food at school- vegie kids being picked on

[Guest guest]

I have my daughters bring a lunch. You'd think that was a good thing

right? ahhaha Well.. NO!! My daughters are 10 (gona be 11 in may) and

12, and the kids at lunch do nothing but pick on them.

They have fresh salad at school.. uh huh Guess what is on it - TUNA!

Soo My daughters will not eat it.

They go with pb n j most days. My 10 yr old especailly loves it. Not

the greatest, but she takes a bowl with salad and some dessing in

with her. I also get the silk single serves and my kids (i am so

lucky) LOVE water, so they bring in water bottles.

Last week, the 10 yr old came home and cried (she is sensative LOL)

that one of the girls in her class keeps telling her she is sick for

eating the same food everyday. My daughters said it is good for you.

The kid says Yeah right jelly has sugar in it.

I said did you ask her what was in her nuggets or burger?

So the next day my daughter told her she was eating baby chickens and

cows.. so to shut up about her jelly. The girl cried and told the

teacher.

YUP my daughter got in trouble. WHY? Because she told the girl the

truth, well kind of it wasn't 'baby' chickens or cows, but who really

knows? My daughter has no 'right' to explain what is in the food at

school. OHH I said, she will not serve detention, unless the other 20

people who have been insulting her and bothering her serve one TOO!

That was the end of that.

It is so frustrating. I wish I was a more organized person, so they

could be homeschooled.

Dayle

[Guest guest]

..

> It is so frustrating. I wish I was a more organized person, so they

> could be homeschooled.

> Dayle

>

Dayle--I'm sorry your daughter is going through this situation! I'm not

surprised at the reaction of the school--just sad. As to the

homeschooling--if we had to be organized, not many of us could or would

do it! LOL! I say go for it! Marilyn

[Guest guest]

My son (11 in 11 days!) packs a lunch every day. He has had BBQ flung at him and

also had BBQ stuffed in the straw of his water bottle. Thankfully the cafeteria

monitor/teacher that day cracked down hard on the boys responsible.

 

He has also been told that he will die from not eating meat or dairy.

 

I regret now that he wore some t-shirts with gentle pro veg messages last year-

I wonder if some of the hassle he gets this year is because of the t-shirts.

Maybe it would have been easier if he had been more under the radar about his

vegan diet. It may have also contributed to his recent desire to eat dairy foods

on occasion.

 

It probably doesn't help that there is a boy in his class who comes from a large

family that runs a local meat company.

 

arrghh!

 

D

[Guest guest]

Way to stand up for your daughter. We have a mom at my school who refuses to

let her son attend detention, yet he is one of the ones who actually should be

there EVERY WEEK! She lives in that place in Africa....de'nile! LOL

cassie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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LOL : ) I hear that.

 

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:46 PM, sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 wrote:

>

 

> Dayle--I'm sorry your daughter is going through this situation! I'm not

> surprised at the reaction of the school--just sad. As to the

> homeschooling--if we had to be organized, not many of us could or would

> do it! LOL! I say go for it! Marilyn

>

[Guest guest]

I have a list of kid-friendly (mostly veg) lunch ideas; drop me a note if you

would like me to send it to you. I have a 12 year old who brings wraps or

salads most days. When we have a good assortment of veggies in the house, she

has had other girls beg her to share; sometimes I have to send a second salad or

container of leftover stirfry for the girls.

 

DC <keepuspurring wrote: I have my daughters bring a lunch.

You'd think that was a good thing

right? ahhaha Well.. NO!! My daughters are 10 (gona be 11 in may) and

12, and the kids at lunch do nothing but pick on them.

They have fresh salad at school.. uh huh Guess what is on it - TUNA!

Soo My daughters will not eat it.

They go with pb n j most days. My 10 yr old especailly loves it. Not

the greatest, but she takes a bowl with salad and some dessing in

with her. I also get the silk single serves and my kids (i am so

lucky) LOVE water, so they bring in water bottles.

Last week, the 10 yr old came home and cried (she is sensative LOL)

that one of the girls in her class keeps telling her she is sick for

eating the same food everyday. My daughters said it is good for you.

The kid says Yeah right jelly has sugar in it.

I said did you ask her what was in her nuggets or burger?

So the next day my daughter told her she was eating baby chickens and

cows.. so to shut up about her jelly. The girl cried and told the

teacher.

YUP my daughter got in trouble. WHY? Because she told the girl the

truth, well kind of it wasn't 'baby' chickens or cows, but who really

knows? My daughter has no 'right' to explain what is in the food at

school. OHH I said, she will not serve detention, unless the other 20

people who have been insulting her and bothering her serve one TOO!

That was the end of that.

It is so frustrating. I wish I was a more organized person, so they

could be homeschooled.

Dayle

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Danita,

I didn't have time to respond to this when I first read it, but it stuck

with me all day. I'm so sorry that your son is dealing with this. I

hope he's not badly affected by this, but I can't imagine he's not. I

underwent a lot of mistreatment by peers as a kid, and it really does

affect kids' self-esteem for a long time. Those kids should really be

taught how they could affect someone else - maybe a sensitivity workshop

at the school or something. If he didn't eat meat due to a religious

belief, what they did would have been a hate crime (i.e., forcing pork

on a Jewish or Muslim person). And frankly, this should be treated the

same way, with the same sensitivity - it's still a deeply held, family

value and philosophy, violated and denigrated by someone holding another

view, merely since the value is different from their own. I'm so sad

for your son, and for you since this must be hard on you, too. I don't

know that the t-shirts should be blamed, since I don't think a Jewish

kid wearing a Star of David around her/his neck should be told to tuck

it in and not tell anyone they're Jewish . . . so I don't think a

vegetarian kid who wants to show his value system on a t-shirt should be

discriminated against, either. That all being said, I grew up in a

farming family that raised/butchered/preserved our own meat, in a small

agricultural town (in southern CA, but small and agricultural and

meat-focused, nonetheless), and never liked eating meat, and so was

often a target for ridicule - even in my own extended family at the

dinner table. So, I know how oppressive a meat-focused community can

be.

 

Please take good care. And thanks for reminding me that I really want

to avoid our public schools here in our small, once-agricultural,

conservative town. I'll be thinking of your boy and wishing him good

feelings at school!

Lorraine

 

 

On

Behalf Of danitamark

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:16 AM

 

Re: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

My son (11 in 11 days!) packs a lunch every day. He has had BBQ flung at

him and also had BBQ stuffed in the straw of his water bottle.

Thankfully the cafeteria monitor/teacher that day cracked down hard on

the boys responsible.

 

He has also been told that he will die from not eating meat or dairy.

 

I regret now that he wore some t-shirts with gentle pro veg messages

last year- I wonder if some of the hassle he gets this year is because

of the t-shirts. Maybe it would have been easier if he had been more

under the radar about his vegan diet. It may have also contributed to

his recent desire to eat dairy foods on occasion.

 

It probably doesn't help that there is a boy in his class who comes from

a large family that runs a local meat company.

 

arrghh!

 

D

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lorraine!

 

I'm intending to talk to the principle when school is out in a few weeks. My son

doesn't want me to interfere so I'm respecting that for now. I'm going to

approach her about these issues you've touched on and how this is a disservice

to not only my son but also the other kids who participate in or witness such

treatment and not see any consequences. I'm expecting a good response from her

and hopefully some proactive effort at the beginning of the next school year.

 

Peace,

D

[Guest guest]

Hi Danita,

You know your son better than anyone - but just an aside, I used to tell

my mom not to interfere either, because I was embarrassed and wanted it

to just die away and not come up again. Unfortunately, bullies keep

going until they're stopped by adults - and if adults never step in,

bullied kids can really lose self-esteem and a feeling of belonging in

their own community. I'm so glad you're talking to the principal - you

might want to bring in the school social worker/ counselor, if you have

one, too. This isn't just an issue for your son, like you mentioned -

but for all the kids involved, those witnessing the behavior (and likely

scared to step up, and then feeling guilty for not doing anything), and

for the school community that isn't reversing a hostile learning

environment. What a good mom you are to step in and take care of this!

Best of luck!

Lorraine

 

 

On

Behalf Of danitamark

Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:17 PM

 

RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

Thanks Lorraine!

 

I'm intending to talk to the principle when school is out in a few

weeks. My son doesn't want me to interfere so I'm respecting that for

now. I'm going to approach her about these issues you've touched on and

how this is a disservice to not only my son but also the other kids who

participate in or witness such treatment and not see any consequences.

I'm expecting a good response from her and hopefully some proactive

effort at the beginning of the next school year.

 

Peace,

D

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Lorraine

 

Yes I've said all those things to my son about bullies and this is the

compromise for now. I may actually go talk to her before school is out for him

since I will have more time in the next few weeks between my semester ending and

his school year ending.

 

Things have improved here and there, since the " BBQ incident " , with other kids

defending him etc. He has also been sharing extra food and impressed a lot of

classmates that vegan food is more normal than they realized and can be very

yummy. So I'll probably continue to send extra stuff when I can. He also has a

birthday soon and we'll repeat what we did last year and bring boxes of tofutti

cuties to share with everyone in his grade at the end of a school day.

 

Thanks for the kind words and thoughtful replies!

 

Peace,

Danita

[Guest guest]

Hi Danita,

You're so welcome - and I'm so glad to hear about other kids coming to

his defense! Ah, my faith in humanity is returned! And there's no

better way to win over anyone than with tofutti cuties! J So yummy!!

Lorraine

 

 

On

Behalf Of danitamark

Thursday, April 17, 2008 12:45 PM

 

RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

Hi Lorraine

 

Yes I've said all those things to my son about bullies and this is the

compromise for now. I may actually go talk to her before school is out

for him since I will have more time in the next few weeks between my

semester ending and his school year ending.

 

Things have improved here and there, since the " BBQ incident " , with

other kids defending him etc. He has also been sharing extra food and

impressed a lot of classmates that vegan food is more normal than they

realized and can be very yummy. So I'll probably continue to send extra

stuff when I can. He also has a birthday soon and we'll repeat what we

did last year and bring boxes of tofutti cuties to share with everyone

in his grade at the end of a school day.

 

Thanks for the kind words and thoughtful replies!

 

Peace,

Danita

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

<<I'm curious as to what you all do and why... do you homeschool? Send them to

school? If they go to school is the teasing horrible?>>

 

Well, when they were little, honestly, the other kids didn't really notice, and

if they did notice, they didn't care. Then there was a stage where some of the

kids noticed, were curious, and some went home and announced to their parents

that they wanted to be vegetarian too! A few parents talked to me about it (I

knew of more kids, but not all the parents admitted it to me) but none of them

were interested in getting any advice or recipes from me. It was clear that

they weren't going to support their kids' interest.

 

But yeah, around 3rd grade, my older daughter started getting teased for eating

vegetables. She started bringing her half-eaten lunch home and having the

vegetables as an after school snack instead. For the first time, she let me put

lettuce on sandwiches, etc., as a way to sneak veggies into her lunch. She even

asked for " veggie slice " (soy-based lunchmeat) sandwiches, as a way to fit in.

And of course she took leftovers whenever possible, because cooked veggies in a

sauce or soup or casserole are sort of " hidden " .

 

She starts middle school next year, and supposedly, things are going to get

better. That's when more kids become aware of such issues and are better able

to convince their parents to let them be vegetarians. Even the German program

makes sure to have substantial vegetarian offerings whenever food is served,

because so many of the middle and high school students won't touch the sausages,

etc.

 

So, I guess what we've found is that it comes in waves. Sometimes, there won't

be any problems. And then, it can get sticky for a little while. When the kids

were really little, I sat down with their teachers at the beginning of the year

to explain things and give them a one-page typed up list. Now, the kids handle

it themselves. Whenever I'm at a school event, I bring it up as a diversity

issue, which helps people understand that it's not just some wacky whim.

Another mom and I are looking into starting a school " vegetarian club " for

families, to support our kids and to validate their standing as a legitimate

subset of the population.

 

I know that we're lucky, though. A lot of schools would just laugh at us for

suggesting that our families' vegetarianism should be accepted and even

supported.

 

Liz

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What happens at school has a lot to do with where you live. We considered

homeschooling, but really could not afford to give up a salary. We are fortunate

to live in a city with lots of educational options; my daughter has attended

public schools for the last six years that are very diverse, by design - the

principle of her current school (7-12) travels to every neighborhood in Chicago

to recruit students and maintain diversity. Alyssa's locker partner is a (hijab

wearing, vegetarian) Muslim and we are Jewish.

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

Speaking of this topic (veggie kids getting picked on at school). I

have

a question for parents of school-age kids. My kids are 3.5 and 22

months. I've been giving thought to homeschooling them, at least for

elementary school. One reason is our vegetarianism, but I do also have

other reasons, like there is just so much going on in schools today that

I don't like. I'm curious as to what you all do and why... do you

homeschool? Send them to school? If they go to school is the teasing

horrible? I'm in the process of trying to figure this out so I know what

I'm going to do when my daughter is ready for school and I welcome any

words of wisdom from fellow veggie parents.

 

Thank you!

Jacqueline

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

My oldest son is in grade one and we've been really lucky so far. We've

never had a problem with him being teased about being vegan. He is proud

of the way we eat. He has kids in his class from India, Pakistan and

China and often will come home and tell me they've told him some of the

things he brings for lunch are things they eat at home. At our

parent-teacher interview this year his teacher brought up the topic of

lunches, and said that my son's lunches are very different from everyone

else's and he's been pleased to see that it hasn't bothered my son at

all. His teacher said my son's lunches often look so good he wishes he

could trade :-). He also said many of the other students bring things

like Lunchables and other junk every day (which my son tells me too).

 

I don't know what it will be like going forward, though, it is something

I worry about -- our family is " different " from the others around, which

I imagine is true for many of you, too. We don't have cable and my kids

haven't even heard of most of the shows their peers watch all the time.

They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people view as

deprivation!). We make a lot of decisions and purchases based on the

environmental impact, which most people around us at this point don't

seem to consider at all -- so my kids don't have a lot of the stuff

their peers have. My kids are medium-tall in height but quite thin, and

I've also read that vegan kids tend to hit sexual maturity later, which

physically is a very good thing, but at school could make them more of a

target.

 

We're just trying to instill self-confidence in them and make sure they

truly understand why we've made the decision to live this way, so when

it happens (probably inevitable) they can stand up for themselves, and

it will be a learning experience rather than a debilitating one -- or

one that might make them turn against us and try to be more " mainstream " .

Heather

 

Jacqueline Bodnar wrote:

>

> Speaking of this topic (veggie kids getting picked on at school). I have

> a question for parents of school-age kids. My kids are 3.5 and 22

> months. I've been giving thought to homeschooling them, at least for

> elementary school. One reason is our vegetarianism, but I do also have

> other reasons, like there is just so much going on in schools today that

> I don't like. I'm curious as to what you all do and why... do you

> homeschool? Send them to school? If they go to school is the teasing

> horrible? I'm in the process of trying to figure this out so I know what

> I'm going to do when my daughter is ready for school and I welcome any

> words of wisdom from fellow veggie parents.

>

> Thank you!

> Jacqueline

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily and I could

only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I want to sabotage

it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it hurts me that they are

not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be

better suggestions.

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people

view as

deprivation!). "

 

Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my

kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them that

I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place

with having fun.

 

Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't have

people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

 

Jacqueline

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The french fries at McDonalds have meat in them. Which is why I

hate McDonald's if they can put beef in french fries then I don't

trust anything they have. We eat bean burritos at taco bell and

veggie burgers & fries at burger king (not often). But there are

vegetarian-friendly places out there. There is no reason to ever go

into the evil empire.

Renee

 

, Cassie Dixon

<roxy87cabriolet wrote:

>

> I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily

and I could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no

way I want to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are

veggies, and it hurts me that they are not thinking when they ask.

It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be better

suggestions.

>

> Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some

people

> view as

> deprivation!). "

>

> Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for

my

> kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell

them that

> I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that

place

> with having fun.

>

> Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you

don't have

> people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

>

>

 

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Cassie,

Don't know if it's still true, but McDonalds used to use beef in the

processing of their fries -- leaving you able to have a bottle of water

there. ugh. Picnics are sooooo much better, you're right!!

Have a great day,

Lorraine

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Cassie Dixon

Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM

 

RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

 

 

I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily and I

could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I want

to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it hurts

me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be included,

but a picnic would be better suggestions.

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar

<jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com> .com> wrote: Heather wrote: " They've

never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people

view as

deprivation!). "

 

Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my

kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them that

I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place

with having fun.

 

Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't have

people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

 

Jacqueline

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I suppose that the coffee doesn't have meat in it. Recently my nephew was

wrestling at our local high school (he lives about an hour from me), my

brother's mother-in-law brought coffee from McDonald's to the match and didn't

understand why I couldn't/wouldn't drink the coffee. I don't want to

financially support McDonald's in any way. Its the principle of the matter. A

company that goes out there way to put dead animals in things that should easily

be vegetarian (french fries, salad, etc) doesn't deserve my financial support.

Renee

 

Lorraine <ldemi wrote:

Hi Cassie,

Don't know if it's still true, but McDonalds used to use beef in the

processing of their fries -- leaving you able to have a bottle of water

there. ugh. Picnics are sooooo much better, you're right!!

Have a great day,

Lorraine

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Cassie Dixon

Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM

 

RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily and I

could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I want

to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it hurts

me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be included,

but a picnic would be better suggestions.

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar

<jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com> .com> wrote: Heather wrote: " They've

never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people

view as

deprivation!). "

 

Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my

kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them that

I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place

with having fun.

 

Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't have

people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

 

Jacqueline

 

 

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Hi Renee,

Hmmm, I'm sure they could figure out a way to filter the coffe through

bone shards or something. ugh. There's a McDonald's near us with one

of those big playground things, and everytime our son asks about it, we

say it's not a place for us -- only the people who go there can use it

-- like the playground at the church down the street that's only for the

kids who go to that preschool. For now, it's working. Indeed, they

don't need our money -- plus, it stinks hideously in there!

Lorraine

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Renee Carroll

Friday, April 18, 2008 12:05 PM

 

RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

 

 

I suppose that the coffee doesn't have meat in it. Recently my nephew

was wrestling at our local high school (he lives about an hour from me),

my brother's mother-in-law brought coffee from McDonald's to the match

and didn't understand why I couldn't/wouldn't drink the coffee. I don't

want to financially support McDonald's in any way. Its the principle of

the matter. A company that goes out there way to put dead animals in

things that should easily be vegetarian (french fries, salad, etc)

doesn't deserve my financial support.

Renee

 

Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > wrote:

Hi Cassie,

Don't know if it's still true, but McDonalds used to use beef in the

processing of their fries -- leaving you able to have a bottle of water

there. ugh. Picnics are sooooo much better, you're right!!

Have a great day,

Lorraine

 

 

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Behalf Of Cassie Dixon

Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM

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RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily and I

could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I want

to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it hurts

me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be included,

but a picnic would be better suggestions.

 

Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar

<jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com> .com> wrote: Heather wrote: " They've

never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people

view as

deprivation!). "

 

Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my

kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them that

I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place

with having fun.

 

Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't have

people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

 

Jacqueline

 

 

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I heard they used lard in the refried bean at taco hell... (that is our nickname

for it LOL)

 

Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote: The

french fries at McDonalds have meat in them. Which is why I

hate McDonald's if they can put beef in french fries then I don't

trust anything they have. We eat bean burritos at taco bell and

veggie burgers & fries at burger king (not often). But there are

vegetarian-friendly places out there. There is no reason to ever go

into the evil empire.

Renee

 

, Cassie Dixon

<roxy87cabriolet wrote:

>

> I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily

and I could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no

way I want to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are

veggies, and it hurts me that they are not thinking when they ask.

It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be better

suggestions.

>

> Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some

people

> view as

> deprivation!). "

>

> Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for

my

> kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell

them that

> I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that

place

> with having fun.

>

> Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you

don't have

> people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

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> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

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[Guest guest]

Quite a few years back, I had asked them what products were vegan -

wrote HQ. The beans do not have lard but the large burrito shells

have whey (or maybe it was the soft taco shells - can't remember

now). So your best bet at Taco Hell is the beans in a hard corn shell.

 

~Susan

 

 

On Apr 18, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Cassie Dixon wrote:

 

> I heard they used lard in the refried bean at taco hell... (that is

> our nickname for it LOL)

>

> Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote: The french fries at

> McDonalds have meat in them. Which is why I

> hate McDonald's if they can put beef in french fries then I don't

> trust anything they have. We eat bean burritos at taco bell and

> veggie burgers & fries at burger king (not often). But there are

> vegetarian-friendly places out there. There is no reason to ever go

> into the evil empire.

> Renee

>

> , Cassie Dixon

> <roxy87cabriolet wrote:

> >

> > I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily

> and I could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no

> way I want to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are

> veggies, and it hurts me that they are not thinking when they ask.

> It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be better

> suggestions.

> >

> > Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

> Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some

> people

> > view as

> > deprivation!). "

> >

> > Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for

> my

> > kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell

> them that

> > I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that

> place

> > with having fun.

> >

> > Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you

> don't have

> > people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

> >

> > Jacqueline

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> Mobile. Try it now.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You need to check with the individual taco bells; some use lard, some don't.

 

Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet wrote: I heard they used lard

in the refried bean at taco hell... (that is our nickname for it LOL)

 

Renee Carroll <renecarol25 wrote: The french fries at McDonalds have

meat in them. Which is why I

hate McDonald's if they can put beef in french fries then I don't

trust anything they have. We eat bean burritos at taco bell and

veggie burgers & fries at burger king (not often). But there are

vegetarian-friendly places out there. There is no reason to ever go

into the evil empire.

Renee

 

, Cassie Dixon

<roxy87cabriolet wrote:

>

> I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily

and I could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no

way I want to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are

veggies, and it hurts me that they are not thinking when they ask.

It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be better

suggestions.

>

> Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some

people

> view as

> deprivation!). "

>

> Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for

my

> kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell

them that

> I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that

place

> with having fun.

>

> Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you

don't have

> people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

>

>

 

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

Mobile. Try it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I used to work at taco bell as a teen. They use dehydrated beans and just add

water. They are vege-friendly but owned by KFC so still not good unless there is

nothing else.

 

 

Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet

 

Friday, April 18, 2008 3:24:11 PM

Re: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

I heard they used lard in the refried bean at taco hell... (that

is our nickname for it LOL)

 

Renee Carroll <renecarol25@ > wrote: The

french fries at McDonalds have meat in them. Which is why I

hate McDonald's if they can put beef in french fries then I don't

trust anything they have. We eat bean burritos at taco bell and

veggie burgers & fries at burger king (not often). But there are

vegetarian-friendly places out there. There is no reason to ever go

into the evil empire.

Renee

 

@gro ups.com, Cassie Dixon

<roxy87cabriolet@ ...> wrote:

>

> I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily

and I could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no

way I want to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are

veggies, and it hurts me that they are not thinking when they ask.

It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be better

suggestions.

>

> Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some

people

> view as

> deprivation! ). "

>

> Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for

my

> kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell

them that

> I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that

place

> with having fun.

>

> Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you

don't have

> people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That is correct, it varies by franchise. I thought they were vegetarian and

my husband asked when we were at an airport taco bell. The cashier said yes

they were, but a cook heard and said no. She actually brought out the bulk

packaging and showed me that they had lard in them. She indicated that it

varies by franchise and there is no way to be sure unless you know the

distributor for the beans used or have checked the label. I saw with my own

eyes, at least at one location they had lard in them and the cashier had no

idea but said yes and was going to sell them to me anyway.

 

 

 

Paige

 

 

 

_____

 

On

Behalf Of robin koloms

Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:44 AM

 

Re: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on

 

 

 

You need to check with the individual taco bells; some use lard, some don't.

 

Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet@ <roxy87cabriolet%40>

> wrote: I heard they used lard in the refried bean at taco hell...

(that is our nickname for it LOL)

 

Renee Carroll <renecarol25@ <renecarol25%40> >

wrote: The french fries at McDonalds have meat in them. Which is why I

hate McDonald's if they can put beef in french fries then I don't

trust anything they have. We eat bean burritos at taco bell and

veggie burgers & fries at burger king (not often). But there are

vegetarian-friendly places out there. There is no reason to ever go

into the evil empire.

Renee

 

@gro <%40> ups.com,

Cassie Dixon

<roxy87cabriolet wrote:

>

> I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily

and I could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no

way I want to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are

veggies, and it hurts me that they are not thinking when they ask.

It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be better

suggestions.

>

> Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote:

Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some

people

> view as

> deprivation!). "

>

> Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for

my

> kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell

them that

> I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that

place

> with having fun.

>

> Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you

don't have

> people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

>

>

 

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

Mobile. Try it now.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yesterday we drove by Mcdonalds with my older daughter's friend and

she said 'oooh Mcdonalds'. And my 4 year old said 'yuck, McStupid'.

 

, " Lorraine " <ldemi wrote:

>

> Hi Renee,

> Hmmm, I'm sure they could figure out a way to filter the coffe

through

> bone shards or something. ugh. There's a McDonald's near us with

one

> of those big playground things, and everytime our son asks about

it, we

> say it's not a place for us -- only the people who go there can use

it

> -- like the playground at the church down the street that's only

for the

> kids who go to that preschool. For now, it's working. Indeed,

they

> don't need our money -- plus, it stinks hideously in there!

> Lorraine

>

>

>

>

On

> Behalf Of Renee Carroll

> Friday, April 18, 2008 12:05 PM

>

> RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being

picked on

>

>

>

> I suppose that the coffee doesn't have meat in it. Recently my

nephew

> was wrestling at our local high school (he lives about an hour from

me),

> my brother's mother-in-law brought coffee from McDonald's to the

match

> and didn't understand why I couldn't/wouldn't drink the coffee. I

don't

> want to financially support McDonald's in any way. Its the

principle of

> the matter. A company that goes out there way to put dead animals in

> things that should easily be vegetarian (french fries, salad, etc)

> doesn't deserve my financial support.

> Renee

>

> Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > wrote:

> Hi Cassie,

> Don't know if it's still true, but McDonalds used to use beef in the

> processing of their fries -- leaving you able to have a bottle of

water

> there. ugh. Picnics are sooooo much better, you're right!!

> Have a great day,

> Lorraine

>

>

> @gro <%40>

ups.com

> [@gro <%40>

> ups.com] On

> Behalf Of Cassie Dixon

> Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM

> @gro <%40>

ups.com

> RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being

picked on

>

> I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily

and I

> could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I

want

> to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it

hurts

> me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be

included,

> but a picnic would be better suggestions.

>

> Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar

> <jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com> .com> wrote: Heather

wrote: " They've

> never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people

> view as

> deprivation!). "

>

> Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my

> kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them

that

> I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that

place

> with having fun.

>

> Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't

have

> people living like you next door, we are out there! :-)

>

> Jacqueline

>

>

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try

> it now.

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