Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Always check your sources of the anti-soy information you find. Most of it is funded by WAPF (Weston A Price Foundation which is funded by cattle and dairy industry). Out of curiosity, where did this info come from? There is a lot of research out there about the benefits of soy but that does not get the publicity of the anti-soy information. We do not eat processed soy foods (tofu, meat analogs, etc) and only eat whole bean products like edamame and tempeh. There is a lot of research about the negative affects of any hydrolyzed plant protein (soy or otherwise). But I don't see why your toddler can't drink soy milk unless there is a history of allergies in the family. We switched to hemp milk and use a lot of hemp nuts for protein since we can get the protein, the healthy Omega 3/6 ratio and all the other wonderful benefits of hemp. Try not to worryabout your toddler not getting cow's milk - remember cow's milk is for baby cows:) ~Susan On Apr 22, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote: > HI everybody, > My family and I, just become a vegan one month ago. We have a > toddler of 19 month old, and now I am not giving him cow milk, just > soymilk. But recently I have red some articles about soy that > really concerned me. They say: Soy and soy products are high in > phyitic acid (phytates) – an anti-nutritive compound, which in > large amounts blocks the uptake of some essential elements such as > calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. The soybean has one of > the highest phytate levels of any grain or legume that has been > studied, and the phytates in soy are highly resistant to normal > phytate-reducing techniques, such as long, slow cooking.”(i) Phytic > acid decreases more readily the absorption of zinc that that of the > rest of the minerals. They do not recommend it for children, also, > they talk about other soy-disadvantages. > > If you guys can help me with some good information about this, I > would really appreciate it > > Hope to hear from you soon > > Rebeca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I got the information from articles based in “Tragedy and Hype” by Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig. Thanks for answering friends Rebeca Susan Williams <virgo.vegan wrote: Always check your sources of the anti-soy information you find. Most of it is funded by WAPF (Weston A Price Foundation which is funded by cattle and dairy industry). Out of curiosity, where did this info come from? There is a lot of research out there about the benefits of soy but that does not get the publicity of the anti-soy information. We do not eat processed soy foods (tofu, meat analogs, etc) and only eat whole bean products like edamame and tempeh. There is a lot of research about the negative affects of any hydrolyzed plant protein (soy or otherwise). But I don't see why your toddler can't drink soy milk unless there is a history of allergies in the family. We switched to hemp milk and use a lot of hemp nuts for protein since we can get the protein, the healthy Omega 3/6 ratio and all the other wonderful benefits of hemp. Try not to worryabout your toddler not getting cow's milk - remember cow's milk is for baby cows:) ~Susan On Apr 22, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote: > HI everybody, > My family and I, just become a vegan one month ago. We have a > toddler of 19 month old, and now I am not giving him cow milk, just > soymilk. But recently I have red some articles about soy that > really concerned me. They say: Soy and soy products are high in > phyitic acid (phytates) – an anti-nutritive compound, which in > large amounts blocks the uptake of some essential elements such as > calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. The soybean has one of > the highest phytate levels of any grain or legume that has been > studied, and the phytates in soy are highly resistant to normal > phytate-reducing techniques, such as long, slow cooking.”(i) Phytic > acid decreases more readily the absorption of zinc that that of the > rest of the minerals. They do not recommend it for children, also, > they talk about other soy-disadvantages. > > If you guys can help me with some good information about this, I > would really appreciate it > > Hope to hear from you soon > > Rebeca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Isn't Sally Fallon the current chief WAPer? Rebeca Llasaca <rllasaca wrote: I got the information from articles based in “Tragedy and Hype” by Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig. Thanks for answering friends Rebeca Susan Williams <virgo.vegan wrote: Always check your sources of the anti-soy information you find. Most of it is funded by WAPF (Weston A Price Foundation which is funded by cattle and dairy industry). Out of curiosity, where did this info come from? There is a lot of research out there about the benefits of soy but that does not get the publicity of the anti-soy information. We do not eat processed soy foods (tofu, meat analogs, etc) and only eat whole bean products like edamame and tempeh. There is a lot of research about the negative affects of any hydrolyzed plant protein (soy or otherwise). But I don't see why your toddler can't drink soy milk unless there is a history of allergies in the family. We switched to hemp milk and use a lot of hemp nuts for protein since we can get the protein, the healthy Omega 3/6 ratio and all the other wonderful benefits of hemp. Try not to worryabout your toddler not getting cow's milk - remember cow's milk is for baby cows:) ~Susan On Apr 22, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote: > HI everybody, > My family and I, just become a vegan one month ago. We have a > toddler of 19 month old, and now I am not giving him cow milk, just > soymilk. But recently I have red some articles about soy that > really concerned me. They say: Soy and soy products are high in > phyitic acid (phytates) – an anti-nutritive compound, which in > large amounts blocks the uptake of some essential elements such as > calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. The soybean has one of > the highest phytate levels of any grain or legume that has been > studied, and the phytates in soy are highly resistant to normal > phytate-reducing techniques, such as long, slow cooking.”(i) Phytic > acid decreases more readily the absorption of zinc that that of the > rest of the minerals. They do not recommend it for children, also, > they talk about other soy-disadvantages. > > If you guys can help me with some good information about this, I > would really appreciate it > > Hope to hear from you soon > > Rebeca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 yep, sally fallon is the head of the WAPF and with mary enig she wrote the famous " nourishing traditions. " chandelle On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Rebeca Llasaca <rllasaca wrote: > I got the information from articles based in " Tragedy and Hype " by Sally > Fallon and Mary G. Enig. > Thanks for answering friends > > Rebeca > > Susan Williams <virgo.vegan <virgo.vegan%40gmail.com>> wrote: > Always check your sources of the anti-soy information you find. Most > of it is funded by WAPF (Weston A Price Foundation which is funded by > cattle and dairy industry). Out of curiosity, where did this info > come from? There is a lot of research out there about the benefits > of soy but that does not get the publicity of the anti-soy > information. We do not eat processed soy foods (tofu, meat analogs, > etc) and only eat whole bean products like edamame and tempeh. There > is a lot of research about the negative affects of any hydrolyzed > plant protein (soy or otherwise). But I don't see why your toddler > can't drink soy milk unless there is a history of allergies in the > family. We switched to hemp milk and use a lot of hemp nuts for > protein since we can get the protein, the healthy Omega 3/6 ratio and > all the other wonderful benefits of hemp. Try not to worryabout your > toddler not getting cow's milk - remember cow's milk is for baby cows:) > > ~Susan > > On Apr 22, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote: > > > HI everybody, > > My family and I, just become a vegan one month ago. We have a > > toddler of 19 month old, and now I am not giving him cow milk, just > > soymilk. But recently I have red some articles about soy that > > really concerned me. They say: Soy and soy products are high in > > phyitic acid (phytates) – an anti-nutritive compound, which in > > large amounts blocks the uptake of some essential elements such as > > calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. The soybean has one of > > the highest phytate levels of any grain or legume that has been > > studied, and the phytates in soy are highly resistant to normal > > phytate-reducing techniques, such as long, slow cooking. " (i) Phytic > > acid decreases more readily the absorption of zinc that that of the > > rest of the minerals. They do not recommend it for children, also, > > they talk about other soy-disadvantages. > > > > If you guys can help me with some good information about this, I > > would really appreciate it > > > > Hope to hear from you soon > > > > Rebeca > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 <<I got the information from articles based in “Tragedy and Hype” by Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig.>> Rebeca: Yup, you've been had by the WAPFers! Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Sally Fallon and Mary Enig cofounded WAPF and both write a lot of articles for Weston A Price Foundation so it doesn't surprise me that they wrote something negative about soy. The Foundation believes that strict vegetarianism is detrimental to human health. They believe that humans must eat meat in order to gain all the nutrients we need - but they don't address all the diseases that the SAD diet leads to. They also strongly believe that soy in infant formula should be banned and advocate several home-made recipes for formula. One is whole milk, cream, cod liver oil, gelatin and a bunch of other oils; another is animal broth, beef liver, several oils and whey. They believe it impossible for a woman to get all the nutrients she needs while breastfeeding and advocate formula over BFing. ~Susan On Apr 23, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote: > I got the information from articles based in “Tragedy and Hype” by > Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig. > Thanks for answering friends > > Rebeca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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