Hi all! I'm new to the group...and I have a multivitamin question, too :)

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone! I'm new here. I have been vegetarian for 16 years, and

I am raising my son, 15 months old, a vegetarian, with the support of

my wonderful " only when we go out " meat-eating hubby. I love him,

dearly!...lol...At the age of 12, my mother, vegan, changed our whole

family's eating habits when my sister was born. I'm very, very happy

with my mother's decision! It has been interesting being on my own

as a vegetarian, with my own household to care for, and marrying into

a meat-loving family of hunters. I forbid my husband to hunt or

fish, and he agreed. I can't complain! However, my mother-in-law

has been hard to deal with about raising her grandson vegetarian.

We've had our discussion, and my husband has always sided with me,

but it's getting pretty annoying now. She's upset because she can't

even make her grandson homemade chicken soup! It has been

frustrating! Anyways, I thank you all for your support.

 

I do have a question...can anyone recommend a vegetarian toddler's

multivitamin, liquid form, with out sugar? I was looking at Nature's

Plus Animal Parade Baby Plex Multi. Thanks!

 

Glad to meet you all!

Jamie

[Guest guest]

maybe you could interest your mother in law with the art of vegan sub cooking.

There are " not chicken " broth cubes at the health food store, and plenty of sub

meats if she cant use tofu. My kids love homade vegan " not chicken " soup when

they are sick. Just a suggestion. She can come up with all sorts of grandma favs

for a whole new tradition.

 

 

lilbludaisy <lilbludaisies

 

Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:54:25 PM

Hi all! I'm new to the group...and I have a multivitamin

question, too

 

Hi everyone! I'm new here. I have been vegetarian for 16

years, and

I am raising my son, 15 months old, a vegetarian, with the support of

my wonderful " only when we go out " meat-eating hubby. I love him,

dearly!...lol. ..At the age of 12, my mother, vegan, changed our whole

family's eating habits when my sister was born. I'm very, very happy

with my mother's decision! It has been interesting being on my own

as a vegetarian, with my own household to care for, and marrying into

a meat-loving family of hunters. I forbid my husband to hunt or

fish, and he agreed. I can't complain! However, my mother-in-law

has been hard to deal with about raising her grandson vegetarian.

We've had our discussion, and my husband has always sided with me,

but it's getting pretty annoying now. She's upset because she can't

even make her grandson homemade chicken soup! It has been

frustrating! Anyways, I thank you all for your support.

 

I do have a question...can anyone recommend a vegetarian toddler's

multivitamin, liquid form, with out sugar? I was looking at Nature's

Plus Animal Parade Baby Plex Multi. Thanks!

 

Glad to meet you all!

Jamie

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

My mom had a hard time at first too. Now she's so proud when she makes veg

soups. They are so easy and usually it's just sub'ing one or two ingredients.

Maybe you can pick up the veg. broth cubes and she'll be able to see how easy it

can be. Unfortunately, I still don't trust my MIL or SIL with the same issue.

There have been many times that they have given the kids chick soup, and said,

oh, I just didn't give them any of the chicken pieces in their bowl. I've been

very upset about it, and each time they act totally shocked, like they just

never knew. I do want my children (5 and 7) to have a relationship with their

family. Family is very important. The point for me is to remind the children not

to eat it, then if for some reason they eat something unknowingly, not to let

them feel bad about it. They can internalize it and blame themselves, which is

not how I want them to feel. So if it does happen, I still know I did the best I

could. Although my

in-laws have been very proud to tell me also when something is veg., they also

sometimes skip around the rules. Try to encourage it the best you can. Sorry, I

started this out encouraging, and may have taken a turn in my rant. Best of

luck, and reassure her that it can be very simple to substitute.

Janeen

 

 

 

 

Heather Farlow <farjoy2

 

Friday, April 11, 2008 12:20:44 AM

Re: Hi all! I'm new to the group...and I have a

multivitamin question, too

 

maybe you could interest your mother in law with the art of vegan sub cooking.

There are " not chicken " broth cubes at the health food store, and plenty of sub

meats if she cant use tofu. My kids love homade vegan " not chicken " soup when

they are sick. Just a suggestion. She can come up with all sorts of grandma favs

for a whole new tradition.

 

 

lilbludaisy <lilbludaisies@ aol.com>

@gro ups.com

Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:54:25 PM

Hi all! I'm new to the group...and I have a multivitamin

question, too

 

Hi everyone! I'm new here. I have been vegetarian for 16 years, and

I am raising my son, 15 months old, a vegetarian, with the support of

my wonderful " only when we go out " meat-eating hubby. I love him,

dearly!...lol. ..At the age of 12, my mother, vegan, changed our whole

family's eating habits when my sister was born. I'm very, very happy

with my mother's decision! It has been interesting being on my own

as a vegetarian, with my own household to care for, and marrying into

a meat-loving family of hunters. I forbid my husband to hunt or

fish, and he agreed. I can't complain! However, my mother-in-law

has been hard to deal with about raising her grandson vegetarian.

We've had our discussion, and my husband has always sided with me,

but it's getting pretty annoying now. She's upset because she can't

even make her grandson homemade chicken soup! It has been

frustrating! Anyways, I thank you all for your support.

 

I do have a question...can anyone recommend a vegetarian toddler's

multivitamin, liquid form, with out sugar? I was looking at Nature's

Plus Animal Parade Baby Plex Multi. Thanks!

 

Glad to meet you all!

Jamie

 

 

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[Guest guest]

We have the same struggle with my in-laws. They think it is such a

shame that DS cannot go fishing on a boat someday, so I have told

them if they need an outdoor activity to do with DS, he loves

gardening. They have yet to take me up on that...

 

Anyway, about the multi-vitamin. This isn't liquid, but it is a

powder you can mix into their food/juice/water. It is a vegan

vitamin made from whole foods.

http://drfuhrman.com/shop/supplements.aspx#Pixivites

 

HTH,

 

Susan

, " lilbludaisy " <lilbludaisies

wrote:

>

> Hi everyone! I'm new here. I have been vegetarian for 16 years,

and

> I am raising my son, 15 months old, a vegetarian, with the support

of

> my wonderful " only when we go out " meat-eating hubby. I love him,

> dearly!...lol...At the age of 12, my mother, vegan, changed our

whole

> family's eating habits when my sister was born. I'm very, very

happy

> with my mother's decision! It has been interesting being on my own

> as a vegetarian, with my own household to care for, and marrying

into

> a meat-loving family of hunters. I forbid my husband to hunt or

> fish, and he agreed. I can't complain! However, my mother-in-law

> has been hard to deal with about raising her grandson vegetarian.

> We've had our discussion, and my husband has always sided with me,

> but it's getting pretty annoying now. She's upset because she

can't

> even make her grandson homemade chicken soup! It has been

> frustrating! Anyways, I thank you all for your support.

>

> I do have a question...can anyone recommend a vegetarian toddler's

> multivitamin, liquid form, with out sugar? I was looking at

Nature's

> Plus Animal Parade Baby Plex Multi. Thanks!

>

> Glad to meet you all!

> Jamie

>

[Guest guest]

A day on a boat and not fishing could also be a lot of fun - if there's also

a destination where you guys could all get out and have a picnic and run

around and swim or whatever. This way it's similar, anyway.

I'm glad that my family doesn't do the hunting/fishing thing anymore, but

it's what I was brought up with and is also surprisingly one of the things

that makes me respect nature and animals so much (I was taught we had to

basically take only what we needed, leave things in nature better/cleaner

than we found them, don't take things out of the

forest-rocks/plants/bugs/whatever - I had a great respect of nature because

of it, and we did a lot of camping so I got to see the 'wilds' and it just

really sunk in. I think because my folks also carried that into their

hunting/fishing - taking only what we needed for food,not ever for sport -

because that was wrong...we also were told to leave animals alone, not to

tease/hurt/etc so, in some weird way it's how I got to where I am. LOL. I

want to, and have for the most part instilled the same sense of awe and

wonder, respect and conservation of nature with our son. He loves camping,

and doing outdoors stuff -biking, scootering, running, gardening, hiking,

anything outside in nature and being active - he's happy.

 

As for the OP...it can take a long time to talk to and try to figure out how

to talk to the in-laws. My mom and grandma, my mother-in-law and my brother

and sister in-laws are fine. My Father-in-law and step-mother-in-law have

been harder to deal with, in the past. This past Easter was the first time

we could have much of what was there (we offered and also brought more than

we said we would, and offered to make and bring my husband's b'day cake,

which we did). Usually they make stuff, and coat it in butter (we've had

this issue for as long as my son has been alive - he has a milk protein

allergy, so it was ALWAYS an issue before we went vegan, and were only

vegetarians, and before we had our son). Anyway - this was the first time

that everything FIL made, well, vegetable-wise we could eat. They did

have lamb, and my son seriously asked his grandpa why he ate that stuff,

because eating animals was yucky. Heh. Of course he only got some off hand

thing of they thought it tasted good or something so they ate it, and our

son said He did not and would not eat that stuff. I was proud of him, and my

FIL said that he didn't have to. So it was ok. It was also nice that my

husband's step-cousin's daughter told them she was a vegetarian now, too

and there was a very nice discussion or at least mention of how my husband

had been off and on vegetarian as a teen, and maybe vegan for a time in

there, too. They didn't ask me, but I too had similar experiences as a teen.

Probably why we get along so well. LOL.

I think what worked for us was always offering to help with family

celebration things - making parts of meals, not just secluding ourselves

from everything else (though in several years we couldn't eat what they made

because of the food allergy thing). But it takes time. With them, it will

take a LONGER time than just explaining what you do and why. Even with a

food allergy it still took FIL what nearly 4.5 years to figure it out (and

we had given them lists and links and things to keep in their wallet/purse

for when they were shopping for our son, or a shared meal with us/them). I

think part of the vegan thing was maybe because if we just eliminate a whole

category of 'if it comes from an animal, than it is not ok' LOL. We'd heard

every excuse from not realizing butter and yogurt came from milk/ milk

products...to just not reading and not knowing (though the claim of 'read

it, it is ok' and we doublechecked and it was NOT and in HUGE letters it

even had the allergy info and it contained milk...well...we live and learn.

We bring whatever we can. We have offered suggestions in substituting olive

oil for butter on veggies and so on. They may just not know and feel too

overwhelmed with your choices that they do not have to make (see, i give the

benefit of the doubt). I have also always tried to phrase it so that I was

trying to be helpful, because they may not know anything of how to

substitute. If you know how to make one thing, and are told you can't make

it with X then it can be kind of hard to figure out how to sub for it. I

know I would have not a single idea (at first, because I could look things

up and find a plethora of things to sub ) if I had to make something

gluten-free. I have an idea, because I've read some stuff. I couldn't do it

in some of my recipes RIGHT NOW because I don't know what it entails. Maybe

like someone else suggested, give some recipes, or something that would

allow them to still do something as part of whatever it was that made them

feel they could be part of sharing something with them that they hold dear.

We had to tell our IL's where they could go, close to them where they could

get a vegan slice of cake for our son (we didn't care if we had any, but

they wanted DS to share in the celebration or whatever, so they wanted him

to have cake or whatever). I tend to offer making things, but that's my

thing. I love to cook and bake, and they always love what I make and bring.

I only ever could seem to make headway when I just thought they didn't have

any kind of idea how to make adjustments to fit with us and the milk protein

allergy.

 

 

Hope that helps. Sorry if it kind of rambles. I'm all over the place today.

It takes a while, sometimes longer for some folks to get it, as they are

just not familiar with how you eat/live and somehow things change when

there's a little person involved, when some things may have been more

subdued before you had your child(ren). I know it brought out a lot of weird

stuff with me and some of my relatives, but things are getting better as

they realize that we have other ideas about what we'll allow with our child

or not. They may feel threatened by your insistence on certain things, too.

We could only ever offer assistance and alternatives. I think eventually

they figure it out, and/or there's some middle ground you can agree on. It

wasn't very smooth with some of my IL's and I still have some issues (of a

different nature) with some of my family, but there's some balance in there

where it works despite all the differences.

 

HTH

Missie

 

 

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Susan <virgo.vegan wrote:

 

> We have the same struggle with my in-laws. They think it is such a

> shame that DS cannot go fishing on a boat someday, so I have told

> them if they need an outdoor activity to do with DS, he loves

> gardening. They have yet to take me up on that...

>

> Anyway, about the multi-vitamin. This isn't liquid, but it is a

> powder you can mix into their food/juice/water. It is a vegan

> vitamin made from whole foods.

> http://drfuhrman.com/shop/supplements.aspx#Pixivites

>

> HTH,

>

> Susan

> <%40>,

> " lilbludaisy " <lilbludaisies

> wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi everyone! I'm new here. I have been vegetarian for 16 years,

> and

> > I am raising my son, 15 months old, a vegetarian, with the support

> of

> > my wonderful " only when we go out " meat-eating hubby. I love him,

> > dearly!...lol...At the age of 12, my mother, vegan, changed our

> whole

> > family's eating habits when my sister was born. I'm very, very

> happy

> > with my mother's decision! It has been interesting being on my own

> > as a vegetarian, with my own household to care for, and marrying

> into

> > a meat-loving family of hunters. I forbid my husband to hunt or

> > fish, and he agreed. I can't complain! However, my mother-in-law

> > has been hard to deal with about raising her grandson vegetarian.

> > We've had our discussion, and my husband has always sided with me,

> > but it's getting pretty annoying now. She's upset because she

> can't

> > even make her grandson homemade chicken soup! It has been

> > frustrating! Anyways, I thank you all for your support.

> >

> > I do have a question...can anyone recommend a vegetarian toddler's

> > multivitamin, liquid form, with out sugar? I was looking at

> Nature's

> > Plus Animal Parade Baby Plex Multi. Thanks!

> >

> > Glad to meet you all!

> > Jamie

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I will never understand people who think that just because they

didn't give you the meat, only the broth, that you didn't eat it. I

went through the same thing with my MIL as well. The broth is still

part of the meat! Grrr...my parents also went through this with

rasing my siblings and I.

 

Jamie

 

, janeen minguillo <jminshan

wrote:

>

> My mom had a hard time at first too. Now she's so proud when she

makes veg soups. They are so easy and usually it's just sub'ing one

or two ingredients. Maybe you can pick up the veg. broth cubes and

she'll be able to see how easy it can be. Unfortunately, I still

don't trust my MIL or SIL with the same issue. There have been many

times that they have given the kids chick soup, and said, oh, I just

didn't give them any of the chicken pieces in their bowl. I've been

very upset about it, and each time they act totally shocked, like

they just never knew. I do want my children (5 and 7) to have a

relationship with their family. Family is very important. The point

for me is to remind the children not to eat it, then if for some

reason they eat something unknowingly, not to let them feel bad about

it. They can internalize it and blame themselves, which is not how I

want them to feel. So if it does happen, I still know I did the best

I could. Although my

> in-laws have been very proud to tell me also when something is

veg., they also sometimes skip around the rules. Try to encourage it

the best you can. Sorry, I started this out encouraging, and may have

taken a turn in my rant. Best of luck, and reassure her that it can

be very simple to substitute.

> Janeen

>

>

>

>

> Heather Farlow <farjoy2

>

> Friday, April 11, 2008 12:20:44 AM

> Re: Hi all! I'm new to the group...and I have

a multivitamin question, too

>

> maybe you could interest your mother in law with the art of vegan

sub cooking. There are " not chicken " broth cubes at the health food

store, and plenty of sub meats if she cant use tofu. My kids love

homade vegan " not chicken " soup when they are sick. Just a

suggestion. She can come up with all sorts of grandma favs for a

whole new tradition.

>

>

> lilbludaisy <lilbludaisies@ aol.com>

> @gro ups.com

> Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:54:25 PM

> Hi all! I'm new to the group...and I have a

multivitamin question, too

>

> Hi everyone! I'm new here. I have been vegetarian for 16 years, and

> I am raising my son, 15 months old, a vegetarian, with the support

of

> my wonderful " only when we go out " meat-eating hubby. I love him,

> dearly!...lol. ..At the age of 12, my mother, vegan, changed our

whole

> family's eating habits when my sister was born. I'm very, very

happy

> with my mother's decision! It has been interesting being on my own

> as a vegetarian, with my own household to care for, and marrying

into

> a meat-loving family of hunters. I forbid my husband to hunt or

> fish, and he agreed. I can't complain! However, my mother-in-law

> has been hard to deal with about raising her grandson vegetarian.

> We've had our discussion, and my husband has always sided with me,

> but it's getting pretty annoying now. She's upset because she can't

> even make her grandson homemade chicken soup! It has been

> frustrating! Anyways, I thank you all for your support.

>

> I do have a question...can anyone recommend a vegetarian toddler's

> multivitamin, liquid form, with out sugar? I was looking at

Nature's

> Plus Animal Parade Baby Plex Multi. Thanks!

>

> Glad to meet you all!

> Jamie

>

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