):782-9.

 

 

A recent study has also found that prions can be passed thru animal milk, human,

cow etc... organic or not.

 

Franscini N, El Gedaily A, Matthey U, Franitza S, Sy MS, Bürkle A, Groschup M,

Braun U, Zahn R. Prion protein in milk. PLoS ONE. 2006 Dec 20;1:e71.

 

This raises new concerns about cases of Mad Cow from dairy products showing up

decades down the road.

 

There are also numerous studies showing a link between Type 1 Diabetes and cow's

milk consumption, again- whether it's organic milk or not.

 

Soy contains zero hormones. Soy and all plant foods contain phytochemicals. Some

of these are isoflavones, which are called phytoestrogen only because their

structure and metabolism resembles that of human estrogens, but it is actually a

thousand times weaker than the real thing. It is believed that the benefits come

from the action of the phytoestrogens binding with hormone receptor sites of

cells and blocking the action of the real hormones doing too much of a good

thing.

 

Studies are mixed but overall it appears that reasonable amounts of minimally

processed soy such as soy milk, edamame, tofu are beneficial (not isolated soy

protein in energy bars, powders, most fake meats etc).

 

Here are some favorite links from a veg Registered Dietitian for some

perspective on soy:

 

http://www.jeffnovick.com/content/view/467/349/

 

http://www.jeffnovick.com/content/view/470/349/

 

You can also google for studies that show how Japanese young females increased

rates of earlier menstruating ages began with the introduction of dairy after

WW2. Earlier menstruation because of increasing dairy consumption is a growing

problem in the US today because of the high rates the dairy consumed and there

are now elementary age girls having periods. Earlier menstruation age is linked

to a number of reproductive health problems including cancer.

 

There are plenty of vegan registered dietitians online to answer more specific

questions about Jessica getting plenty of healthy fats, protein, carbs,

calories, fluids etc from a variety of healthy plant foods as she transitions to

weaning.

 

Best wishes,

D

 

 

>michael alessi <mwalessi22

>Apr 1, 2008 8:51 AM

>

> Which Formula to Choose for a Vegetarian?

>

>Hello All,

> My name is Michael. My wife Terri and I have a daughter Jessica who turned 1

year old today. I have been a vegetarian for the past 15 years and Terri for

the past 9. We do however, eat some fish, eggs and cheese.

> Jessica has been exclusively breast fed her whole life. We are now trying to

decide what is the best formula for her. We will be weening her from the breast

sometime in the next few months as we start to try to give her a brother or

sister. Neither Terri nor I drink cow's milk and our initial plan was to give

Jessica some type of soy formula. However, I have started doing some reading on

some possible problems with soy and am having second thoughts (I read one

critique that likened soy milk formula to giving a baby girl 5 birth control

pills a day). Our pediatrician has suggested cow's milk.

>

> If anyone has any suggestions or guidance, we would greatly appreciate it.

> Thanks so much in advance.

> Best regards,

> Michael

>

>

>

>

>You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I meant a better choice to cow's milk or cow's milk formula not a better choice

to breast-feeding. But if the child isn't breast-feeding they need the higher

fat content than what is in Rice Milk or Almond Milk.

Renee

 

robin koloms <rkoloms wrote:

The World Health Organization recommends breastfeeding for a minimum

of two years.

 

Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote: I disagree. I think the second year

of life a child needs the high-calories and fat of either formula or

breast-milk. It is why doctor's recommend whole cow's milk after 1 year old &

are no longer on formula. I would say second step soy formula would be the way

to go. There are way more hormones in cow's milk than in soy milk or soy formula

(not to mention pus and other things you wouldn't want going into your baby).

Think about everything that is pumped into cows to make them produce milk for as

long as possible after giving birth. Soy formula is a much better choice for the

second year of life. After age 2 (or whenever your pediatrician tells you that

you can move to a lower fat milk) then you can try an alternative like rice or

almond milk (which are both pretty good) in lieu of soy milks.

Renee

 

chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote:

hi michael,

 

if your daughter is 1, and is taking in quite a lot of solid food, she

shouldn't need a formula at all. in fact, most formulas are not designed to

be given after the first year. there are " next step " formulas for toddlers,

but i feel that they are a gimmick to keep parents continuing to buy formula

when it's no longer essential.

 

my daughter had an oral-motor dysfunction at birth and could not nurse. i

obtained as much donated breastmilk as i could, but she did have to be on

some formula. i'm lactose-intolerant, as is my son, so we didn't even

bother trying cow's milk formula. despite having some very serious

misgivings, we put our daughter on soy formula and she was on that, in

addition to donated breastmilk, until she turned 1, when we tapered her off

of it over the space of 2-3 weeks and then removed it entirely.

 

my advice to you is to skip formula altogether; don't undo all the wonderful

benefits of exclusively nursing! just make sure she's getting a

well-rounded diet with lots of protein and fat and formula should be

unnecessary.

 

HTH,

chandelle

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Michael,

I don't know the details of it all since we're still nursing and our

son's 3-1/2 years old (and we drink cow and soy milk), but I hear that

once weaned from breastmilk, children over a year old don't need any

white fluid anymore - it's just a matter of whether you want to

supplement her diet that way. Clearly I don't know enough about this

theory to speak coherently about it, but thought I'd throw that out

there as an option for your research. Oh, and I'm sure you've looked

into this, but your wife can get pregnant while nursing, and nurse

through pregnancy, and even tandem nurse them both once the new baby is

born. But, that's also totally a personal decision - just throwing out

another idea, in case none of the milk supplement ideas are resonating

with you all.

 

Happy birthday to your daughter - and to you parents, on this milestone

day for you all!

Lorraine

 

 

On

Behalf Of michael alessi

Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:51 AM

 

Which Formula to Choose for a Vegetarian?

 

Hello All,

My name is Michael. My wife Terri and I have a daughter Jessica who

turned 1 year old today. I have been a vegetarian for the past 15 years

and Terri for the past 9. We do however, eat some fish, eggs and cheese.

 

Jessica has been exclusively breast fed her whole life. We are now

trying to decide what is the best formula for her. We will be weening

her from the breast sometime in the next few months as we start to try

to give her a brother or sister. Neither Terri nor I drink cow's milk

and our initial plan was to give Jessica some type of soy formula.

However, I have started doing some reading on some possible problems

with soy and am having second thoughts (I read one critique that likened

soy milk formula to giving a baby girl 5 birth control pills a day). Our

pediatrician has suggested cow's milk.

 

If anyone has any suggestions or guidance, we would greatly appreciate

it.

Thanks so much in advance.

Best regards,

Michael

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

To all who responded,

I didn't want to clutter the message board with individualized thank

you's for everyone, so please accept this as a blanket note of

appreciation. My wife and I are going to discuss and explore many of

the options suggested. I knew it already, but you all reconfirmed

that I have a lot more reading/studying to do. Thanks so much again.

 

 

 

 

, danitamark wrote:

>

> Hello Michael!

>

> >However, I have started doing some reading on some possible

problems with soy and am having second >thoughts (I read one critique

that likened soy milk formula to giving a baby girl 5 birth control

pills a day).

>

> Do you know what the author's scientific basis for this statement

was?

> or what their credentials are?

> or what their biases or motivations for making such a statement?

> any chance they have a link to WAPF - since that appears to be

where most of the outrageous and rabid anti-soy stuff originates from?

>

> >Our pediatrician has suggested cow's milk.

>

> If you are concerned about hormones, cow's milk naturally contains

50+ hormones, whether it's organic or not. If it's not organic then

there is the added bonus of rGBH added in, along with the pesticides

and antibiotics.

>

> Your wife's breast milk contains the absolute perfect quality and

quantity of hormones, antibodies, fat, protein, carbs, vitamins &

minerals for Jessica and nothing, not even soy formula is nearly as

good. I believe cow's milk or dairy based formula is even further

away from your wife's perfection as a nutrient provider and here's

why....

>

> All cow's milk contains white blood cells (somatic cells), more

commonly known as " pus " .

>

> According to Dr. John McDougall

>

> " the SCC level in milk must be less than 750,000 SCC to comply with

the State and Federal Pasteurized Milk Ordinance.(32) This means

one 8 ounce glass of milk (240 milliliters) can contain 180 million

white blood cells and still be fine for you to drink and feed to your

family. In a recent study of milk sold in New York State the average

SCC was 363,000 cells/ml.(33) These white blood cells were produced

by the cow to fight off the 24,400 bacteria/ml found in this milk.

>

> Dr. McDougall's sources:

>

> 32) Adkinson RW. Implications of proposed changes in bulk tank

somatic cell count regulations. J Dairy Sci. 2001 Feb;84(2):370-4.

>

> 33) van Schaik G. Trends in somatic cell counts, bacterial

counts, and antibiotic residue violations in New York State during

1999-2000. J Dairy Sci. 2002 Apr;85(4):782-9.

>

>

> A recent study has also found that prions can be passed thru animal

milk, human, cow etc... organic or not.

>

> Franscini N, El Gedaily A, Matthey U, Franitza S, Sy MS, Bürkle A,

Groschup M, Braun U, Zahn R. Prion protein in milk. PLoS ONE. 2006

Dec 20;1:e71.

>

> This raises new concerns about cases of Mad Cow from dairy products

showing up decades down the road.

>

> There are also numerous studies showing a link between Type 1

Diabetes and cow's milk consumption, again- whether it's organic milk

or not.

>

> Soy contains zero hormones. Soy and all plant foods contain

phytochemicals. Some of these are isoflavones, which are called

phytoestrogen only because their structure and metabolism resembles

that of human estrogens, but it is actually a thousand times weaker

than the real thing. It is believed that the benefits come from the

action of the phytoestrogens binding with hormone receptor sites of

cells and blocking the action of the real hormones doing too much of

a good thing.

>

> Studies are mixed but overall it appears that reasonable amounts of

minimally processed soy such as soy milk, edamame, tofu are

beneficial (not isolated soy protein in energy bars, powders, most

fake meats etc).

>

> Here are some favorite links from a veg Registered Dietitian for

some perspective on soy:

>

> http://www.jeffnovick.com/content/view/467/349/

>

> http://www.jeffnovick.com/content/view/470/349/

>

> You can also google for studies that show how Japanese young

females increased rates of earlier menstruating ages began with the

introduction of dairy after WW2. Earlier menstruation because of

increasing dairy consumption is a growing problem in the US today

because of the high rates the dairy consumed and there are now

elementary age girls having periods. Earlier menstruation age is

linked to a number of reproductive health problems including cancer.

>

> There are plenty of vegan registered dietitians online to answer

more specific questions about Jessica getting plenty of healthy fats,

protein, carbs, calories, fluids etc from a variety of healthy plant

foods as she transitions to weaning.

>

> Best wishes,

> D

>

>

> >michael alessi <mwalessi22

> >Apr 1, 2008 8:51 AM

> >

> > Which Formula to Choose for a Vegetarian?

> >

> >Hello All,

> > My name is Michael. My wife Terri and I have a daughter Jessica

who turned 1 year old today. I have been a vegetarian for the past

15 years and Terri for the past 9. We do however, eat some fish,

eggs and cheese.

> > Jessica has been exclusively breast fed her whole life. We are

now trying to decide what is the best formula for her. We will be

weening her from the breast sometime in the next few months as we

start to try to give her a brother or sister. Neither Terri nor I

drink cow's milk and our initial plan was to give Jessica some type

of soy formula. However, I have started doing some reading on some

possible problems with soy and am having second thoughts (I read one

critique that likened soy milk formula to giving a baby girl 5 birth

control pills a day). Our pediatrician has suggested cow's milk.

> >

> > If anyone has any suggestions or guidance, we would greatly

appreciate it.

> > Thanks so much in advance.

> > Best regards,

> > Michael

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of

Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You know that your child can nurse while your wife is TTC and pregnant. If I

remember correctly, your wife can maintain a breastmilk supply for almost 6

months, if not longer. You may want to check into your local La Leche League.

My local leader is actually in my neighborhood and has been very supportive and

helpful.

Are you soy milk drinkers? Do you drink a glass of milk as a snack or with a

meal? I am still nursing my daughter, 22 months today, but, I plan that when

she is weaned, to not offer or supplement with soy milk. I am not a milk

drinker, never have been, and my hubby drinks milk only with PB & J sandwiches and

cookies

I also have read about those photoestrogens but we use soy products in our

cooking...Lily has preferred rice milk, but it doesn't last as long in the

fridge as soy milk. I have given her a bowl of cheerios and soy milk, and she

just plays with the milk. You might luck out like that

What ever your choice, it has to be feasible for your family.

Best wishes,

cassie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Michael,

 

For medical reasons I needed to stop breastfeeding earlier than I liked. I

ended up using Baby's Only. I am not sure if it will meet your needs, but

my son was on it for a short time and he liked it and was and is healthy- no

issues.

 

 

 

Paige

 

 

 

http://www.naturesone.com/comparison.php

 

 

 

 

 

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Tuesday, April 01, 2008 5:51 AM

 

[Norton AntiSpam] Which Formula to Choose for a

Vegetarian?

 

 

 

Hello All,

My name is Michael. My wife Terri and I have a daughter Jessica who turned 1

year old today. I have been a vegetarian for the past 15 years and Terri for

the past 9. We do however, eat some fish, eggs and cheese.

Jessica has been exclusively breast fed her whole life. We are now trying to

decide what is the best formula for her. We will be weening her from the

breast sometime in the next few months as we start to try to give her a

brother or sister. Neither Terri nor I drink cow's milk and our initial plan

was to give Jessica some type of soy formula. However, I have started doing

some reading on some possible problems with soy and am having second

thoughts (I read one critique that likened soy milk formula to giving a baby

girl 5 birth control pills a day). Our pediatrician has suggested cow's

milk.

 

If anyone has any suggestions or guidance, we would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks so much in advance.

Best regards,

Michael

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Avocado was Lily's first solid food. And, I am glad that formula was there to

supplement my lack of bmilk while I was experiencing a " drought " at work. But,

if the diet is well-rounded, like most have said, your daughter should be fine

with complete weaning, if that is the route you want to take.

 

 

chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote:

hi michael,

 

if your daughter is 1, and is taking in quite a lot of solid food, she

shouldn't need a formula at all. in fact, most formulas are not designed to

be given after the first year. there are " next step " formulas for toddlers,

but i feel that they are a gimmick to keep parents continuing to buy formula

when it's no longer essential.

 

my daughter had an oral-motor dysfunction at birth and could not nurse. i

obtained as much donated breastmilk as i could, but she did have to be on

some formula. i'm lactose-intolerant, as is my son, so we didn't even

bother trying cow's milk formula. despite having some very serious

misgivings, we put our daughter on soy formula and she was on that, in

addition to donated breastmilk, until she turned 1, when we tapered her off

of it over the space of 2-3 weeks and then removed it entirely.

 

my advice to you is to skip formula altogether; don't undo all the wonderful

benefits of exclusively nursing! just make sure she's getting a

well-rounded diet with lots of protein and fat and formula should be

unnecessary.

 

HTH,

chandelle