Bible passage:Jill

[Guest guest]

Jill, I am SO glad you posted this link...because it clears things up

for me. I don't eat meat because of the inhumane treatment of

animals, which also leads to health issues secondly not to mention

the environment. Still, I don't feel it is necessarily a " sin " so to

speak to eat meat. Anyway, this helped validate my thinking.

 

 

, " ad00rable_1 " <nkiffer wrote:

>

> Great link...and what a great discussion! I've been looking into

the topic of Christianity and

> Vegetarianism quite a bit over the past year. I also belong to the

Christian Vegetarian

> Association ...great conversation there too...very

informative.

>

> The question that keeps recurring in my mind...so if we began as

vegetarians and it was

> " perfect " and we are to return to that, then why not just do that

now? I guess in thinking

> back to consuming flesh and using animals products I just didn't

think about it then. Once

> my eyes were opened to not using animals it was a total

enlightenment and I can't even

> fathom going back to the omni way of life. I guess maybe that is

where others are? Its just

> so " normal " to use animals in that way and they cannot imagine not

doing it? Any

> thoughts?

>

> BTW...I'm a fairly new veg, though looking at my life as a whole, I

know it was just a

> matter of time for me. I've been a vegetarian for almost a year

now, vegan for about half

> of that. I have a 2 1/2 yr old daughter whom I am raising vegan

and my husband has

> made leaps and bounds toward a veg life as well.

>

> , Jill Van Prooyen

<devonrexkitty@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I actually do believe that the Bible condones eating meat.

> > Here's a link that sums up my thoughts

> > http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=167

> > However, the Bible does not say we have to eat meat, nor does it

condone

> > cruelty. If

> > anyone says " God wants you to eat meat " , there is nothing

> > in the Bible making it a requirement.

> > I personally quit eating meat because animals are horribly

> > treated on factory farms, as well as the health implications

> > from meat overconsumption, and illnesses spread through

> > meat. The Bible doesn't touch on those issues, since factory

> > farms didn't exist when the Bible was written. Shepherds and

goatherds

> > weren't raising animals by the thousands, every animal was

important.

> > There is a parable about a shepherd leaving 99 sheep to find one

lost sheep (describing

> how God is searching everyone), which shepherds could relate to at

that time. They had an

> incentive to

> > treat their animals humanely.

> > There is a verse in Proverbs about wisdom in treating animals

kindly. I don't think

> > God condones the way animals are treated today.

> > If you have any more questions about scripture verses, I'm free to

> > chat more.

> > Hope this helps. I have heard many people say that the Bible

says " Thou

> > shalt not kill " , but Jesus (who was sinless) ate fish, fed people

fish, the Jews ate Lamb at

> Passover, and

> > God commanded animal sacrifices until Jesus was the ultimate

sacrifice for our sins.

> > Thou shalt not kill refers to humans killing each other (though

there is more scripture

> about wars, the death penalty, etc).

> > jillben2008 <jillben2008@> wrote: Hi

Everyone,

> >

> > Just looking for a little help. (I admit that I know very, very

little

> > about the bible.) I have a friend who likes to quote the bible

as a

> > reason for eating meat. While I can find answers to most of the

> > passages that she refers to, she recently sent me an email with

just

> > one line referring to

> > Deuteronomy 14:4.

> > I looked the passage up and see that it refers to Clean vs.

Unclean

> > animals and which ones people are allowed to eat.

> > Do any of you know the context of this passage?

> > I have found so many excellent websites that explain certain

passages,

> > but I really don't know about this one.

> >

> > I realize that it seems futile to try to argue points with

someone, but

> > we do it good naturedly. Sometimes she can be very annoying

though.

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for the responses! I think my friend gets pretty

annoyed by my responses...but she starts it! She also enjoys sending

me Republican propoganda.

 

I also don't believe that eating meat is technically a sin. However

it almost seems that many Christian meateaters feel they must eat

meat, as if the Bible is requiring it.

 

, " mylameoww " <mylameoww wrote:

>

> Jill, I am SO glad you posted this link...because it clears things

up

> for me. I don't eat meat because of the inhumane treatment of

> animals, which also leads to health issues secondly not to mention

> the environment. Still, I don't feel it is necessarily a " sin " so

to

> speak to eat meat. Anyway, this helped validate my thinking.

>

>

> , " ad00rable_1 " <nkiffer@> wrote:

> >

> > Great link...and what a great discussion! I've been looking into

> the topic of Christianity and

> > Vegetarianism quite a bit over the past year. I also belong to

the

> Christian Vegetarian

> > Association ...great conversation there too...very

> informative.

> >

> > The question that keeps recurring in my mind...so if we began as

> vegetarians and it was

> > " perfect " and we are to return to that, then why not just do that

> now? I guess in thinking

> > back to consuming flesh and using animals products I just didn't

> think about it then. Once

> > my eyes were opened to not using animals it was a total

> enlightenment and I can't even

> > fathom going back to the omni way of life. I guess maybe that is

> where others are? Its just

> > so " normal " to use animals in that way and they cannot imagine

not

> doing it? Any

> > thoughts?

> >

> > BTW...I'm a fairly new veg, though looking at my life as a whole,

I

> know it was just a

> > matter of time for me. I've been a vegetarian for almost a year

> now, vegan for about half

> > of that. I have a 2 1/2 yr old daughter whom I am raising vegan

> and my husband has

> > made leaps and bounds toward a veg life as well.

> >

> > , Jill Van Prooyen

> <devonrexkitty@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > I actually do believe that the Bible condones eating meat.

> > > Here's a link that sums up my thoughts

> > > http://www.bible.com/bibleanswers_result.php?id=167

> > > However, the Bible does not say we have to eat meat, nor does

it

> condone

> > > cruelty. If

> > > anyone says " God wants you to eat meat " , there is nothing

> > > in the Bible making it a requirement.

> > > I personally quit eating meat because animals are horribly

> > > treated on factory farms, as well as the health implications

> > > from meat overconsumption, and illnesses spread through

> > > meat. The Bible doesn't touch on those issues, since factory

> > > farms didn't exist when the Bible was written. Shepherds and

> goatherds

> > > weren't raising animals by the thousands, every animal was

> important.

> > > There is a parable about a shepherd leaving 99 sheep to find

one

> lost sheep (describing

> > how God is searching everyone), which shepherds could relate to

at

> that time. They had an

> > incentive to

> > > treat their animals humanely.

> > > There is a verse in Proverbs about wisdom in treating animals

> kindly. I don't think

> > > God condones the way animals are treated today.

> > > If you have any more questions about scripture verses, I'm free

to

> > > chat more.

> > > Hope this helps. I have heard many people say that the Bible

> says " Thou

> > > shalt not kill " , but Jesus (who was sinless) ate fish, fed

people

> fish, the Jews ate Lamb at

> > Passover, and

> > > God commanded animal sacrifices until Jesus was the ultimate

> sacrifice for our sins.

> > > Thou shalt not kill refers to humans killing each other (though

> there is more scripture

> > about wars, the death penalty, etc).

> > > jillben2008 <jillben2008@> wrote:

Hi

> Everyone,

> > >

> > > Just looking for a little help. (I admit that I know very,

very

> little

> > > about the bible.) I have a friend who likes to quote the

bible

> as a

> > > reason for eating meat. While I can find answers to most of

the

> > > passages that she refers to, she recently sent me an email

with

> just

> > > one line referring to

> > > Deuteronomy 14:4.

> > > I looked the passage up and see that it refers to Clean vs.

> Unclean

> > > animals and which ones people are allowed to eat.

> > > Do any of you know the context of this passage?

> > > I have found so many excellent websites that explain certain

> passages,

> > > but I really don't know about this one.

> > >

> > > I realize that it seems futile to try to argue points with

> someone, but

> > > we do it good naturedly. Sometimes she can be very annoying

> though.

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >