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Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! Kathy - robin koloms Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM More Good News About Soy http://news./s/nm/20080411/hl_nm/soy_compound_dc Take that, WAPers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I have a thyroid condition and my endocrinologist told me that too, but my blood-work comes back the same whether I eat whole soy, processed soy or no soy. ~Susan On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand wrote: > That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still > have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! > Kathy > > - > robin koloms > > Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM > More Good News About Soy > > http://news./s/nm/20080411/hl_nm/soy_compound_dc > > Take that, WAPers! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Kathy, According to my endocrinologist when I asked about soy consumption with and without thyroid medication, it does not have an effect on the medication. I take Synthroid - have long before I started consuming soy in any form. I have noticed no difference in my TSH levels or anything due to the soy consumption. Moderation and variety in food - not just soy is always a good idea for an optimal diet. God's Peace, Gayle - Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:54 AM Re: More Good News About Soy That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! Kathy - robin koloms Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM More Good News About Soy http://news./s/nm/20080411/hl_nm/soy_compound_dc Take that, WAPers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Ditto. My endocrinologist (head of department at major research & teaching hospital) has said specifically that other than the rule to not eat ANYTHING for a certain amount of time before and after taking the daily pill, I do not need to be concerned at all about reasonable soy intake. As an interesting corollary, when I was diagnosed, they told me I'd have to sit down with a nutritionist because I would need to modify my diet. I told them I was a vegetarian and we talked about it for a moment. They laughed and told me that I was already doing more than necessary to have a healthy diet, so I didn't need to schedule the nutrition consult. The SAD (standard American diet) involves more total soy intake than people realize, due to eating animals who eat soy and eating processed foods which contain hidden soy products. Including reasonable amounts of actual tofu, edamame, and soymilk in your diet is not considered medically dangerous, even for people suffering from thyroid disorders. It's the dairy industry and the WAPFers who produce the anti-soy articles and " research " as scare tactics, which sometimes manages to convince doctors who don't have as much legitimate research info available to them. Liz Susan Williams <virgo.vegan Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:24:06 PM Re: More Good News About Soy I have a thyroid condition and my endocrinologist told me that too, but my blood-work comes back the same whether I eat whole soy, processed soy or no soy. ~Susan On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand wrote: > That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still > have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! > Kathy > > - > robin koloms > @gro ups.com > Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM > More Good News About Soy > > http://news. / s/nm/20080411/ hl_nm/soy_ compound_ dc > > Take that, WAPers! > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Gayle, Mine endocrinologist didn't know either. But while I was in her office, she looked it up in the NIH's database and apparently there are new studies out that show it's true. - Gayle Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:53 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Kathy, According to my endocrinologist when I asked about soy consumption with and without thyroid medication, it does not have an effect on the medication. I take Synthroid - have long before I started consuming soy in any form. I have noticed no difference in my TSH levels or anything due to the soy consumption. Moderation and variety in food - not just soy is always a good idea for an optimal diet. God's Peace, Gayle - Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:54 AM Re: More Good News About Soy That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! Kathy - robin koloms Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM More Good News About Soy http://news./s/nm/20080411/hl_nm/soy_compound_dc Take that, WAPers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Sorry the pad on this laptop is VERY sensative...LOL anyway, I couldn't figure out why I was feeling so lousy after going vegan. My mother-in-law gave me some info from her holistic doc about soy and that's when I started investigating it. Then my doc confirmed it with the studies... Have you read the book " The Whole Soy Story " ? I know any crackpot can write a book, but the author brings up some points worth looking into... Kathy - Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:23 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Gayle, Mine endocrinologist didn't know either. But while I was in her office, she looked it up in the NIH's database and apparently there are new studies out that show it's true. - Gayle Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:53 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Kathy, According to my endocrinologist when I asked about soy consumption with and without thyroid medication, it does not have an effect on the medication. I take Synthroid - have long before I started consuming soy in any form. I have noticed no difference in my TSH levels or anything due to the soy consumption. Moderation and variety in food - not just soy is always a good idea for an optimal diet. God's Peace, Gayle - Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:54 AM Re: More Good News About Soy That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! Kathy - robin koloms Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM More Good News About Soy http://news./s/nm/20080411/hl_nm/soy_compound_dc Take that, WAPers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hi Kathy, The Whole Soy Story was written by Kaayla Daniels - a notorious WAPer. In fact, her questionable " research " was funded by the WAP foundation. In case you don't know about WAP (Weston A. Price Foundation), they are heavy into dairy and cattle raising for food. She was paid by WAP and supports them adamantly. Anything she writes about food that replaces dairy or beef is highly suspect and more than likely very tainted in favor of dairy and beef. Her credentials, if I remember correctly, aren't that great either. I place her in the same category as I do Nina Planck and believe me, she is way down on my list as people to listen to in matters of nutrition and food. In fact, neither are on that list for me at all. Going vegan and feeling lousy can be from many things. Many people who go vegan and don't do research into the types of foods to eat to get the nutrition they need do feel lousy. It's a mater of making sure one gets the proper nutrients from the foods they consume in order to not only feel healthy but to be so too. I have been vegan since I was 16 years old; I am now almost 52 years old so almost 36 years. I have never had any problem consuming soy and my thyroid. When I became vegan, soy was not an option - there weren't soy foods as there are now. It simply had not evolved to what it is now. Underactive thyroids run in my family. My mother, both brothers, and sister all have problems with their thyroid and none of them are vegan. My problem is the same as theirs pointing heavily towards heredity. I eat soy pretty much every day - I love Silk soy milk and drink it every day. I have not experienced any problems with this. I questioned my endocrinologist quite heavily about the so-called soy-thyroid connection only becasue I did not experience a problem. He was not unsure about his answer at all. In fact he said their was all this hype about it but in all the years he had been in practice, he had not seen a notable difference in thyroid function and consuming soy products. I asked him if it had any affect on how effective synthroid/levothyroxine would be. He said it would only if it was consumed with the medication as is the case with all foods since no food should be consumed one hour after or two hours before taking these medications. Could there be a connection to those who have thyroid problems already and don't take medication for it? Yes, there could be but when taking the medication, it should negate any adverse effects the soy products may exacerbate in an already underactive thyroid. Mind you, I am not a medical practitioner of any kind. I am basing all of this on my experience, my endocrinologist's advise, and things I have read. No matter what the topic of research is, funding for that research should be looked at before deciding whether or not you will accept it totally or, as in Daniels case view it with skepticism. It would be nice if all research could be free from the influences of their benefactors, however that rarely is the case. We may never agree on this topic, and that's fine. There are those who will, there are those who won't. There are those who will have something totally different to say. That's what makes this world such an interesting place. God's Peace, Gayle " Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. " ~~ Ralph Waldo Emerson (1803 - 1882) - Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:25 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Sorry the pad on this laptop is VERY sensative...LOL anyway, I couldn't figure out why I was feeling so lousy after going vegan. My mother-in-law gave me some info from her holistic doc about soy and that's when I started investigating it. Then my doc confirmed it with the studies... Have you read the book " The Whole Soy Story " ? I know any crackpot can write a book, but the author brings up some points worth looking into... Kathy - Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:23 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Gayle, Mine endocrinologist didn't know either. But while I was in her office, she looked it up in the NIH's database and apparently there are new studies out that show it's true. - Gayle Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:53 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Kathy, According to my endocrinologist when I asked about soy consumption with and without thyroid medication, it does not have an effect on the medication. I take Synthroid - have long before I started consuming soy in any form. I have noticed no difference in my TSH levels or anything due to the soy consumption. Moderation and variety in food - not just soy is always a good idea for an optimal diet. God's Peace, Gayle - Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:54 AM Re: More Good News About Soy That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! Kathy - robin koloms Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM More Good News About Soy http://news./s/nm/20080411/hl_nm/soy_compound_dc Take that, WAPers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 BTW, Kathy, did you know that cruciferous vegetables were not recommended for people with underactive thyroids? Of course that's if you don't take medication with it, not if you have corrected the problem with a thyroid medication. Just a side note. God's Peace, Gayle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Of course we know, Liz how much nutritional information most doctors have studied, right? LOL My doctor asks me questions about nutrition half the time. It's too funny! God's Peace, Gayle - ERB Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:52 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Ditto. My endocrinologist (head of department at major research & teaching hospital) has said specifically that other than the rule to not eat ANYTHING for a certain amount of time before and after taking the daily pill, I do not need to be concerned at all about reasonable soy intake. As an interesting corollary, when I was diagnosed, they told me I'd have to sit down with a nutritionist because I would need to modify my diet. I told them I was a vegetarian and we talked about it for a moment. They laughed and told me that I was already doing more than necessary to have a healthy diet, so I didn't need to schedule the nutrition consult. The SAD (standard American diet) involves more total soy intake than people realize, due to eating animals who eat soy and eating processed foods which contain hidden soy products. Including reasonable amounts of actual tofu, edamame, and soymilk in your diet is not considered medically dangerous, even for people suffering from thyroid disorders. It's the dairy industry and the WAPFers who produce the anti-soy articles and " research " as scare tactics, which sometimes manages to convince doctors who don't have as much legitimate research info available to them. Liz Susan Williams <virgo.vegan Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:24:06 PM Re: More Good News About Soy I have a thyroid condition and my endocrinologist told me that too, but my blood-work comes back the same whether I eat whole soy, processed soy or no soy. ~Susan On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand wrote: > That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still > have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! > Kathy > > - > robin koloms > @gro ups.com > Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM > More Good News About Soy > > http://news. / s/nm/20080411/ hl_nm/soy_ compound_ dc > > Take that, WAPers! > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Thanks for all of the info. I do wait at least an hour after taking my meds in the morning. And I started feeling better after stopping the soy. It could have been a coincidence I guess. Maybe I will give it another try. I am sad to say that we didn't last on the vege/vegan thing because my 4 yr old daughter just refuses to eat beans. She loves pasta but that's not a complete protein. We were doing ok on calcium since we were doing the fortified rice milk. They were taking vitamins too but she was dropping weight. She's so skinny to begin with and my MIL and dietician were on my case because I was 'starving' her...LOL We have cut way down on meat and dairy from our previous consumption though:=) I looked up the woman that wrote the whole soy story on the internet but couldn't really find anything. I'm comforted to know she has an agenda...soy seems like a perfect food! Thanks again for info! Kathy - Gayle Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:33 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Of course we know, Liz how much nutritional information most doctors have studied, right? LOL My doctor asks me questions about nutrition half the time. It's too funny! God's Peace, Gayle - ERB Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:52 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Ditto. My endocrinologist (head of department at major research & teaching hospital) has said specifically that other than the rule to not eat ANYTHING for a certain amount of time before and after taking the daily pill, I do not need to be concerned at all about reasonable soy intake. As an interesting corollary, when I was diagnosed, they told me I'd have to sit down with a nutritionist because I would need to modify my diet. I told them I was a vegetarian and we talked about it for a moment. They laughed and told me that I was already doing more than necessary to have a healthy diet, so I didn't need to schedule the nutrition consult. The SAD (standard American diet) involves more total soy intake than people realize, due to eating animals who eat soy and eating processed foods which contain hidden soy products. Including reasonable amounts of actual tofu, edamame, and soymilk in your diet is not considered medically dangerous, even for people suffering from thyroid disorders. It's the dairy industry and the WAPFers who produce the anti-soy articles and " research " as scare tactics, which sometimes manages to convince doctors who don't have as much legitimate research info available to them. Liz Susan Williams <virgo.vegan Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:24:06 PM Re: More Good News About Soy I have a thyroid condition and my endocrinologist told me that too, but my blood-work comes back the same whether I eat whole soy, processed soy or no soy. ~Susan On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand wrote: > That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still > have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! > Kathy > > - > robin koloms > @gro ups.com > Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM > More Good News About Soy > > http://news. / s/nm/20080411/ hl_nm/soy_ compound_ dc > > Take that, WAPers! > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 <<I am sad to say that we didn't last on the vege/vegan thing because my4 yr old daughter just refuses to eat beans. She loves pasta but that'snot a complete protein. We were doing ok on calcium since we were doingthe fortified rice milk.>> The notion of a " complete protein " is so 1980s! You don't have to exactly match up your individual ingredients at each meal. Besides, there are many ways to get enough protein and other nutrition, even without soy and beans. Please read through the links on VRG's website, and go through the archives for this email list to find an abundance of ideas. It's not as hard as you've been lead to believe. This week, for example, we've had everything from Mexican to Chinese to Italian to sloppy joes. There's lots of vegetarian stuff your child will eat...I'm sure of it! Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Kathy, I am surprised that your daughter won't eat beans (though I won't eat most canned beans). At four (and now at 12) my daughter ate hoummous (with whole grain crackers and carrots) and refried beans (burrito, finger, etc.)daily. A weekly dinner is whole wheat pasta shells, white or red kidney beans, sauce, ricotta/tofu, frozen spinach and mozarella. There are other sources of protein, and most Americans get way more than they need. If you feel that you need to work with a consultant, find a nutritionist who is supportive of a vegetarian diet. And your MIL needs to learn that she had her turn at parenting, now it is your turn. Robin Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand <owner wrote: Thanks for all of the info. I do wait at least an hour after taking my meds in the morning. And I started feeling better after stopping the soy. It could have been a coincidence I guess. Maybe I will give it another try. I am sad to say that we didn't last on the vege/vegan thing because my 4 yr old daughter just refuses to eat beans. She loves pasta but that's not a complete protein. We were doing ok on calcium since we were doing the fortified rice milk. They were taking vitamins too but she was dropping weight. She's so skinny to begin with and my MIL and dietician were on my case because I was 'starving' her...LOL We have cut way down on meat and dairy from our previous consumption though:=) I looked up the woman that wrote the whole soy story on the internet but couldn't really find anything. I'm comforted to know she has an agenda...soy seems like a perfect food! Thanks again for info! Kathy - Gayle Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:33 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Of course we know, Liz how much nutritional information most doctors have studied, right? LOL My doctor asks me questions about nutrition half the time. It's too funny! God's Peace, Gayle - ERB Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:52 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Ditto. My endocrinologist (head of department at major research & teaching hospital) has said specifically that other than the rule to not eat ANYTHING for a certain amount of time before and after taking the daily pill, I do not need to be concerned at all about reasonable soy intake. As an interesting corollary, when I was diagnosed, they told me I'd have to sit down with a nutritionist because I would need to modify my diet. I told them I was a vegetarian and we talked about it for a moment. They laughed and told me that I was already doing more than necessary to have a healthy diet, so I didn't need to schedule the nutrition consult. The SAD (standard American diet) involves more total soy intake than people realize, due to eating animals who eat soy and eating processed foods which contain hidden soy products. Including reasonable amounts of actual tofu, edamame, and soymilk in your diet is not considered medically dangerous, even for people suffering from thyroid disorders. It's the dairy industry and the WAPFers who produce the anti-soy articles and " research " as scare tactics, which sometimes manages to convince doctors who don't have as much legitimate research info available to them. Liz Susan Williams <virgo.vegan Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:24:06 PM Re: More Good News About Soy I have a thyroid condition and my endocrinologist told me that too, but my blood-work comes back the same whether I eat whole soy, processed soy or no soy. ~Susan On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand wrote: > That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still > have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! > Kathy > > - > robin koloms > @gro ups.com > Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM > More Good News About Soy > > http://news. / s/nm/20080411/ hl_nm/soy_ compound_ dc > > Take that, WAPers! > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 there are many other complete proteins out there. Our fav is quinoa. Tasta alot like rice. Quinoa also makes alot of pastas and things for people that are gluten free. Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand <owner Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:19:19 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Thanks for all of the info. I do wait at least an hour after taking my meds in the morning. And I started feeling better after stopping the soy. It could have been a coincidence I guess. Maybe I will give it another try. I am sad to say that we didn't last on the vege/vegan thing because my 4 yr old daughter just refuses to eat beans. She loves pasta but that's not a complete protein. We were doing ok on calcium since we were doing the fortified rice milk. They were taking vitamins too but she was dropping weight. She's so skinny to begin with and my MIL and dietician were on my case because I was 'starving' her...LOL We have cut way down on meat and dairy from our previous consumption though:=) I looked up the woman that wrote the whole soy story on the internet but couldn't really find anything. I'm comforted to know she has an agenda...soy seems like a perfect food! Thanks again for info! Kathy - Gayle @gro ups.com Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:33 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Of course we know, Liz how much nutritional information most doctors have studied, right? LOL My doctor asks me questions about nutrition half the time. It's too funny! God's Peace, Gayle - ERB @gro ups.com Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:52 PM Re: More Good News About Soy Ditto. My endocrinologist (head of department at major research & teaching hospital) has said specifically that other than the rule to not eat ANYTHING for a certain amount of time before and after taking the daily pill, I do not need to be concerned at all about reasonable soy intake. As an interesting corollary, when I was diagnosed, they told me I'd have to sit down with a nutritionist because I would need to modify my diet. I told them I was a vegetarian and we talked about it for a moment. They laughed and told me that I was already doing more than necessary to have a healthy diet, so I didn't need to schedule the nutrition consult. The SAD (standard American diet) involves more total soy intake than people realize, due to eating animals who eat soy and eating processed foods which contain hidden soy products. Including reasonable amounts of actual tofu, edamame, and soymilk in your diet is not considered medically dangerous, even for people suffering from thyroid disorders. It's the dairy industry and the WAPFers who produce the anti-soy articles and " research " as scare tactics, which sometimes manages to convince doctors who don't have as much legitimate research info available to them. Liz Susan Williams <virgo.vegan@ gmail.com> @gro ups.com Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:24:06 PM Re: More Good News About Soy I have a thyroid condition and my endocrinologist told me that too, but my blood-work comes back the same whether I eat whole soy, processed soy or no soy. ~Susan On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand wrote: > That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still > have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! > Kathy > > - > robin koloms > @gro ups.com > Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM > More Good News About Soy > > http://news. / s/nm/20080411/ hl_nm/soy_ compound_ dc > > Take that, WAPers! > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > http://mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Kathy, The " complete protein " theory has been debunked by quite a few scientists and nutritionists. It used to be thought that you had to eat whole grains with legumes and all sort of combinations to get enough protein, but that is no longer the case. Americans get way too much protein anyway - even some vegans. If your daughter will not eat beans, that's ok. She can get her protein from other sources. As far as calcium in the fortified rice milk, broccoli actually has more calcium per calorie than any other food. If you feed your family a whole foods diet, they will get the nutrition they need. You may want to read " Disease Proof Your Child " by Joel Fuhrman. He advocates a plant based diet, but understands that some people may want to splurge on meat, dairy, etc. It is pretty sound information, and while everyone who writes a book seems to have an agenda, I haven't found anything about him to show that he would be biased one way or the other. Susan On 4/13/08, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand <owner wrote: > > Thanks for all of the info. I do wait at least an hour after taking my > meds in the morning. And I started feeling better after stopping the soy. It > could have been a coincidence I guess. Maybe I will give it another try. I > am sad to say that we didn't last on the vege/vegan thing because my 4 yr > old daughter just refuses to eat beans. She loves pasta but that's not a > complete protein. We were doing ok on calcium since we were doing the > fortified rice milk. They were taking vitamins too but she was dropping > weight. She's so skinny to begin with and my MIL and dietician were on my > case because I was 'starving' her...LOL We have cut way down on meat and > dairy from our previous consumption though:=) > > I looked up the woman that wrote the whole soy story on the internet but > couldn't really find anything. I'm comforted to know she has an agenda...soy > seems like a perfect food! > > Thanks again for info! > Kathy > - > Gayle > <%40> > Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:33 PM > Re: More Good News About Soy > > Of course we know, Liz how much nutritional information most doctors have > studied, right? LOL My doctor asks me questions about nutrition half the > time. It's too funny! > > God's Peace, > Gayle > > - > ERB > <%40> > Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:52 PM > Re: More Good News About Soy > > Ditto. My endocrinologist (head of department at major research & teaching > hospital) has said specifically that other than the rule to not eat ANYTHING > for a certain amount of time before and after taking the daily pill, I do > not need to be concerned at all about reasonable soy intake. > > As an interesting corollary, when I was diagnosed, they told me I'd have > to sit down with a nutritionist because I would need to modify my diet. I > told them I was a vegetarian and we talked about it for a moment. They > laughed and told me that I was already doing more than necessary to have a > healthy diet, so I didn't need to schedule the nutrition consult. > > The SAD (standard American diet) involves more total soy intake than > people realize, due to eating animals who eat soy and eating processed foods > which contain hidden soy products. Including reasonable amounts of actual > tofu, edamame, and soymilk in your diet is not considered medically > dangerous, even for people suffering from thyroid disorders. > > It's the dairy industry and the WAPFers who produce the anti-soy articles > and " research " as scare tactics, which sometimes manages to convince doctors > who don't have as much legitimate research info available to them. > > Liz > > > Susan Williams <virgo.vegan <virgo.vegan%40gmail.com>> > <%40> > Sunday, April 13, 2008 12:24:06 PM > Re: More Good News About Soy > > I have a thyroid condition and my endocrinologist told me that too, > but my blood-work comes back the same whether I eat whole soy, > processed soy or no soy. > > ~Susan > > On Apr 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Thomas and Kathy Hildebrand wrote: > > > That is great, but people with thyroid conditions, like me, still > > have to watch their soy consumption. It blocks synchronic medication! > > Kathy > > > > - > > robin koloms > > @gro ups.com > > Friday, April 11, 2008 7:26 PM > > More Good News About Soy > > > > http://news. / s/nm/20080411/ hl_nm/soy_ compound_ dc > > > > Take that, WAPers! > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > http://mail. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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