chandelleWhich Formula to Choose for a Vegetarian?

[Guest guest]

Cassie,

 

You may have better luck with a family practice doctor than with a

pediatrician. Not taking my daughter to a ped caused much more angst with the

grandmothers than any dietary choices ever could, but I never met one who

matched my medical philosphies. Spouse and I and daughter and my sister, her

spouse, their son and many friends all see the same doctor - true family

medicine.

 

Robin

 

Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet wrote:

Well said! What great advice, and I totally agree. I am and will

continue looking for a pediatrician who will trust me and agree with my healthy

eating and raising my daughter on whole veggetarian foods.

cassie

 

chandelle' <earthmother213 wrote:

*I think the second year of life a child needs the high-calories and fat of

either formula or breast-milk. It is why doctor's recommend whole cow's milk

after 1 year old & are no longer on formula.*

 

actually, the reason doctors recommend that is because they don't trust

parents to feed their children a wholesome, well-rounded diet with plenty of

calcium, calories and fat from other sources - and sadly, many parents have

time and time again proven them right. (this is the same reason why doctors

schedule vaccinations so closely together - not because it's essential, but

because the CDC doesn't trust parents to stick with the vaccination schedule

if they spread it out.) doctors recommend whole milk to ensure that

children get SOMETHING in their diet that will provide them with necessary

nutrients when so many families regularly feed their kids chips, candy,

soda, and various convenience foods as a major, primary part of their diet.

progressive pediatricians will say that as long as the child is eating a

whole-food diet with conscious intent applied to protein and fat, the child

will be fine without any sort of milk at all, and studies support this.

those of us who have raised our children on a whole-foods, plant-based diet

and are well-versed in nutrition can attest to this fact. i chart our

children's food intake every few months and without any animal products of

any kind in their diet they've always gotten more than enough fat, protein,

calcium and iron in their diet, as well as the rest of the essential

nutrients, without hardly any effort on our part beyond, ya know, feeding

them occasionally.

 

michael, has your wife considered continuing to nurse beyond the first

year? if she is not ovulating regularly enough due to nursing, simply

cutting out night nursings or dropping one or two nursings a day is often

sufficient to bring the cycle in balance. for some women, nursing through a

pregnancy is too painful, but some women do it just fine. if she was

capable of and willing to continue to nurse, that would be the best option.

 

chandelle

 

 

[Guest guest]

There is a AP doctor referral , as well on some Mothering forums

you can find other AP/Veg families, and get a referral on a family practice,

or ped. We were seeing a family practice doctor for the reasons listed

below, and she was on board with the diet, but she pushed antibiotics quite

a bit. I switched to a Ped now, and love her - she is okay with our diet,

supports extended BF, and other AP practices. I think it really just

depends on who you find - doctors are people too with lots of opinions. The

thing to remember is that none of them took any special parenting classes to

get their MD, so you still have to trust your instinct.

 

Susan

 

 

On 4/2/08, robin koloms <rkoloms wrote:

>

> Cassie,

>

> You may have better luck with a family practice doctor than with a

> pediatrician. Not taking my daughter to a ped caused much more angst with

> the grandmothers than any dietary choices ever could, but I never met one

> who matched my medical philosphies. Spouse and I and daughter and my sister,

> her spouse, their son and many friends all see the same doctor - true family

> medicine.

>

> Robin

>

> Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet <roxy87cabriolet%40>>

> wrote:

> Well said! What great advice, and I totally agree. I am and will continue

> looking for a pediatrician who will trust me and agree with my healthy

> eating and raising my daughter on whole veggetarian foods.

> cassie

>

> chandelle' <earthmother213 <earthmother213%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> *I think the second year of life a child needs the high-calories and fat

> of

> either formula or breast-milk. It is why doctor's recommend whole cow's

> milk

> after 1 year old & are no longer on formula.*

>

> actually, the reason doctors recommend that is because they don't trust

> parents to feed their children a wholesome, well-rounded diet with plenty

> of

> calcium, calories and fat from other sources - and sadly, many parents

> have

> time and time again proven them right. (this is the same reason why

> doctors

> schedule vaccinations so closely together - not because it's essential,

> but

> because the CDC doesn't trust parents to stick with the vaccination

> schedule

> if they spread it out.) doctors recommend whole milk to ensure that

> children get SOMETHING in their diet that will provide them with necessary

> nutrients when so many families regularly feed their kids chips, candy,

> soda, and various convenience foods as a major, primary part of their

> diet.

> progressive pediatricians will say that as long as the child is eating a

> whole-food diet with conscious intent applied to protein and fat, the

> child

> will be fine without any sort of milk at all, and studies support this.

> those of us who have raised our children on a whole-foods, plant-based

> diet

> and are well-versed in nutrition can attest to this fact. i chart our

> children's food intake every few months and without any animal products of

> any kind in their diet they've always gotten more than enough fat,

> protein,

> calcium and iron in their diet, as well as the rest of the essential

> nutrients, without hardly any effort on our part beyond, ya know, feeding

> them occasionally.

>

> michael, has your wife considered continuing to nurse beyond the first

> year? if she is not ovulating regularly enough due to nursing, simply

> cutting out night nursings or dropping one or two nursings a day is often

> sufficient to bring the cycle in balance. for some women, nursing through

> a

> pregnancy is too painful, but some women do it just fine. if she was

> capable of and willing to continue to nurse, that would be the best

> option.

>

> chandelle

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Just want to second Robin's and Susan's point about family docs. Our

whole family goes to a family doc, who is very supportive of all things

AP, doesn't vax in her office, isn't a vegetarian but often tells us

that we're more healthy than her family due to our great vegetarian

diet, and overall, is just a great helper to our family. If anyone

wants to travel to San Marcos, CA (northern San Diego county), she's

worth the trip and I can provide more info if you like.

Have a great day,

Lorraine

 

 

On

Behalf Of Susan Williams

Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:18 AM

 

Re: chandelleRe: Which Formula to Choose for a

Vegetarian?

 

There is a AP doctor referral , as well on some Mothering

forums

you can find other AP/Veg families, and get a referral on a family

practice,

or ped. We were seeing a family practice doctor for the reasons listed

below, and she was on board with the diet, but she pushed antibiotics

quite

a bit. I switched to a Ped now, and love her - she is okay with our

diet,

supports extended BF, and other AP practices. I think it really just

depends on who you find - doctors are people too with lots of opinions.

The

thing to remember is that none of them took any special parenting

classes to

get their MD, so you still have to trust your instinct.

 

Susan

 

On 4/2/08, robin koloms <rkoloms (AT) (DOT) <rkoloms%40>

com> wrote:

>

> Cassie,

>

> You may have better luck with a family practice doctor than with a

> pediatrician. Not taking my daughter to a ped caused much more angst

with

> the grandmothers than any dietary choices ever could, but I never met

one

> who matched my medical philosphies. Spouse and I and daughter and my

sister,

> her spouse, their son and many friends all see the same doctor - true

family

> medicine.

>

> Robin

>

> Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet@ <roxy87cabriolet%40>

<roxy87cabriolet%40>>

> wrote:

> Well said! What great advice, and I totally agree. I am and will

continue

> looking for a pediatrician who will trust me and agree with my healthy

> eating and raising my daughter on whole veggetarian foods.

> cassie

>

> chandelle' <earthmother213@ <earthmother213%40gmail.com>

gmail.com <earthmother213%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> *I think the second year of life a child needs the high-calories and

fat

> of

> either formula or breast-milk. It is why doctor's recommend whole

cow's

> milk

> after 1 year old & are no longer on formula.*

>

> actually, the reason doctors recommend that is because they don't

trust

> parents to feed their children a wholesome, well-rounded diet with

plenty

> of

> calcium, calories and fat from other sources - and sadly, many parents

> have

> time and time again proven them right. (this is the same reason why

> doctors

> schedule vaccinations so closely together - not because it's

essential,

> but

> because the CDC doesn't trust parents to stick with the vaccination

> schedule

> if they spread it out.) doctors recommend whole milk to ensure that

> children get SOMETHING in their diet that will provide them with

necessary

> nutrients when so many families regularly feed their kids chips,

candy,

> soda, and various convenience foods as a major, primary part of their

> diet.

> progressive pediatricians will say that as long as the child is eating

a

> whole-food diet with conscious intent applied to protein and fat, the

> child

> will be fine without any sort of milk at all, and studies support

this.

> those of us who have raised our children on a whole-foods, plant-based

> diet

> and are well-versed in nutrition can attest to this fact. i chart our

> children's food intake every few months and without any animal

products of

> any kind in their diet they've always gotten more than enough fat,

> protein,

> calcium and iron in their diet, as well as the rest of the essential

> nutrients, without hardly any effort on our part beyond, ya know,

feeding

> them occasionally.

>

> michael, has your wife considered continuing to nurse beyond the first

> year? if she is not ovulating regularly enough due to nursing, simply

> cutting out night nursings or dropping one or two nursings a day is

often

> sufficient to bring the cycle in balance. for some women, nursing

through

> a

> pregnancy is too painful, but some women do it just fine. if she was

> capable of and willing to continue to nurse, that would be the best

> option.

>

> chandelle

>

>