children's multivitimin for toddlers

[Guest guest]

Is it OK to give my toddler of 19 months old multivitamins? Well my

pediatrician knows that we were vegetarians and now vegans, so she recommended

the multivitamins for mi son, well I just want to be sure if it is OK. Hey

Susan thanks for the information about hemp milk, can I give it to my toddler

too?

Rebeca

 

Susan Williams <virgo.vegan wrote: Always check your sources of the

anti-soy information you find. Most

of it is funded by WAPF (Weston A Price Foundation which is funded by

cattle and dairy industry). Out of curiosity, where did this info

come from? There is a lot of research out there about the benefits

of soy but that does not get the publicity of the anti-soy

information. We do not eat processed soy foods (tofu, meat analogs,

etc) and only eat whole bean products like edamame and tempeh. There

is a lot of research about the negative affects of any hydrolyzed

plant protein (soy or otherwise). But I don't see why your toddler

can't drink soy milk unless there is a history of allergies in the

family. We switched to hemp milk and use a lot of hemp nuts for

protein since we can get the protein, the healthy Omega 3/6 ratio and

all the other wonderful benefits of hemp. Try not to worryabout your

toddler not getting cow's milk - remember cow's milk is for baby cows:)

 

~Susan

 

 

On Apr 22, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote:

 

> HI everybody,

> My family and I, just become a vegan one month ago. We have a

> toddler of 19 month old, and now I am not giving him cow milk, just

> soymilk. But recently I have red some articles about soy that

> really concerned me. They say: Soy and soy products are high in

> phyitic acid (phytates) – an anti-nutritive compound, which in

> large amounts blocks the uptake of some essential elements such as

> calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. The soybean has one of

> the highest phytate levels of any grain or legume that has been

> studied, and the phytates in soy are highly resistant to normal

> phytate-reducing techniques, such as long, slow cooking.”(i) Phytic

> acid decreases more readily the absorption of zinc that that of the

> rest of the minerals. They do not recommend it for children, also,

> they talk about other soy-disadvantages.

>

> If you guys can help me with some good information about this, I

> would really appreciate it

>

> Hope to hear from you soon

>

> Rebeca

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Rebeca,

You are welcome for the information. This is a great group of

parents that are very informed and always have great information.

 

We don't give our son any multi vitamins because he is on a whole

foods diet and still breastfeeding. Even once he stops BFing, I

doubt he will go on a multivitamin - I can't see what he would be

missing in his diet that a vitamin can give him. Make sure he gets

plenty of superfoods (walnuts, kale, blueberries, flax, etc) and if

you have to put them in a smoothie. My 13 mos drinks a leaf of kale

a day in a smoothie. Yesterday, while I was tearing up the kale to

put in the blender, he reached out and grabbed a chunk and just

starting chewing on it LOL.

 

As far as the hemp milk, my 13 mos old has been drinking it since he

was 11 mos. DH does not like soy milk, so I thought let's try this.

DS loves it - sometimes will pass up any other food for it. DH and I

are still trying to get used to the taste - it is a strong earth

nutty flavor unlike anything else, but it is really starting to grow

on me now.

 

~Susan

 

 

On Apr 23, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote:

 

> s it OK to give my toddler of 19 months old multivitamins? Well my

> pediatrician knows that we were vegetarians and now vegans, so she

> recommended the multivitamins for mi son, well I just want to be

> sure if it is OK. Hey Susan thanks for the information about hemp

> milk, can I give it to my toddler too?

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Our doctor said that as long as our son was eating a variety of foods than

not to worry about it. We did worry about it anyway (I think it just comes

with the job of being a parent. heh). We give our son a vegan chewable multi

vitamin (Animal Parade) but we never have given him one every single day, we

do it once every other day, and we also give a sublingual B12 that he just

loves (it's sort of cherry flavored, and it's also vegan, I'm thinking a

vitamin shop would have it, as we got it at Wild Oats, but they're now

totally switched over to WHole Foods sigh.).

 

If you think it necessary, then it probably won't hurt. Just be mindful of

the dosage, as iron poisoning from vitamins is possible, unless it's made

for that age group. Like I said, we did half a dose of a chewable, every

other day, if even that often (more because we only gave them if he was not

having a very 'hungry' kind of day. We still have been told we don't have to

since he does eat rather well, and loves a variety of foods, but now it was

our choice if we wanted to. I just tend to worry on the B12 since it is

harder to get in a vegan diet, so we do supplement with that regularly

(every other day). The vitamins, maybe we do them a couple times a week, but

mostly because I forget, my son asks for the B12 every day, so it's easier

to remember LOL).

 

Missie

 

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Rebeca Llasaca <rllasaca wrote:

 

>

> Is it OK to give my toddler of 19 months old multivitamins? Well my

> pediatrician knows that we were vegetarians and now vegans, so she

> recommended the multivitamins for mi son, well I just want to be sure if it

> is OK. Hey Susan thanks for the information about hemp milk, can I give it

> to my toddler too?

> Rebeca

>

> Susan Williams <virgo.vegan <virgo.vegan%40gmail.com>> wrote:

> Always check your sources of the anti-soy information you find. Most

> of it is funded by WAPF (Weston A Price Foundation which is funded by

> cattle and dairy industry). Out of curiosity, where did this info

> come from? There is a lot of research out there about the benefits

> of soy but that does not get the publicity of the anti-soy

> information. We do not eat processed soy foods (tofu, meat analogs,

> etc) and only eat whole bean products like edamame and tempeh. There

> is a lot of research about the negative affects of any hydrolyzed

> plant protein (soy or otherwise). But I don't see why your toddler

> can't drink soy milk unless there is a history of allergies in the

> family. We switched to hemp milk and use a lot of hemp nuts for

> protein since we can get the protein, the healthy Omega 3/6 ratio and

> all the other wonderful benefits of hemp. Try not to worryabout your

> toddler not getting cow's milk - remember cow's milk is for baby cows:)

>

> ~Susan

>

> On Apr 22, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote:

>

> > HI everybody,

> > My family and I, just become a vegan one month ago. We have a

> > toddler of 19 month old, and now I am not giving him cow milk, just

> > soymilk. But recently I have red some articles about soy that

> > really concerned me. They say: Soy and soy products are high in

> > phyitic acid (phytates) – an anti-nutritive compound, which in

> > large amounts blocks the uptake of some essential elements such as

> > calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. The soybean has one of

> > the highest phytate levels of any grain or legume that has been

> > studied, and the phytates in soy are highly resistant to normal

> > phytate-reducing techniques, such as long, slow cooking. " (i) Phytic

> > acid decreases more readily the absorption of zinc that that of the

> > rest of the minerals. They do not recommend it for children, also,

> > they talk about other soy-disadvantages.

> >

> > If you guys can help me with some good information about this, I

> > would really appreciate it

> >

> > Hope to hear from you soon

> >

> > Rebeca

>

>

[Guest guest]

" and if you have to put them in a smoothie. "

How do you then get the child to drink the smoothie? My daughter will usually

eat the healthy stuff, but I haven't been able to get the flax into her, and I

remembered a smoothie. Well, she could eat blueberries all day every day, and

bananas, too. I used the soy milk, flax seeds, blueberries, and bananas. She

screams no matter what cup I put it in. I even added a straw and she just

pushes it away I as hoping to start ith this and then start adding the

greens, just to be sure she was getting them...

Cassie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

DS prefers to drink things that to eat so I don't have the problem of

getting him to drink a smoothie. Does she like cold treats? Maybe

if you made it into a frozen treat instead and gave her a spoon to

eat it?

 

~Susan

 

 

On Apr 23, 2008, at 8:37 PM, Cassie Dixon wrote:

 

> " and if you have to put them in a smoothie. "

> How do you then get the child to drink the smoothie? My daughter

> will usually eat the healthy stuff, but I haven't been able to get

> the flax into her, and I remembered a smoothie. Well, she could eat

> blueberries all day every day, and bananas, too. I used the soy

> milk, flax seeds, blueberries, and bananas. She screams no matter

> what cup I put it in. I even added a straw and she just pushes it

> away I as hoping to start ith this and then start adding the

> greens, just to be sure she was getting them...

> Cassie

>

>

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[Guest guest]

That is a good idea. She loves applesauce, maybe I will add a few spoonfulls

each time.

Thanks,

Cassie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

On the same topic, what would be a good multivitamin that i can give my toddler?

I have a 3 year old boy and wondering if i need to buy the one with or without

iron.

 

 

 

Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet

 

Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:37:11 PM

Re: children's multivitimin for toddlers

 

" and if you have to put them in a smoothie. "

How do you then get the child to drink the smoothie? My daughter will usually

eat the healthy stuff, but I haven't been able to get the flax into her, and I

remembered a smoothie. Well, she could eat blueberries all day every day, and

bananas, too. I used the soy milk, flax seeds, blueberries, and bananas. She

screams no matter what cup I put it in. I even added a straw and she just pushes

it away I as hoping to start ith this and then start adding the greens, just

to be sure she was getting them...

Cassie

 

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[Guest guest]

Susan, where do you find hemp milk, I don't think I have ever seen

it?

 

, Susan Williams <virgo.vegan

wrote:

>

> Rebeca,

> You are welcome for the information. This is a great group of

> parents that are very informed and always have great information.

>

> We don't give our son any multi vitamins because he is on a whole

> foods diet and still breastfeeding. Even once he stops BFing, I

> doubt he will go on a multivitamin - I can't see what he would be

> missing in his diet that a vitamin can give him. Make sure he

gets

> plenty of superfoods (walnuts, kale, blueberries, flax, etc) and

if

> you have to put them in a smoothie. My 13 mos drinks a leaf of

kale

> a day in a smoothie. Yesterday, while I was tearing up the kale

to

> put in the blender, he reached out and grabbed a chunk and just

> starting chewing on it LOL.

>

> As far as the hemp milk, my 13 mos old has been drinking it since

he

> was 11 mos. DH does not like soy milk, so I thought let's try

this.

> DS loves it - sometimes will pass up any other food for it. DH

and I

> are still trying to get used to the taste - it is a strong earth

> nutty flavor unlike anything else, but it is really starting to

grow

> on me now.

>

> ~Susan

>

>

> On Apr 23, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Rebeca Llasaca wrote:

>

> > s it OK to give my toddler of 19 months old multivitamins? Well

my

> > pediatrician knows that we were vegetarians and now vegans, so

she

> > recommended the multivitamins for mi son, well I just want to

be

> > sure if it is OK. Hey Susan thanks for the information about

hemp

> > milk, can I give it to my toddler too?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It really depends on what his diet is like now. If he is on a whole

foods diet, then he really doesn't need a vitamin at all. Vitamins

and minerals are much better absorbed by the body when they are part

of whole foods. Our family went on a completely whole foods diet and

none of us has taken a vitamin since, and all our blood tests are fine.

 

~Susan

 

 

On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:10 AM, lakshmi rao wrote:

 

> On the same topic, what would be a good multivitamin that i can

> give my toddler? I have a 3 year old boy and wondering if i need to

> buy the one with or without iron.

>

>

> Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet

>

> Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:37:11 PM

> Re: children's multivitimin for toddlers

>

> " and if you have to put them in a smoothie. "

> How do you then get the child to drink the smoothie? My daughter

> will usually eat the healthy stuff, but I haven't been able to get

> the flax into her, and I remembered a smoothie. Well, she could eat

> blueberries all day every day, and bananas, too. I used the soy

> milk, flax seeds, blueberries, and bananas. She screams no matter

> what cup I put it in. I even added a straw and she just pushes it

> away I as hoping to start ith this and then start adding the

> greens, just to be sure she was getting them...

> Cassie

>

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>

[Guest guest]

He is a good eater. But, there are times when he is more interested in playing

in his daycare then eating. So, he goes through phases when he finishes all that

i give him and a week of not wanting to eat much which is when i have noticed he

sleeps longer. I assume that's because he is deficient of something and hence a

need for multivitamin. So, any recommendations? I have whole foods/sun

harvest/central market all in this area.

 

 

 

Susan Williams <virgo.vegan

 

Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:04:24 AM

Re: children's multivitimin for toddlers

 

It really depends on what his diet is like now. If he is on a whole

foods diet, then he really doesn't need a vitamin at all. Vitamins

and minerals are much better absorbed by the body when they are part

of whole foods. Our family went on a completely whole foods diet and

none of us has taken a vitamin since, and all our blood tests are fine.

 

~Susan

 

On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:10 AM, lakshmi rao wrote:

 

> On the same topic, what would be a good multivitamin that i can

> give my toddler? I have a 3 year old boy and wondering if i need to

> buy the one with or without iron.

>

>

> Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet@ >

> @gro ups.com

> Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:37:11 PM

> Re: children' s multivitimin for toddlers

>

> " and if you have to put them in a smoothie. "

> How do you then get the child to drink the smoothie? My daughter

> will usually eat the healthy stuff, but I haven't been able to get

> the flax into her, and I remembered a smoothie. Well, she could eat

> blueberries all day every day, and bananas, too. I used the soy

> milk, flax seeds, blueberries, and bananas. She screams no matter

> what cup I put it in. I even added a straw and she just pushes it

> away I as hoping to start ith this and then start adding the

> greens, just to be sure she was getting them...

> Cassie

>

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[Guest guest]

It is in most Whole Foods stores with the Rice Milk, Soy Milk, etc,

and even some of our local natural food stores are starting to carry

it. If you cannot find it, you can make your own very easily.

Hemp Milk

 

Ingredients:

 

1/4 cup shelled hempseeds

1 cup water

flavorings (vanilla, maple syrup or honey) - OPTIONAL

 

Directions:

 

Place seeds into a blender and add small amount of water 1 inch above

the seeds. Turn blender on at multiple speeds and agitate seeds so

they become a thick hemp cream.

 

Then add either vanilla, maple syrup or honey. This is hemp cream

which is great as a base for smoothies or " Nice " Cream. Or take the

cream and add water at a ratio of 4.75 water to 1 part seed for a

hemp milk.

 

~Susan

 

 

On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:19 AM, mylameoww wrote:

 

> Susan, where do you find hemp milk, I don't think I have ever seen

> it?

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

With my daughter, sleeping and eating patterns seem to be tied to growth spurts.

 

lakshmi rao <laks_class12 wrote: He is a good eater. But,

there are times when he is more interested in playing in his daycare then

eating. So, he goes through phases when he finishes all that i give him and a

week of not wanting to eat much which is when i have noticed he sleeps longer. I

assume that's because he is deficient of something and hence a need for

multivitamin. So, any recommendations? I have whole foods/sun harvest/central

market all in this area.

 

 

Susan Williams <virgo.vegan

 

Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:04:24 AM

Re: children's multivitimin for toddlers

 

It really depends on what his diet is like now. If he is on a whole

foods diet, then he really doesn't need a vitamin at all. Vitamins

and minerals are much better absorbed by the body when they are part

of whole foods. Our family went on a completely whole foods diet and

none of us has taken a vitamin since, and all our blood tests are fine.

 

~Susan

 

On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:10 AM, lakshmi rao wrote:

 

> On the same topic, what would be a good multivitamin that i can

> give my toddler? I have a 3 year old boy and wondering if i need to

> buy the one with or without iron.

>

>

> Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet@ >

> @gro ups.com

> Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:37:11 PM

> Re: children' s multivitimin for toddlers

>

> " and if you have to put them in a smoothie. "

> How do you then get the child to drink the smoothie? My daughter

> will usually eat the healthy stuff, but I haven't been able to get

> the flax into her, and I remembered a smoothie. Well, she could eat

> blueberries all day every day, and bananas, too. I used the soy

> milk, flax seeds, blueberries, and bananas. She screams no matter

> what cup I put it in. I even added a straw and she just pushes it

> away I as hoping to start ith this and then start adding the

> greens, just to be sure she was getting them...

> Cassie

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Before we started whole foods, I was going to start DS on this one:

http://drfuhrman.com/shop/supplements.aspx#Pixivites

 

Haven't used it myself, but seemed good because it wil dissolve in

water and I would think would be more digestible.

 

~Susan

 

 

On Apr 24, 2008, at 12:13 PM, lakshmi rao wrote:

 

> He is a good eater. But, there are times when he is more interested

> in playing in his daycare then eating. So, he goes through phases

> when he finishes all that i give him and a week of not wanting to

> eat much which is when i have noticed he sleeps longer. I assume

> that's because he is deficient of something and hence a need for

> multivitamin. So, any recommendations? I have whole foods/sun

> harvest/central market all in this area.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I think that's typical for little kids...my son goes through an eating phase

and then a barely eating phase (and sleeps more) when he's having a growth

spurt. He seems to ramp up the eating the week before, and the next hardly

eats and sleeps in (which feel rare) and then I swear he's taller, or he's a

bit clumsier and we measure him and he's grown half an inch since the last

time. We can also see it in his face when this is the case - gearing up for

a growth spurt his cheeks get fuller. LOL.

 

If you think it is more than just a growth spurt, the deficiency that I know

of that makes you sleepy is iron deficiency/anemia. You can usually remedy

this with whole foods (beans, greens, nuts/seeds) . Unless you think he

really does need a supplement, I'd run it past the doctor (if yours is good

to ask of these things). I go with my doc's advice in that if he's eating a

wide variety of foods, than he's probably fine, but we do give a multi every

other day to cover the bases (and for our peace of mind).

 

Missie

 

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:13 AM, lakshmi rao <laks_class12

wrote:

 

> He is a good eater. But, there are times when he is more interested in

> playing in his daycare then eating. So, he goes through phases when he

> finishes all that i give him and a week of not wanting to eat much which is

> when i have noticed he sleeps longer. I assume that's because he is

> deficient of something and hence a need for multivitamin. So, any

> recommendations? I have whole foods/sun harvest/central market all in this

> area.

>

>

>

> Susan Williams <virgo.vegan <virgo.vegan%40gmail.com>>

> <%40>

> Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:04:24 AM

> Re: children's multivitimin for toddlers

>

> It really depends on what his diet is like now. If he is on a whole

> foods diet, then he really doesn't need a vitamin at all. Vitamins

> and minerals are much better absorbed by the body when they are part

> of whole foods. Our family went on a completely whole foods diet and

> none of us has taken a vitamin since, and all our blood tests are fine.

>

> ~Susan

>

> On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:10 AM, lakshmi rao wrote:

>

> > On the same topic, what would be a good multivitamin that i can

> > give my toddler? I have a 3 year old boy and wondering if i need to

> > buy the one with or without iron.

> >

> >

> > Cassie Dixon <roxy87cabriolet@ >

> > @gro ups.com

> > Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:37:11 PM

> > Re: children' s multivitimin for toddlers

> >

> > " and if you have to put them in a smoothie. "

> > How do you then get the child to drink the smoothie? My daughter

> > will usually eat the healthy stuff, but I haven't been able to get

> > the flax into her, and I remembered a smoothie. Well, she could eat

> > blueberries all day every day, and bananas, too. I used the soy

> > milk, flax seeds, blueberries, and bananas. She screams no matter

> > what cup I put it in. I even added a straw and she just pushes it

> > away I as hoping to start ith this and then start adding the

> > greens, just to be sure she was getting them...

> > Cassie

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

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> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>But, there are times when he is more interested in playing in his daycare then

eating.

 

Children's bodies are marvelously attuned to their needs. Sometime they " need "

to play and learn, and play and learn some more and the seemingly small food

intake is still adequate for their biological needs.

 

>phases when he finishes all that i give him and a week of not wanting to eat

much which is when i have noticed he sleeps longer.

 

and then they need more/less calories and more/less rest because they are having

a growth or developmental spurt after all that activity and mental processing of

what they have learned.

 

Society teaches us not to listen to our bodies for hunger/sleep signals and

that's why so many adults are overweight and sleep deprived.

 

If taking vitamins make you feel reassured and as long as they are appropriate

doses for your son (too much of the fat soluble vitamins can accumulate and be

toxic) then the worst is that you will have wasted some money and he will just

have very expensive urine as he pees out all those excess water soluble vitamins

that he doesn't need.

 

Our family just takes B12 since I know we get plenty of vitamins/minerals from

our food and we get enough sun exposure to make all the Vitamin D that we need.

 

Vitamin deficiencies are very rare today in most populations- I'm sure even more

rare among such a health conscious crowd on this list.

 

Supplements can be great for those that need them but in general I think it's

just a bunch of hype. More of the fear mongering of corporations to get us to

believe how hard it is to care for ourselves without technology and spending

lots of $$.

 

D