Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Hi all, Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches right now! Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! Lorraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 Go to the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep database. http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php?nothanks=1 They list thousands of cosmetics and toiletries, and give them a score based on their ingredients and how toxic they are. They also note whether they are tested on animals. It is an indispensable tool for my family. When I first found out about it I looked up all the products our family was currently using, and I now use it to help me find good choices whenever I need something new. They have a great sunscreen section, so many sunscreens are full of nasty stuff -- including ones marketed for children! Words like " natural " and " organic " are not regulated outside the food industry so they can mean very little or nothing when they're put on labels of personal care products. Heather Lorraine wrote: > > Hi all, > Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees > products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time > finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily > vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- > but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- > and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no > " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone > found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby > shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ > ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches > right now! > Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! > Lorraine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 We loved the California Baby products. Sometimes they are on sale at mothernature.com. Lorraine <ldemi wrote: Hi all, Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches right now! Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! Lorraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 I love Jason's Organics for the whole family. We use their baby sunscreen - here is a link to their site and the baby products - http://www.jason-natural.com/products/earths_best.php - we get their products at the natural food store. As far as sensitve skin and lotion - for DS we use straight coconut oil. I have been using that a s diaper rash cream and it usually resolves in about a day. We also cloth diaper and there is no residue left on the diapers. I also used that when he had excema outbreaks, and while it didn't cure the excema, it certainly relived it quickly. DH says I talk about coconut oil like the greek dad in My Big Fat Greek Wedding did about Windex. If you use coconut oil, make sure you get the unrefined virgin stuff - you can get it at any natural food store. ~Susan On Apr 18, 2008, at 3:49 PM, Lorraine wrote: > Hi all, > Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees > products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time > finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not > necessarily > vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- > but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- > and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no > " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone > found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby > shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts > ResQ > ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches > right now! > Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! > Lorraine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hi Heather, Thanks much! I do have EWG bookmarked here and am referring to it . . . but don't have nearly the time I should put into learning all I need to learn about the ingredients. I just told someone it's like when I stopped eating meat and had to figure out, oh, gelatin is an animal product, and it's in this and this and this, even though you never would have thought of it - and rennet is an animal product, and wow, we eat this every day, yuck. Except now I'm learning oh, coconut is processed with this chemical that doesn't have to be listed in ingredients, and organic means this and not this, etc. :-) I have learned that " organic " in and of itself means very little, but " certified organic " undergoes scrutiny by the certification organization, like certified organic food does. That known, it is shocking how few personal products are 100% certified organic. I'm trying not to start ordering from one of these expensive companies that are certified 100%, hoping I can get equivalent stuff in stores or from our Frontier co-op . . . and not have to pay those boutique MLM prices. But, phew, this is not an easy task. Thanks for your help!! Lorraine On Behalf Of Heather Hossfeld Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:42 AM Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? Go to the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep database. http://www.cosmetic <http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php?nothanks=1> sdatabase.com/index.php?nothanks=1 They list thousands of cosmetics and toiletries, and give them a score based on their ingredients and how toxic they are. They also note whether they are tested on animals. It is an indispensable tool for my family. When I first found out about it I looked up all the products our family was currently using, and I now use it to help me find good choices whenever I need something new. They have a great sunscreen section, so many sunscreens are full of nasty stuff -- including ones marketed for children! Words like " natural " and " organic " are not regulated outside the food industry so they can mean very little or nothing when they're put on labels of personal care products. Heather Lorraine wrote: > > Hi all, > Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees > products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time > finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily > vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- > but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- > and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no > " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone > found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby > shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ > ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches > right now! > Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! > Lorraine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hi Robin, You're the second person today to tell me how great those are. I will look into them more - I think what made me stop researching them before is that their ingredients list has an * to denote " organic or sustainably grown " - and I'm not sure which ingredients are which, or how much of the ingredients are organic, etc. I'm going to look at it more carefully, though, since I'm hearing good things about them! Thanks much!! Lorraine On Behalf Of robin koloms Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:43 AM Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? We loved the California Baby products. Sometimes they are on sale at mothernature.com. Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > wrote: Hi all, Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches right now! Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! Lorraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 First I would say, most of the things you listed in your original post are not needed (baby shampoo for instance...my eight year old had his hair shampooed twice in his life, my four year old has never and my seven month has never...I'm guessing at some time they may need it, but when they are young, they do not...they do take showers and baths quite a lot because they love to, but never have needed shampoo). People always comment on their beautiful hair, well my seventh month old doesn't have much of it yet, but what she does have is soft and silky. :-) I sell (see link below) all of the products I have found to work for my family and friends which are all vegan, of course, and fairly made with the environmental factors taken into account. You can also make your own products pretty easily or use things you have around the house (olive oil for cradle cap for example). Some of the soaps I sell are made by a friend who lives a couple blocks from me. I see her making the soaps, detergents, have shopped with her for ingredients. It is not tough, just takes a little time. You might be able to find someone locally who makes some of the products you are looking for (if you have a farmer's market or local coop those are good places to check), you can find instructions online to make them yourself, or you can buy them online. Baby products: http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=5_68 Bath/Body Care: http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=27 Oh, and if you are lactating, breastmilk is great for almost anything. I've had friends who express breastmilk for cuts, eye infections, diaper rash, etc. Free and natural! Good luck finding what works best for you! Linda http://triballife.net/ A Marketplace for a Better Worldhttp://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/ http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/ Lorraine <ldemi Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:22:05 AM RE: Burt's Bees alternatives? Hi Heather, Thanks much! I do have EWG bookmarked here and am referring to it . . . but don't have nearly the time I should put into learning all I need to learn about the ingredients. I just told someone it's like when I stopped eating meat and had to figure out, oh, gelatin is an animal product, and it's in this and this and this, even though you never would have thought of it - and rennet is an animal product, and wow, we eat this every day, yuck. Except now I'm learning oh, coconut is processed with this chemical that doesn't have to be listed in ingredients, and organic means this and not this, etc. :-) I have learned that " organic " in and of itself means very little, but " certified organic " undergoes scrutiny by the certification organization, like certified organic food does. That known, it is shocking how few personal products are 100% certified organic. I'm trying not to start ordering from one of these expensive companies that are certified 100%, hoping I can get equivalent stuff in stores or from our Frontier co-op . . . and not have to pay those boutique MLM prices. But, phew, this is not an easy task. Thanks for your help!! Lorraine @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Heather Hossfeld Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:42 AM @gro ups.com Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? Go to the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep database. http://www.cosmetic <http://www.cosmetic sdatabase. com/index. php?nothanks= 1> sdatabase.com/ index.php? nothanks= 1 They list thousands of cosmetics and toiletries, and give them a score based on their ingredients and how toxic they are. They also note whether they are tested on animals. It is an indispensable tool for my family. When I first found out about it I looked up all the products our family was currently using, and I now use it to help me find good choices whenever I need something new. They have a great sunscreen section, so many sunscreens are full of nasty stuff -- including ones marketed for children! Words like " natural " and " organic " are not regulated outside the food industry so they can mean very little or nothing when they're put on labels of personal care products. Heather Lorraine wrote: > > Hi all, > Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees > products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time > finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily > vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- > but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- > and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no > " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone > found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby > shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ > ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches > right now! > Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! > Lorraine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Hi Linda, Thanks much for all this info! I'll check out the link and will do more research locally. The only local products I know of, that I hear rave reviews of, has emu oil in them . . . so no go. And yeah, I know some people don't use these products . . . but I'm not sure we are the folks who can go without shampoo - long, thick, curly hair, and a boy who sweats a lot when he plays outside, then the sweat mixes with dirt, and voila - sweaty, mud head. :-) I can go 2 days tops without washing his hair, but while we're still co-sleeping, and his little head is under my nose - I need another aroma. :-) I'll definitely look into your other suggestions some more! Thanks much and have a great day! Lorraine On Behalf Of Linda Evans Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:09 AM Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? First I would say, most of the things you listed in your original post are not needed (baby shampoo for instance...my eight year old had his hair shampooed twice in his life, my four year old has never and my seven month has never...I'm guessing at some time they may need it, but when they are young, they do not...they do take showers and baths quite a lot because they love to, but never have needed shampoo). People always comment on their beautiful hair, well my seventh month old doesn't have much of it yet, but what she does have is soft and silky. :-) I sell (see link below) all of the products I have found to work for my family and friends which are all vegan, of course, and fairly made with the environmental factors taken into account. You can also make your own products pretty easily or use things you have around the house (olive oil for cradle cap for example). Some of the soaps I sell are made by a friend who lives a couple blocks from me. I see her making the soaps, detergents, have shopped with her for ingredients. It is not tough, just takes a little time. You might be able to find someone locally who makes some of the products you are looking for (if you have a farmer's market or local coop those are good places to check), you can find instructions online to make them yourself, or you can buy them online. Baby products: http://www.triballi <http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=5_68> fe.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=5_68 Bath/Body Care: http://www.triballi <http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=27> fe.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=27 Oh, and if you are lactating, breastmilk is great for almost anything. I've had friends who express breastmilk for cuts, eye infections, diaper rash, etc. Free and natural! Good luck finding what works best for you! Linda http://triballife. <http://triballife.net/> net/ A Marketplace for a Better Worldhttp:// <Worldhttp://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/> triballifeinc.blogspot.com/ http://veganlinda. <http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/> blogspot.com/ Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > @gro <%40> ups.com Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:22:05 AM RE: Burt's Bees alternatives? Hi Heather, Thanks much! I do have EWG bookmarked here and am referring to it . . . but don't have nearly the time I should put into learning all I need to learn about the ingredients. I just told someone it's like when I stopped eating meat and had to figure out, oh, gelatin is an animal product, and it's in this and this and this, even though you never would have thought of it - and rennet is an animal product, and wow, we eat this every day, yuck. Except now I'm learning oh, coconut is processed with this chemical that doesn't have to be listed in ingredients, and organic means this and not this, etc. :-) I have learned that " organic " in and of itself means very little, but " certified organic " undergoes scrutiny by the certification organization, like certified organic food does. That known, it is shocking how few personal products are 100% certified organic. I'm trying not to start ordering from one of these expensive companies that are certified 100%, hoping I can get equivalent stuff in stores or from our Frontier co-op . . . and not have to pay those boutique MLM prices. But, phew, this is not an easy task. Thanks for your help!! Lorraine @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of Heather Hossfeld Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:42 AM @gro ups.com Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? Go to the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep database. http://www.cosmetic <http://www.cosmetic sdatabase. com/index. php?nothanks= 1> sdatabase.com/ index.php? nothanks= 1 They list thousands of cosmetics and toiletries, and give them a score based on their ingredients and how toxic they are. They also note whether they are tested on animals. It is an indispensable tool for my family. When I first found out about it I looked up all the products our family was currently using, and I now use it to help me find good choices whenever I need something new. They have a great sunscreen section, so many sunscreens are full of nasty stuff -- including ones marketed for children! Words like " natural " and " organic " are not regulated outside the food industry so they can mean very little or nothing when they're put on labels of personal care products. Heather Lorraine wrote: > > Hi all, > Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees > products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time > finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily > vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- > but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- > and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no > " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone > found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby > shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ > ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches > right now! > Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! > Lorraine > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 We like Weleda baby products, California Baby, and Earth Mama Angel Baby. Liz Lorraine <ldemi Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:24:52 AM RE: Burt's Bees alternatives? Hi Robin, You're the second person today to tell me how great those are. I will look into them more - I think what made me stop researching them before is that their ingredients list has an * to denote " organic or sustainably grown " - and I'm not sure which ingredients are which, or how much of the ingredients are organic, etc. I'm going to look at it more carefully, though, since I'm hearing good things about them! Thanks much!! Lorraine @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of robin koloms Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:43 AM @gro ups.com Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? We loved the California Baby products. Sometimes they are on sale at mothernature. com. Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi% 40ucsd.edu> > wrote: Hi all, Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches right now! Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! Lorraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi Liz, Thanks so much for these suggestions! We'll check them out! Have a great day, Lorraine On Behalf Of Liz Vergnault Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:05 PM Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? We like Weleda baby products, California Baby, and Earth Mama Angel Baby. Liz Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > @gro <%40> ups.com Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:24:52 AM RE: Burt's Bees alternatives? Hi Robin, You're the second person today to tell me how great those are. I will look into them more - I think what made me stop researching them before is that their ingredients list has an * to denote " organic or sustainably grown " - and I'm not sure which ingredients are which, or how much of the ingredients are organic, etc. I'm going to look at it more carefully, though, since I'm hearing good things about them! Thanks much!! Lorraine @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] On Behalf Of robin koloms Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:43 AM @gro ups.com Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? We loved the California Baby products. Sometimes they are on sale at mothernature. com. Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> <ldemi% 40ucsd.edu> > wrote: Hi all, Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches right now! Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! Lorraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Oh thanks for posting the link to this website, (cosmetics database) I couldn't rememebr what it was and was trying to figure it out!! , Heather Hossfeld <hlh4850 wrote: > > Go to the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep database. > > http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/index.php?nothanks=1 > > They list thousands of cosmetics and toiletries, and give them a score > based on their ingredients and how toxic they are. They also note > whether they are tested on animals. It is an indispensable tool for my > family. When I first found out about it I looked up all the products our > family was currently using, and I now use it to help me find good > choices whenever I need something new. They have a great sunscreen > section, so many sunscreens are full of nasty stuff -- including ones > marketed for children! Words like " natural " and " organic " are not > regulated outside the food industry so they can mean very little or > nothing when they're put on labels of personal care products. > Heather > > Lorraine wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees > > products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time > > finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not necessarily > > vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- > > but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- > > and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no > > " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone > > found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby > > shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts ResQ > > ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches > > right now! > > Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! > > Lorraine > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Most natural bodycare products will actually say that they are made without animal products. (look for the bunny). Some even have the vegan logo. (Aubrey Organics marks all of their if it is vegan.) The Merry Hempsters make a great Vegan Hemp Balm (lip balm). If you want make-up... look at Zuzu/Gabriel. If you want an all-purpose soap, get Dr. Bronner's castile soap. There are all scents, even baby soap. YOu can use it for hands, body, face, hair, etc. Great stuff. There's a ton of stuff out there that works really well. , " Lorraine " <ldemi wrote: > > Hi Linda, > Thanks much for all this info! I'll check out the link and will do more > research locally. The only local products I know of, that I hear rave > reviews of, has emu oil in them . . . so no go. And yeah, I know some > people don't use these products . . . but I'm not sure we are the folks > who can go without shampoo - long, thick, curly hair, and a boy who > sweats a lot when he plays outside, then the sweat mixes with dirt, and > voila - sweaty, mud head. :-) I can go 2 days tops without washing his > hair, but while we're still co-sleeping, and his little head is under my > nose - I need another aroma. :-) I'll definitely look into your other > suggestions some more! > Thanks much and have a great day! > Lorraine > > > On > Behalf Of Linda Evans > Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:09 AM > > Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? > > First I would say, most of the things you listed in your original post > are not needed (baby shampoo for instance...my eight year old had his > hair shampooed twice in his life, my four year old has never and my > seven month has never...I'm guessing at some time they may need it, but > when they are young, they do not...they do take showers and baths quite > a lot because they love to, but never have needed shampoo). People > always comment on their beautiful hair, well my seventh month old > doesn't have much of it yet, but what she does have is soft and silky. > :-) > > I sell (see link below) all of the products I have found to work for my > family and friends which are all vegan, of course, and fairly made with > the environmental factors taken into account. You can also make your own > products pretty easily or use things you have around the house (olive > oil for cradle cap for example). Some of the soaps I sell are made by a > friend who lives a couple blocks from me. I see her making the soaps, > detergents, have shopped with her for ingredients. It is not tough, just > takes a little time. You might be able to find someone locally who makes > some of the products you are looking for (if you have a farmer's market > or local coop those are good places to check), you can find instructions > online to make them yourself, or you can buy them online. > > Baby products: > http://www.triballi > <http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php? main_page=index & cPath=5_68> > fe.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=5_68 > > Bath/Body Care: > http://www.triballi > <http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=27> > fe.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=27 > > Oh, and if you are lactating, breastmilk is great for almost anything. > I've had friends who express breastmilk for cuts, eye infections, diaper > rash, etc. Free and natural! > > Good luck finding what works best for you! > > Linda > http://triballife. <http://triballife.net/> net/ A Marketplace for a > Better Worldhttp:// <Worldhttp://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/> > triballifeinc.blogspot.com/ > http://veganlinda. <http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/> blogspot.com/ > > > Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > > @gro <%40> ups.com > Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:22:05 AM > RE: Burt's Bees alternatives? > > Hi Heather, > Thanks much! I do have EWG bookmarked here and am referring to it . . . > but don't have nearly the time I should put into learning all I need to > learn about the ingredients. I just told someone it's like when I > stopped eating meat and had to figure out, oh, gelatin is an animal > product, and it's in this and this and this, even though you never would > have thought of it - and rennet is an animal product, and wow, we eat > this every day, yuck. Except now I'm learning oh, coconut is processed > with this chemical that doesn't have to be listed in ingredients, and > organic means this and not this, etc. :-) > > I have learned that " organic " in and of itself means very little, but > " certified organic " undergoes scrutiny by the certification > organization, like certified organic food does. That known, it is > shocking how few personal products are 100% certified organic. I'm > trying not to start ordering from one of these expensive companies that > are certified 100%, hoping I can get equivalent stuff in stores or from > our Frontier co-op . . . and not have to pay those boutique MLM prices. > But, phew, this is not an easy task. > > Thanks for your help!! > Lorraine > > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] > On > Behalf Of Heather Hossfeld > Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:42 AM > @gro ups.com > Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? > > Go to the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep database. > > http://www.cosmetic > <http://www.cosmetic sdatabase. com/index. php?nothanks= 1> > sdatabase.com/ index.php? nothanks= 1 > > They list thousands of cosmetics and toiletries, and give them a score > based on their ingredients and how toxic they are. They also note > whether they are tested on animals. It is an indispensable tool for my > family. When I first found out about it I looked up all the products our > > family was currently using, and I now use it to help me find good > choices whenever I need something new. They have a great sunscreen > section, so many sunscreens are full of nasty stuff -- including ones > marketed for children! Words like " natural " and " organic " are not > regulated outside the food industry so they can mean very little or > nothing when they're put on labels of personal care products. > Heather > > Lorraine wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees > > products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time > > finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not > necessarily > > vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- > > but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- > > and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no > > " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone > > found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby > > shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts > ResQ > > ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches > > right now! > > Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! > > Lorraine > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Hi Dana, Thanks much! Yeah, that bunny is a staple in our house! :-) Have a great day, Lorraine On Behalf Of food4u1575 Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:03 AM Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? Most natural bodycare products will actually say that they are made without animal products. (look for the bunny). Some even have the vegan logo. (Aubrey Organics marks all of their if it is vegan.) The Merry Hempsters make a great Vegan Hemp Balm (lip balm). If you want make-up... look at Zuzu/Gabriel. If you want an all-purpose soap, get Dr. Bronner's castile soap. There are all scents, even baby soap. YOu can use it for hands, body, face, hair, etc. Great stuff. There's a ton of stuff out there that works really well. @gro <%40> ups.com, " Lorraine " <ldemi wrote: > > Hi Linda, > Thanks much for all this info! I'll check out the link and will do more > research locally. The only local products I know of, that I hear rave > reviews of, has emu oil in them . . . so no go. And yeah, I know some > people don't use these products . . . but I'm not sure we are the folks > who can go without shampoo - long, thick, curly hair, and a boy who > sweats a lot when he plays outside, then the sweat mixes with dirt, and > voila - sweaty, mud head. :-) I can go 2 days tops without washing his > hair, but while we're still co-sleeping, and his little head is under my > nose - I need another aroma. :-) I'll definitely look into your other > suggestions some more! > Thanks much and have a great day! > Lorraine > > > @gro <%40> ups.com [@gro <%40> ups.com] On > Behalf Of Linda Evans > Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:09 AM > @gro <%40> ups.com > Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? > > First I would say, most of the things you listed in your original post > are not needed (baby shampoo for instance...my eight year old had his > hair shampooed twice in his life, my four year old has never and my > seven month has never...I'm guessing at some time they may need it, but > when they are young, they do not...they do take showers and baths quite > a lot because they love to, but never have needed shampoo). People > always comment on their beautiful hair, well my seventh month old > doesn't have much of it yet, but what she does have is soft and silky. > :-) > > I sell (see link below) all of the products I have found to work for my > family and friends which are all vegan, of course, and fairly made with > the environmental factors taken into account. You can also make your own > products pretty easily or use things you have around the house (olive > oil for cradle cap for example). Some of the soaps I sell are made by a > friend who lives a couple blocks from me. I see her making the soaps, > detergents, have shopped with her for ingredients. It is not tough, just > takes a little time. You might be able to find someone locally who makes > some of the products you are looking for (if you have a farmer's market > or local coop those are good places to check), you can find instructions > online to make them yourself, or you can buy them online. > > Baby products: > http://www.triballi > <http://www.triballi <http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?> fe.net/store/index.php? main_page=index & cPath=5_68> > fe.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=5_68 > > Bath/Body Care: > http://www.triballi > <http://www.triballi <http://www.triballife.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=27> fe.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=27> > fe.net/store/index.php?main_page=index & cPath=27 > > Oh, and if you are lactating, breastmilk is great for almost anything. > I've had friends who express breastmilk for cuts, eye infections, diaper > rash, etc. Free and natural! > > Good luck finding what works best for you! > > Linda > http://triballife. <http://triballife. <http://triballife.net/> net/> net/ A Marketplace for a > Better Worldhttp:// <Worldhttp:// <Worldhttp://triballifeinc.blogspot.com/> triballifeinc.blogspot.com/> > triballifeinc.blogspot.com/ > http://veganlinda. <http://veganlinda. <http://veganlinda.blogspot.com/> blogspot.com/> blogspot.com/ > > > Lorraine <ldemi <ldemi%40ucsd.edu> > > @gro <%40> ups.com > Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:22:05 AM > RE: Burt's Bees alternatives? > > Hi Heather, > Thanks much! I do have EWG bookmarked here and am referring to it . . . > but don't have nearly the time I should put into learning all I need to > learn about the ingredients. I just told someone it's like when I > stopped eating meat and had to figure out, oh, gelatin is an animal > product, and it's in this and this and this, even though you never would > have thought of it - and rennet is an animal product, and wow, we eat > this every day, yuck. Except now I'm learning oh, coconut is processed > with this chemical that doesn't have to be listed in ingredients, and > organic means this and not this, etc. :-) > > I have learned that " organic " in and of itself means very little, but > " certified organic " undergoes scrutiny by the certification > organization, like certified organic food does. That known, it is > shocking how few personal products are 100% certified organic. I'm > trying not to start ordering from one of these expensive companies that > are certified 100%, hoping I can get equivalent stuff in stores or from > our Frontier co-op . . . and not have to pay those boutique MLM prices. > But, phew, this is not an easy task. > > Thanks for your help!! > Lorraine > > > @gro ups.com [@gro ups.com] > On > Behalf Of Heather Hossfeld > Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:42 AM > @gro ups.com > Re: Burt's Bees alternatives? > > Go to the Environmental Working Group's Skin Deep database. > > http://www.cosmetic > <http://www.cosmetic sdatabase. com/index. php?nothanks= 1> > sdatabase.com/ index.php? nothanks= 1 > > They list thousands of cosmetics and toiletries, and give them a score > based on their ingredients and how toxic they are. They also note > whether they are tested on animals. It is an indispensable tool for my > family. When I first found out about it I looked up all the products our > > family was currently using, and I now use it to help me find good > choices whenever I need something new. They have a great sunscreen > section, so many sunscreens are full of nasty stuff -- including ones > marketed for children! Words like " natural " and " organic " are not > regulated outside the food industry so they can mean very little or > nothing when they're put on labels of personal care products. > Heather > > Lorraine wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > Anyone else in the same spot we're in? We're phasing out Burt's Bees > > products due to the Clorox ownership now, but are having a hard time > > finding good replacements. We want vegetarian products (not > necessarily > > vegan -- honey and milk are okay with us) that perform the same way -- > > but added twist, we also want to replace them with organic products -- > > and we have to be mindful of our sensitive skins (so no sulfates, no > > " -eths " , no chemicals, etc.). So, with all these caveats, has anyone > > found good replacements for the baby lotion, baby creme, baby > > shampoo/bubble bath/baby wash, baby conditioner, and the Dr. Burts > ResQ > > ointment? I'm sure other folks are going through the same searches > > right now! > > Thanks for any info/product suggestions you've stumbled upon! > > Lorraine > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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