Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hi all, I also remember that there's something else about Taco Bell foods - trans fats? Hydrogenated stuff? I can't remember, but we're lucky enough to have a Rubio's and a family-owned taco shop near us, both of which have healthier veggie beans and tortillas and are super good about telling us what's in stuff. Sure, Rubio's closes at 9pm, so late night food isn't possible like at Taco Bell, and they're not everywhere if you're traveling - but a great option most times for us. Happy Burrito-ing, Lorraine On Behalf Of Paige Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:27 PM RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on That is correct, it varies by franchise. I thought they were vegetarian and my husband asked when we were at an airport taco bell. The cashier said yes they were, but a cook heard and said no. She actually brought out the bulk packaging and showed me that they had lard in them. She indicated that it varies by franchise and there is no way to be sure unless you know the distributor for the beans used or have checked the label. I saw with my own eyes, at least at one location they had lard in them and the cashier had no idea but said yes and was going to sell them to me anyway. Paige _____ @gro <%40> ups.com [@gro <%40> ups.com] On Behalf Of robin koloms Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:44 AM @gro <%40> ups.com Re: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on You need to check with the individual taco bells; some use lard, some don't. Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet@ <roxy87cabriolet%40> > wrote: I heard they used lard in the refried bean at taco hell... (that is our nickname for it LOL) Renee Carroll <renecarol25@ <renecarol25%40> > wrote: The french fries at McDonalds have meat in them. Which is why I hate McDonald's if they can put beef in french fries then I don't trust anything they have. We eat bean burritos at taco bell and veggie burgers & fries at burger king (not often). But there are vegetarian-friendly places out there. There is no reason to ever go into the evil empire. Renee @gro <%40> ups.com, Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet wrote: > > I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily and I could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I want to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it hurts me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be better suggestions. > > Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote: Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people > view as > deprivation!). " > > Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my > kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them that > I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place > with having fun. > > Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't have > people living like you next door, we are out there! :-) > > Jacqueline > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hi Jill, That is hilarious! Lorraine On Behalf Of jillben2008 Sunday, April 20, 2008 7:54 AM Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on Yesterday we drove by Mcdonalds with my older daughter's friend and she said 'oooh Mcdonalds'. And my 4 year old said 'yuck, McStupid'. @gro <%40> ups.com, " Lorraine " <ldemi wrote: > > Hi Renee, > Hmmm, I'm sure they could figure out a way to filter the coffe through > bone shards or something. ugh. There's a McDonald's near us with one > of those big playground things, and everytime our son asks about it, we > say it's not a place for us -- only the people who go there can use it > -- like the playground at the church down the street that's only for the > kids who go to that preschool. For now, it's working. Indeed, they > don't need our money -- plus, it stinks hideously in there! > Lorraine > > > > @gro <%40> ups.com [@gro <%40> ups.com] On > Behalf Of Renee Carroll > Friday, April 18, 2008 12:05 PM > @gro <%40> ups.com > RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on > > > > I suppose that the coffee doesn't have meat in it. Recently my nephew > was wrestling at our local high school (he lives about an hour from me), > my brother's mother-in-law brought coffee from McDonald's to the match > and didn't understand why I couldn't/wouldn't drink the coffee. I don't > want to financially support McDonald's in any way. Its the principle of > the matter. A company that goes out there way to put dead animals in > things that should easily be vegetarian (french fries, salad, etc) > doesn't deserve my financial support. > Renee > > Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > wrote: > Hi Cassie, > Don't know if it's still true, but McDonalds used to use beef in the > processing of their fries -- leaving you able to have a bottle of water > there. ugh. Picnics are sooooo much better, you're right!! > Have a great day, > Lorraine > > > @gro <%40> ups.com > [@gro <%40> > ups.com] On > Behalf Of Cassie Dixon > Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM > @gro <%40> ups.com > RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on > > I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily and I > could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I want > to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it hurts > me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be included, > but a picnic would be better suggestions. > > Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar > <jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com> .com> wrote: Heather wrote: " They've > never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people > view as > deprivation!). " > > Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my > kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them that > I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place > with having fun. > > Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't have > people living like you next door, we are out there! :-) > > Jacqueline > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try > it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hee. When my son was aound 2.5 he asked me what the big M stood for, and I told him it was the sign for a restaurant, and he'd say, No, it stands for MAMA. I think on the rare occasion when we pass one he asks if we can go, but we've told him before we won't go there because all they serve is meat. He says " Eew. Yuck. Meat " . Hee. He has come to the conclusion on his own, as we actually have never prompted him to say such. Missie On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 9:54 AM, jillben2008 <jillben2008 wrote: > Yesterday we drove by Mcdonalds with my older daughter's friend and > she said 'oooh Mcdonalds'. And my 4 year old said 'yuck, McStupid'. > > <%40>, > " Lorraine " <ldemi wrote: > > > > Hi Renee, > > Hmmm, I'm sure they could figure out a way to filter the coffe > through > > bone shards or something. ugh. There's a McDonald's near us with > one > > of those big playground things, and everytime our son asks about > it, we > > say it's not a place for us -- only the people who go there can use > it > > -- like the playground at the church down the street that's only > for the > > kids who go to that preschool. For now, it's working. Indeed, > they > > don't need our money -- plus, it stinks hideously in there! > > Lorraine > > > > > > > > <%40> > [ <%40>] On > > Behalf Of Renee Carroll > > Friday, April 18, 2008 12:05 PM > > <%40> > > RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being > picked on > > > > > > > > I suppose that the coffee doesn't have meat in it. Recently my > nephew > > was wrestling at our local high school (he lives about an hour from > me), > > my brother's mother-in-law brought coffee from McDonald's to the > match > > and didn't understand why I couldn't/wouldn't drink the coffee. I > don't > > want to financially support McDonald's in any way. Its the > principle of > > the matter. A company that goes out there way to put dead animals in > > things that should easily be vegetarian (french fries, salad, etc) > > doesn't deserve my financial support. > > Renee > > > > Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu <ldemi%2540ucsd.edu>> > > wrote: > > Hi Cassie, > > Don't know if it's still true, but McDonalds used to use beef in the > > processing of their fries -- leaving you able to have a bottle of > water > > there. ugh. Picnics are sooooo much better, you're right!! > > Have a great day, > > Lorraine > > > > > > @gro <%40<%2540>> > > ups.com > > [@gro <%40<%2540> > > > > ups.com] On > > Behalf Of Cassie Dixon > > Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM > > @gro <%40<%2540>> > > ups.com > > RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being > picked on > > > > I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily > and I > > could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I > want > > to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it > hurts > > me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be > included, > > but a picnic would be better suggestions. > > > > Jacqueline Bodnar <jb@jacquelinebodnar > > <jb%40jacquelinebodnar.com <jb%2540jacquelinebodnar.com>> .com> > wrote: Heather > wrote: " They've > > never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people > > view as > > deprivation!). " > > > > Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my > > kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them > that > > I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that > place > > with having fun. > > > > Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't > have > > people living like you next door, we are out there! :-) > > > > Jacqueline > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try > > it now. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Heather, Our situation sounds similar in some of the choices we have made with our son. We do not do TV, no media rule and there is no fastfood. The exception if we are on the road and want a break from what we have packed is sometimes a subway for a veggie sandwich. And again that is only on roadtrips. The good thing for us is that the school where we go recognizes differences and cultivates a respect among students. You are more likely to be teased if you bring white rice (not brown) to school then if you have a veggie lunch. We also are trying to bring him up to understand our differences and to embrace them and be proud of them. So far he is great with it, he is only 5, and most of his friends beg to have some of his foods and fun items that are in his lunch. And thank goodness we do not have to worry about any of the issues that cartoons and commercials would bring to our veggie household. Time enough for that when he is older. Paige _____ On Behalf Of Heather Hossfeld Friday, April 18, 2008 6:14 AM Re: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on My oldest son is in grade one and we've been really lucky so far. We've never had a problem with him being teased about being vegan. He is proud of the way we eat. He has kids in his class from India, Pakistan and China and often will come home and tell me they've told him some of the things he brings for lunch are things they eat at home. At our parent-teacher interview this year his teacher brought up the topic of lunches, and said that my son's lunches are very different from everyone else's and he's been pleased to see that it hasn't bothered my son at all. His teacher said my son's lunches often look so good he wishes he could trade :-). He also said many of the other students bring things like Lunchables and other junk every day (which my son tells me too). I don't know what it will be like going forward, though, it is something I worry about -- our family is " different " from the others around, which I imagine is true for many of you, too. We don't have cable and my kids haven't even heard of most of the shows their peers watch all the time. They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people view as deprivation!). We make a lot of decisions and purchases based on the environmental impact, which most people around us at this point don't seem to consider at all -- so my kids don't have a lot of the stuff their peers have. My kids are medium-tall in height but quite thin, and I've also read that vegan kids tend to hit sexual maturity later, which physically is a very good thing, but at school could make them more of a target. We're just trying to instill self-confidence in them and make sure they truly understand why we've made the decision to live this way, so when it happens (probably inevitable) they can stand up for themselves, and it will be a learning experience rather than a debilitating one -- or one that might make them turn against us and try to be more " mainstream " . Heather Jacqueline Bodnar wrote: > > Speaking of this topic (veggie kids getting picked on at school). I have > a question for parents of school-age kids. My kids are 3.5 and 22 > months. I've been giving thought to homeschooling them, at least for > elementary school. One reason is our vegetarianism, but I do also have > other reasons, like there is just so much going on in schools today that > I don't like. I'm curious as to what you all do and why... do you > homeschool? Send them to school? If they go to school is the teasing > horrible? I'm in the process of trying to figure this out so I know what > I'm going to do when my daughter is ready for school and I welcome any > words of wisdom from fellow veggie parents. > > Thank you! > Jacqueline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 In a similiar way, my husband and I went to a mexican place for dinner, a different place than usual, and was served black bean soup with chicken broth. When I asked the waitress, she said, no it wasn't made with any chicken. I clarified that to include the broth. Of course, when I tasted it, I could taste the chicken broth, and asked her to check with the chef. She was getting annoyed, and said, well I told you it doesn't. So the manager was nearby and she asked him, he said, no it doesn't have chicken. I stopped eating it immediately, and despite her annoyance and looking around at other customers for her reassurance, she asked the chef. Comes back, and removes the bowl without a word, and walks away. Well, I guess it did. So I was just waiting for my husband to finish his meal, and about 10 minutes later, someone else gives me another bowl of soup, without a word as well. I ask the waitress, what happened and she says, oh, he had to make you another bowl, without the chicken. By this time I didn't want to eat it anyway, but figured I'd try it since the chef made the effort to make another bowl. It didn't taste like it had the broth in it that time, but really, I could only have a couple bites anyway, just didn't trust the whole situation. I asked the waitress, why wouldn't she just tell me she made a mistake and he was going to make a new one, no response, but I guess she was embarrassed. I had been a waitress in high school and college, and wouldn't ever go off on her, but instead of leaving no tip, like my husband wanted, I left an extra tip. Maybe next time she would take the time to ask the chef instead of going off on her own. Sometimes the people working at a place don't care that much about what you want, but go with a guess, and what will make their job easier. Someone asking questions may be seen as difficult or take too long, but they could learn something from us too. Very impressive that the chef at Taco Bell took the time to overhear you and show you the package. There is a difference, because the person preparing the food may have more pride in what they are preparing, then some of the people serving it. It's great when someone will take the time to do a little something extra. Thanks for sharing, because I didn't know that about the lard in the beans, either. Janeen Paige <gosstucker Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:26:54 AM RE: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on That is correct, it varies by franchise. I thought they were vegetarian and my husband asked when we were at an airport taco bell. The cashier said yes they were, but a cook heard and said no. She actually brought out the bulk packaging and showed me that they had lard in them. She indicated that it varies by franchise and there is no way to be sure unless you know the distributor for the beans used or have checked the label. I saw with my own eyes, at least at one location they had lard in them and the cashier had no idea but said yes and was going to sell them to me anyway. Paige _____ @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of robin koloms Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:44 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: food at school- vegie kids being picked on You need to check with the individual taco bells; some use lard, some don't. Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet@ <roxy87cabri olet%40. com> > wrote: I heard they used lard in the refried bean at taco hell... (that is our nickname for it LOL) Renee Carroll <renecarol25@ <renecarol25 %40. com> > wrote: The french fries at McDonalds have meat in them. Which is why I hate McDonald's if they can put beef in french fries then I don't trust anything they have. We eat bean burritos at taco bell and veggie burgers & fries at burger king (not often). But there are vegetarian-friendly places out there. There is no reason to ever go into the evil empire. Renee @gro <% 40. com> ups.com, Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet@ ...> wrote: > > I have met this problem a few times, and then just miss out. Lily and I could only eat the fries, and I am losing weight, there is no way I want to sabotage it! Plus, most of them know we are veggies, and it hurts me that they are not thinking when they ask. It is nice to be included, but a picnic would be better suggestions. > > Jacqueline Bodnar <jb wrote: Heather wrote: " They've never set foot in a McDonalds (which some people > view as > deprivation! ). " > > Same here! I can't tell you how many times I join play groups for my > kids and they want to hold the play date at McDonad's! I tell them that > I will not go there. I don't want my child ever associating that place > with having fun. > > Your lifestyle is pretty much our lifestyle, so although you don't have > people living like you next door, we are out there! :-) > > Jacqueline > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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